Former EVGA manager reveals how Nvidia's Founders Edition cards helped drive the company out of GPUs

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Winners & losers: EVGA's 2022 exit from Nvidia graphics cards remains one of the industry's most striking partner breakups, and this first-hand account shows how the relationship worked day to day. Hedrick describes a company squeezed by Nvidia's Founders Edition cards, pressure to keep a loss-making entry model and tight control over launch information, all in a business that made up 78% of EVGA's sales. It's only one side of the story, though. Nvidia's CEO and outside reports point to EVGA's own strategy and costs.

EVGA announced in 2022 that it would stop making Nvidia graphics cards, blaming the decision on what it described as an abusive relationship. Now, former EVGA Product Manager Brendon Ray Hedrick has shed more light on why that happened, including having to compete against Nvidia's own Founders Edition cards.

In a lengthy personal account, Hedrick, who worked at EVGA between 2016 and 2019, recalls the concern when Nvidia introduced its Pascal Founders Edition cards: the company supplying EVGA's chips was increasingly competing for the same customers.

According to Hedrick, EVGA needed a model at Nvidia's advertised starting price, even if it lost money. Failing to offer one could jeopardize GPU allocations, though he says identifying the reason for a reduction was difficult.

"We needed to keep a loss leader – a card we sold at a loss – to keep Nvidia happy and protect our access to the chips," he writes.

That left pricier custom cards to generate profits. But as Nvidia improved its designs and automatic clock management, Hedrick says spending more on EVGA's circuitry and cooling delivered increasingly modest gaming gains. The cheaper models, meanwhile, were frequently sold out.

There were also issues with launch preparations. Hedrick recalls learning GTX and RTX specifications at the same time as the public. "Nvidia was fiercely protective of its announcements, and I remember how angry it could become with partners over information that leaked before an official reveal," he said.

To catch the culprits, different colored dots were used on retailer images to trace leaks. "If an image leaked and Nvidia came back to us, we could identify which retailer had originally received that image set," Hedrick explains.

By September 2022, the financial squeeze had reached a tipping point. As reported when EVGA announced its departure, the company said it was losing hundreds of dollars on RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 cards following price cuts. It also complained about discovering final suggested prices at Nvidia's public announcements and having limited freedom to set its own.

At the time, CEO Andrew Han insisted the move was about principle rather than money, following unsuccessful attempts to renegotiate the partnership.

The decision meant abandoning a business that accounted for 78% of EVGA's sales. EVGA nevertheless ruled out making AMD or Intel cards, expanding into new product categories, or selling the company. It said existing graphics card owners would retain warranty support.

But there was another side to the story. An Igor's Lab report blamed some of EVGA's margin problems on outsourcing circuit boards and coolers. It estimated EVGA's margins at around 5%, against roughly 10% for competing manufacturers. Longer warranties and the Step-Up upgrade program also added costs.

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang had his own explanation for the split. He claimed EVGA boss Andrew Han had wanted to wind down the business for several years. Huang praised the partnership and suggested Han was ready to pursue something else.

"Andrew and EVGA are great partners, and were great partners, and I'm sad to see them leave the market," Huang said.

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EVGA seen the writing on the wall. After the whole New world incident killing 3090 ftws their might have been internal strife on who will fork the bill. This might have caused them to exit the gpu market imo. Now with the current shortages eta 2028 for successor/ potential paper launch again ( based on rumors), and burning cables of current gpu end users being denied RMA. Who will be next to go? 🤔
 
EVGA was horribly mismanaged. They drastically over ordered GTX 1000, RTX 2000, and RTX 3000 cards as their respective successors were prepping for release, resulting in huge financial losses from excess inventory. Despite the alleged razor thin margins or even losses on big cards, they continued to make as many as 7 SKUs of each card, each with a different cooler, firmware, PCB, components, ece ece.

Now does that make any sense to you?

Andrew Han was clearly ready to retire, but didn't want to give up control of his baby, tried to micromanage it into some new form he could maintain with less work, and drove it into the ground. You see this a lot with privately owned companies when the original owner is getting old and doesn't want to keep working.

