GeForce RTX 3070 vs. Radeon RX 6700 XT: 45 Game Benchmark

Geralt

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Frankly who cares. You cant buy any of these for less than 3 times mrsp. You wont be able too for at least 12 mths. Please review something I can buy. Maybe if you stop reviewing vapourware nvidia and amd will stop selling in bulk to miners and scalpers. We are not going to forget their greed. Hopefully Intel will start to challange in the near future. Amd and Nvidia have had it too good for too long.
Yes, we won't forget.
 
In Australia atm when you can find stock the 6700xt is around $900 AUD, the 3070 however goes for around $1400 AUD

I was looking at the 3070, but frankly if I can get one the 6700xt seems like a much better bargain in the current climate.
 

grvalderrama

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Frankly who cares. You cant buy any of these for less than 3 times mrsp. You wont be able too for at least 12 mths. Please review something I can buy. Maybe if you stop reviewing vapourware nvidia and amd will stop selling in bulk to miners and scalpers. We are not going to forget their greed. Hopefully Intel will start to challange in the near future. Amd and Nvidia have had it too good for too long.
This doesn't make any sense. If there is someone that's not going to do you any favors, that's Intel. Nvidia has always been greedy but also has the best gpus, no news there, and amd has the best cpus out there so makes sense they sell better than before hence the higher price and their gpus are not that good yet and all in all nothing is relevant when you have scalpers, bot scalpers and miners buying all and leaving nothing for the rest of us and that has nothing to do with Nvidia or amd being greedy. It's just times of too little offer and too high demand.
 

philhuy

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So my 12 year old PC crashed 2 weeks ago, and I ordered some parts off Newegg, but they didn't have a GPU. I walked into Microcenter and they had a few difference versions of RTX 3060, 3070, 3080, 3090, RX 6700XT, and 6800XT cards. I decided to go for the EVGA 3070 FTW3 Ultra which set me back $600USD. They had a Asus Strix 3070 for $800.... Their EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra was $820USD, and the 3090s were all about $2,000. The RX 6700XTs they had were all over $850, and the cheapest RX 6800XT was about $1200 if I remember correctly. I thought about getting the EVGA 3080 for $820, but while the performance gains were there, I don't even have any games that max out a 3070, so I decided the extra money would just have been wasted. They had probably 100 cards in stock when I got there, but they said that after about 2 hours of being open they're usually all gone, and they don't restock them until the next day. Guess they are using a daily quota system.
 

philhuy

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Your Lucky Lads. Caseking.DE one of Europes largest component suppliers has nothing, zero last time I looked. OK they have a 1030 lol

I don't think anyone will have any luck online. You have far greater chances finding a GPU in a brick & mortar store. A great many places like Microcenter here in the US don't even list their stock online.
 

Shadowboxer

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Lol, imagine buying a 6700XT over a 3070 at MSRP.

At MSRP GeForce wipes the floor with Radeon as usual. But due to Radeons not being very good mining cards they are selling a lot cheaper currently.

Still I don’t think I’d buy one. The state of Radeon is hopeless at the moment, awful drivers making lots of games unplayable, no DLSS, no ray tracing, poor power consumption, very high temps.

But then again everyone knows AMD doesn’t care about Radeon. They use it to sell big contracts to Sony and MS. I mean ray tracing is currently running better on the consoles than the 6000 series because AMD haven’t bothered to put the work in on the 6000 series drivers.
 

HardReset

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Still I don’t think I’d buy one. The state of Radeon is hopeless at the moment, awful drivers making lots of games unplayable, no DLSS, no ray tracing, poor power consumption, very high temps.

But then again everyone knows AMD doesn’t care about Radeon. They use it to sell big contracts to Sony and MS. I mean ray tracing is currently running better on the consoles than the 6000 series because AMD haven’t bothered to put the work in on the 6000 series drivers.
Drivers: AMD drivers are just fine. Complaints about Radeon drivers are just made by fanboys Nvidia pays for doing that.

