Thanks for bringing this up! I had a Red Devil 5700 XT for about two months. Luckily, I had an extended return window through Amazon, which let me get out of it without losing any money.
My issue with the card was very different from most. I have an ASUS PCE AC56 WiFi card installed in my desktop. Never had a problem with it in 6 years. When I installed the 5700 XT, it would somehow disable my wifi card. The workaround was to power discharge the PC for around 5-10 minutes and turn it back on. However, if there was a reboot, the wifi would get disabled again. I reinstalled my old GTX 1060, everything was fine. Reinstall the 5700 XT,WiFi stopped working. And it would stop working prior to the driver install, so it wasn't a driver issue.
I am not sure if it was just that card, or if all of the 5700 XTs would do that. But I already dealt with it for 2 months, I wasn't going to roll the dice again. Now I am just waiting patiently for Ampere.
Frankly, I think AMD should just buy DDU and bundle it into their driver installs.How many of those people have used DDU utility to remove driver remnants from the OS that are quite possibly causing these recurrent issues in the first place?
AMD brought out numerous major driver updates before 2020 update but people apparently expect these driver versions to 'seamlessly' update themselves and function without problems.
Wrong.
Many driver problems stem from outdated drivers and their remnants in the OS.
The recommended course of action is that if you are changing GPU's, you NEED to run DDU to remove old drivers from the OS completely, and then clean install latest ones for the GPU you have in the system.
Similar thing applies when installing major driver updates.
For smaller updates between drivers, DDU removal and clean install is not needed, but for MAJOR driver iterations, it is common sense to run DDU to remove old drivers and their remnants followed by clean installing LATEST drivers.
Also, it doesn't hurt to have latest chipset drivers, and sometimes even that the BIOS is updated (sometimes if you install really new hw on an older mobo without BIOS updates, it can actually cause problems down the line - not always of course).
People were suggesting use of DDU for a LONG time now... whether its for NV or AMD.
I've been using AMD drivers for a long time now like this without problems... and the people for whom I've set up their PC's with AMD gpu's and drivers, they also haven't had problems.
To the AMD defence league who are in full damage control mode at the moment *cough* evernessince, *cough* metavision.
If you are still struggling with the really very basic concept that your beloved AMD is letting the industry down.
Are you really going to continue to bury your heads in the sand? Or will you finally admit that there is quite obviously a problem. It’s becoming quite widely reported at this point. AMD themselves even appear to have acknowledged the problems.
Afterburner + Rivatuner is literally the best tuning/monitoring softwares there is, it also make troubleshooting so much easier.
From the article
"the poll suggests that 48% of all AMD users have suffered major issues, while we see less than half that figure for Nvidia users at 22%. "
The poll is the only thing I have a problem with. Everything else is fine and this is an issue that needs to be fixed ASAP. It does hurt AMD's reputation and should never have happened.
I still don't understand how you have issue with the 48% figure when you yourself should have been included in it. You were suggesting using a stable driver that is 2 months old, meaning there are serious problems with drivers that have been releasing in the past 2 months.
The question with the poll was:
"With your CURRENT graphics card, have you experienced any serious GPU driver issues in its lifetime? This might include persistent game crashes, black screens, system hangs, broken features, fan issues, clock speed issues, etc."
Maybe 5% of AMD user might have had game crashes, black screen, system hangs; but pretty much the majority of AMD users are suffering from the broken feature (enhanced sync, freesync, PCIe 4.0, Wattman, etc...), fan issues (widely reported), clock speed issues (low 1080p performances).
48% of users having problems does not mean 48% RMA rate, but it lead to a higher RMA than necessary for sure. If you love reading customers feedback on Newegg/amazon, there are plenty of verified reviews on the premium models of 5700XT that go like "game crash/broken driver, return the card for an 2060S/2070S". Of course users with non-returnable cards will just have to live with their purchases. As AdoredTV pointed out, this is anti consumer behavior from AMD and should be addressed before the next generation of GPU coming out.
Or at least reduce the price the justify the additional headaches, I had no problem buying the R9 290 despite its flaws before.
Maybe I did because you did not explitly state where they were used but mentioned your home PC in the same statement, so I assumed the type of system based on that.We always called them ATI even after the name change because that's what they were when we first started using them. And yes in your own words, you assumed they were for our PCs.
What's with the "beloved" crap? It's a company I personally prefer to others but it's still that - a company. And as such, I expect them to provide a product that does its job for a competitive price. I would in no way tolerate the supposed issues described here - the card would be an RMA very quickly.To the AMD defence league who are in full damage control mode at the moment *cough* evernessince, *cough* metavision.
If you are still struggling with the really very basic concept that your beloved AMD is letting the industry down.
Watch this;
Are you really going to continue to bury your heads in the sand? Or will you finally admit that there is quite obviously a problem. It’s becoming quite widely reported at this point. AMD themselves even appear to have acknowledged the problems.
Look at how many brand new nVidia fans have appeared here, because of this article.
So many new faces, that are just badmouthing AMD out of nowhere. As if these people didn't have accounts anywhere, on any forums, until they bought a 5700..? Who are all these people, that everyone is claiming is having a new Adrenalin issue?
Even the people on reddit with legit issues, are finding out it's a hardware conflict, and/or an actual bad card (bad memory). Or they don't cycle their monitor after new freesync updates, etc.
Yes it can!!!!!!!!I recently started using an old R9 270 I had lying around (it never got much use to begin with). As I am going thru various driver updates with it, it seemed like fan was having issues (stuttering?), and I was getting some black screens. Well at some point, my connected flat screen went black and never came back on, even after I disconnected it. Connected another flat screen, went thru some more driver updates and now everything seems fine. Is it possible that the graphics card destroyed the first tv? Can GPU's do that to tv's/monitors?
Yes it can!!!!!!!!
The computer is grounded and TV's/monitors aren't and a high voltage difference will exist between the computer ground and the TV/monitor ground.
HDMI cables are grounded so when you connect it, the computer ground pulls power from the monitor. This means every time you connect or disconnect the HDMI cable, it sparks and at some point could damage the video card or the monitor.
There is two ways to deal with this, 1 unplug everything and then connect the HDMI or 2 ground the monitor/TV.
Grounding a TV is easy, just buy a powerbar with coax connectors and run a cable from it to the antenna connection on the back of the set.
Grounding a monitor is much more complex because it is a two prong powered device.
The goal is to some how run a wire from the monitors frame to the power line ground, but this requires good electronics skills.
So the Tv option is the safest and DIY.
Electronics fail in strange ways, sometimes you get sparks and flames and other times you get intermitent unexplained problems.This happened after everything had already been connected and working.
Same here, I joined to say this. "AMD" or Radion more accurately, have had terrible drivers since ATI owned it. I had high hopes, as an AMD CPU fanboy for years, that the AMD purchase of the product would yield good drivers given time. That seems not to have been the case, and while I still purchase AMD CPUs, I refuse to install their video cards. It's really sad, because some of their product lines have been far superior to nvidia offerings but for the lack of solid drivers.I'll always be an NVIDIA consumer. I've tried the old ATI Diamond cards and all the red cards in between, but drivers have always been awful. AMD took over and the driver software really didn't get any better. I haven't really had any issues with the hardware at all. AMD really should try some new progressive strategies with their software development team.