Former intelligence official claims US has retrieved partially and fully intact craft...

[Just Some Dude]

You assume they traveled faster than light. Maybe they lived a long time or maybe they were in suspended animation or maybe their voyage was multi-generational or maybe not. Who knows.

If they were slower than light we would have "seen" them as light travels to us faster than they would. Slower than light would have meant many thousands of years travelling space; the pure maintenance of a spacecraft for that duration would be phenominal. If their biology is anything like a human (genetics being passed from one generation to another), then they would have had to have about 5,000 on-board to avoid breeding issues, death, disease, accidents, etc. - these are all issues humans face, for example "let's colonise mars" - okay, so we need to send fresh people all the time as they can't procreate too much (odd child is okay) as our genetics need at least 500 childless individuals to reduce disabilities, and 5,000 to be safe for repopulation.

 

[PurpleYoda]

Not surprising, when they got close enough to “eavesdrop “ they caught a malware and didn’t want to pay up..

 

[scavengerspc]

There are a lot of things the government lies about. Many of necessity.

"You can't handle the truth" rings true of the general population so often it isn't even funny anymore. Just look at some of the things that are just making people's head explode now.

We have earned being kept in the dark.

 

[mailpup]

If they were slower than light we would have "seen" them as light travels to us faster than they would. Slower than light would have meant many thousands of years travelling space; the pure maintenance of a spacecraft for that duration would be phenominal. If their biology is anything like a human (genetics being passed from one generation to another), then they would have had to have about 5,000 on-board to avoid breeding issues, death, disease, accidents, etc. - these are all issues humans face, for example "let's colonise mars" - okay, so we need to send fresh people all the time as they can't procreate too much (odd child is okay) as our genetics need at least 500 childless individuals to reduce disabilities, and 5,000 to be safe for repopulation.

I wouldn't assume they were necessarily like humans. Maybe they are but maybe they are not. They're aliens after all.

 

[maxxcool7421]

This is news everywhere right now, so no - it's not TS being conspiracy theorists.

''News'' lol ...

 

[colossusrage]

"Exotic origin" lol, sounds like he found a boat at a strip club.

 

[kira setsu]

Well if the news is pushing aliens...

then the good ol U.S. govt must be doing shifty s**t again and tossed a rock to snatch our attn away, wonder what rights theyre altering or taking away entirely?

dont crash here aliens, we have no health insurance and you'll be shot on sight, hammer the thrusters and crash somewhere free!

 

[RandomWAN]

Trust random internet guy to take the tinfoil hat nonsense to a whole new level. It's conspiracy within a conspiracy! Dun-dun-DUNNN!

Trust the guy who doesn't understand the concept of "bread and circuses" instead.

"The US government, its allies, and defense contractors have retrieved partially and fully intact exotic vehicles"

Come on, give me a break. Not just the US government, but its allies and defense contractors all knew about this and they *ALL* somehow managed to keep it a secret? They can't even keep basic stuff secret, but they kept THIS a secret? Please. Not only that, it's multiple "exotic" vehicles, both partially and fully intact. Yeah, right. If you believe any of this nonsense then you're nuttier than rat droppings in a Snickers factory.

Yes. It's funny the number of top secret programs that are kept under wraps with sworn oaths, threats of prison time, or worse. How many governmental programs didn't come to light until decades later? You fail to take into account how many "conspiracy theories" turned out to be true.

 

[nismo91]

Let's add more fuel to the fire:

has there been any sightings of UFO in the chinese airspace so far? lol

I mean just imagine for a second that an unmanned foreign aircraft decided to say enter China or Russia Airspace. they wouldn't tell the world for sure. so yeah if anyone can find out it's probably these guys from pentagon lmao.

now you know there's another reason why they banned whatsapp in china... so that when someone somewhere knows something about UFO, their information wouldn't be leaked to the "wrong" party first.

lmao someone should make a movie or tvseries about this

 

[Scodd]

Where is the beef?

 

[sauri]

Another carefully orchestrated "leak" to confuse China and overstrain its defense industry in a wild-goose chase. Basically, Reagan's "star wars" all over again.

 

[Darth Shiv]

"The US government, its allies, and defense contractors have retrieved partially and fully intact exotic vehicles"

Come on, give me a break. Not just the US government, but its allies and defense contractors all knew about this and they *ALL* somehow managed to keep it a secret? They can't even keep basic stuff secret, but they kept THIS a secret? Please. Not only that, it's multiple "exotic" vehicles, both partially and fully intact. Yeah, right. If you believe any of this nonsense then you're nuttier than rat droppings in a Snickers factory.

Yes anyone can say stuff and be just like a million other crackpots. Until we're seeing something tangible, this is going on the tinfoil shelf.

 

[Tyler Dur Den]

It doesn't matter! I hope we all die on this rock because we deserve it!

That's guaranteed. We will all die, and the vast majority of us will be on the Earth when it happens.