So he picked a fight with Nvidia while banging on about " honor", dropped out of his primary market, didn't bother making AMD or Intel cards, and let his engineering team rot. The sound cards and motherboards that were going to be the company's future? All gone. All they have left are rebranded super flower power supplies. They're nothing more then a basic importer.

How sad.
 
EVGA was horribly mismanaged. They drastically over ordered GTX 1000, RTX 2000, and RTX 3000 cards as their respective successors were prepping for release, resulting in huge financial losses from excess inventory. Despite the alleged razor thin margins or even losses on big cards, they continued to make as many as 7 SKUs of each card, each with a different cooler, firmware, PCB, components, ece ece.

Now does that make any sense to you?

Andrew Han was clearly ready to retire, but didn't want to give up control of his baby, tried to micromanage it into some new form he could maintain with less work, and drove it into the ground. You see this a lot with privately owned companies when the original owner is getting old and doesn't want to keep working.

So he picked a fight with Nvidia while banging on about " honor", dropped out of his primary market, didn't bother making AMD or Intel cards, and let his engineering team rot. The sound cards and motherboards that were going to be the company's future? All gone. All they have left are rebranded super flower power supplies. They're nothing more then a basic importer.

How sad.
How could anyone order too many cards during two crypto currency crisis's?

What wrong with rebranding quality power supplies from a supplier? How is that any different than buying GPUs and turning them into video cards?

I just don't see enough supporting arguments to defend your opinion. There is plenty to support the arguments EVGA made against continuing to make video cards with NVIDIA and this article is one such source.
 
How could anyone order too many cards during two crypto currency crisis's?
GTX 1000s were not during this time. RTX 2000s were not selling at a premium, EVGA was running deep discounts to get rid of them. The 3000s, they came in as the market was cooling off and demand was building for the 4000s.
What wrong with rebranding quality power supplies from a supplier? How is that any different than buying GPUs and turning them into video cards?
Are you serious right now? Let's break down your question here, what IS the difference between rebranding a psu made by a third party company, and buying a GPU and DESIGNING THE PCB, COOLER AND FIRMWARE IN HOUSE AND MAKING THEM IN YOUR OWN FACTORY???

Really chew on that one for a bit.
I just don't see enough supporting arguments to defend your opinion. There is plenty to support the arguments EVGA made against continuing to make video cards with NVIDIA and this article is one such source.
This is completely out of touch with reality.

If margins on high end cards was so bad, to the point they were losing money, why keep making multiple skus with excess labor in the millions of dollars for R+D?

If high end cards have to be sold at a loss, why not just make the mass margin cards instead?

If Nvidia was so hard to work with, why not drop first tier partner status and make AMD cards alongside your Nvidia cards, like all your competitors? In what universe is making nothing more sensible?

EVGAs explanations make no sense, as the rest of the market still exists, while EVGA went from making their own PSUs, motherboards, sound cards, and building GPUs to selling rebranded PSUs having lost most of their employees and revenue.
 
I'm still baffled by EVGA's decision to not make GPUs for Intel and AMD. I would imagine EVGA would be favourably courted by either company due to their extensive and close relationship with nVidia.
 
I'm still baffled by EVGA's decision to not make GPUs for Intel and AMD. I would imagine EVGA would be favourably courted by either company due to their extensive and close relationship with nVidia.
Several Intel engineers were practically begging EVGA to make A series cards, as they needed a vendor to premiere with.
 
Having your supplier also become your competitor is already rough. Having that supplier establish the advertised MSRP you need to compete against while controlling how many chips you receive sounds brutal.
 
DOOOOM! GLOOOOOM!

If it's all over, why not delete your account and join the Amish?

Way more fun to sit here watching it burn, and watching everyone gnash their teeth fruitlessly at the inevitable end.

why make a low end or mid range gpu that is only worth 65$ for the die? when you can sell the same die space off the wafer for 65,000$

but dont worry, 9000$ cards will still exist.. your embedded gpu awaits you in 2028
 
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