 

[PEnnn]

They're trying to distract us from the real aliens of course. Aliens who already walk among us, with catfish lips, orange faces, and bodies shaped like a port-a-potty... wait a minute...

They're found on almost any beach in the US....and one of them even became a president!!

 

[JamesBlond]

If true – would be the biggest story in human history...its not true and even if it was it would never be the most biggest story in human history....LMAO
there is only one story which will remain the biggest until the end of time.

 

[JamesBlond]

"Exotic origin" lol, sounds like he found a boat at a strip club.

He was taking pictures of Epstein's Island

 

[wiyosaya]

The part I 100% believe given his previous positions is that he was made aware of government programs [doing whatever] that were required to be disclosed to congressional oversight, but were not.

He does not even claim to have seen any alien craft himself, but meanwhile if he has seen and has turned over more mundane documentation like program names, where they fit relative to other programs, their leadership and personnel, budget information, etc. -- all of that seems like the kind of evidence that could be used more routinely by earthly investigators to prove disclosure violations. If those programs aren't recovering alien craft maybe congress would like to know what they are doing with the money.

I am still pissed the NSA lied to congress in full public open testimony and got away with it. I'm hoping eventually some member of congress will get pissed off enough about provably having being lied to do something about it.

Apparently, there is going to be congressional hearings - https://news.yahoo.com/house-representatives-hold-hearing-whistleblower-090002402.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mi...t-ufo-retrieval-program-terrestrial-arms-race

 

[wiyosaya]

I wouldn't assume they were necessarily like humans. Maybe they are but maybe they are not. They're aliens after all.

Part of the trouble is that Humans have thought super-luminal, I.e., faster than light, travel is impossible for many years. Recent theoretical advancements indicate that is not true. Here's a very interesting article on the subject https://phys.org/news/2021-03-warp-barrier-faster-than-light.html

The author of the paper, Dr. Erik Lentz, analyzed existing research and discovered gaps in previous 'warp drive' studies. Lentz noticed that there existed yet-to-be explored configurations of space-time curvature organized into 'solitons' that have the potential to solve the puzzle while being physically viable. A soliton—in this context also informally referred to as a 'warp bubble'—is a compact wave that maintains its shape and moves at constant velocity. Lentz derived the Einstein equations for unexplored soliton configurations (where the space-time metric's shift vector components obey a hyperbolic relation), finding that the altered space-time geometries could be formed in a way that worked even with conventional energy sources. In essence, the new method uses the very structure of space and time arranged in a soliton to provide a solution to faster-than-light travel, which—unlike other research—would only need sources with positive energy densities. No exotic negative energy densities needed.

Given life on Earth may be younger than on other planets, it is within the realm of possibility, IMO, that civilizations that are hundreds, and maybe thousands of years older than our civilization on Earth may have solved that problem many millennia ago.

 

[wiyosaya]

If they were slower than light we would have "seen" them as light travels to us faster than they would. Slower than light would have meant many thousands of years travelling space; the pure maintenance of a spacecraft for that duration would be phenominal. If their biology is anything like a human (genetics being passed from one generation to another), then they would have had to have about 5,000 on-board to avoid breeding issues, death, disease, accidents, etc. - these are all issues humans face, for example "let's colonise mars" - okay, so we need to send fresh people all the time as they can't procreate too much (odd child is okay) as our genetics need at least 500 childless individuals to reduce disabilities, and 5,000 to be safe for repopulation.

Slower than light is not necessarily a given anymore. See this post.

 

[wiyosaya]

Yes. It's funny the number of top secret programs that are kept under wraps with sworn oaths, threats of prison time, or worse. How many governmental programs didn't come to light until decades later? You fail to take into account how many "conspiracy theories" turned out to be true.

People don't get that. Putting people in jail for life is/was a credible threat, though most would like to believe its not true.

 

[mastermindpks]

Good

 

[Gastec]

Let's add more fuel to the fire:

has there been any sightings of UFO in the chinese airspace so far? lol

I mean just imagine for a second that an unmanned foreign aircraft decided to say enter China or Russia Airspace. they wouldn't tell the world for sure. so yeah if anyone can find out it's probably these guys from pentagon lmao.

now you know there's another reason why they banned whatsapp in china... so that when someone somewhere knows something about UFO, their information wouldn't be leaked to the "wrong" party first.

lmao someone should make a movie or tvseries about this

CCP is the wrong party!

 

[Gastec]

Yes anyone can say stuff and be just like a million other crackpots. Until we're seeing something tangible, this is going on the tinfoil shelf.

It should go into the drawer labeled "Lies, disinformation and trolling".

 

[Bamda]

I just wondering if they have a human exchange program in place. I want to offer the lovely Marjorie Taylor Greene as a specimen to be probed.

 

[wiyosaya]

I just wondering if they have a human exchange program in place. I want to offer the lovely Marjorie Taylor Greene as a specimen to be probed.

The only problem is that they would probably decide to nuke the Earth for us to save us from her.