DLSS: Mostly useless, Nvidia only, feature that will be trashed by AMD's universal solution. None of Sony and Microsoft consoles support it.

Ray Tracing: AMD cards support Ray Tracing and even Nvidia's current solution is way too slow.

Power consumption: RX 6700 XT consumes less power than RTX 3070.

Conclusion: Nvidia fanboy claims something it(!) doesn't know anything about.
 
I was lucky enough to get a RTX 3070 back in january at a fair retail price. The card I was repacing was a GTX 1660 TI, and now I see the 1660 ti going for $800 to $900 hundred. This is crazy and I doubt it going to change any time soon if ever. If people keep buying at the prices they are at then the market is going to keep charging the price they are getting now.
 

Watzupken

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I feel the RX 6700 XT is not exactly a direct competitor of the RTX 3070, and in fact, there is no direct competing product from AMD to address this price bracket. The RX 6800 should be the closest comparison, but of course, it cost more. If supply is good, AMD may need to introduce a RX 6800 LE to compete with the RTX 3070, or even lower their pricing to make it more attractive.

While RDNA2 have proven to be a very strong competitor in raw rasterization performance as compared to Ampere, I feel AMD may have cut too much out of Navi22. From a max of 80CUs with the Navi21 to half of it on the Navi22, the increase in clockspeed can only do so much at the expense of high power draw. In my opinion, the Navi22 is at best a step up from the RTX 3060 and should be in the same neighbourhood as the RTX 3060 Ti in terms of rasterization performance.
 

b3rdm4n

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Lol, imagine buying a 6700XT over a 3070 at MSRP.
Indeed, but people will buy whatever is available, even with an inferior feature set, albeit it has more VRAM.. so that's nice.

DLSS must really be becoming a pain point for AMD, NVIDIA are on track for vastly increased adoption, and the current list is already good and just keeps growing. If you had a capable card, and a supported game, you'd be mad not to use it, unless you're already WELL above your personal target FPS and IQ. Every person I know that actually own an RTX card likes DLSS and knows it has a tonne of promise (for continued adoption), even in edge case where artefacts are caused over native, the performance uplift mitigates that and then some. Like usual the only arguments I see against it, come from people who don't use it and I don't care for their opinion on it whatsoever, it carries 0 weight.

AMD really need to step up on this one. I don't see their solution being as effective as DLSS 2.0, but if they can make it 'universal' then that's a massive win in itself. They also have the benefit of being late to the market with it too (as has happened in the past), so they get to learn from the mistakes NVIDIA made trailblazing it (DLSS 1.0).
 
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Shadowboxer

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Indeed, but people will buy whatever is available, even with an inferior feature set, albeit it has more VRAM.. so that's nice.

DLSS must really be becoming a pain point for AMD, NVIDIA are on track for vastly increased adoption, and the current list is already good and just keeps growing. If you had a capable card, and a supported game, you'd be mad not to use it, unless you're already WELL above your personal target FPS and IQ. Every person I know that actually own an RTX card likes DLSS and knows it has a tonne of promise (for continued adoption), even in edge case where artefacts are caused over native, the performance uplift mitigates that and then some. Like usual the only arguments I see against it, come from people who don't use it and I don't care for their opinion on it whatsoever, it carries 0 weight.

AMD really need to step up on this one. I don't see their solution being as effective as DLSS 2.0, but if they can make it 'universal' then that's a massive win in itself. They also have the benefit of being late to the market with it too (as has happened in the past), so they get to learn from the mistakes NVIDIA made trailblazing it (DLSS 1.0).
It’s not just DLSS. We have just seen the first game release to require ray tracing support with the metro exodus enhanced edition. Tech outlets like Techspot won’t be able to hide Radeons failures in real time ray tracing when they cant turn it off!
 

b3rdm4n

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It’s not just DLSS. We have just seen the first game release to require ray tracing support with the metro exodus enhanced edition. Tech outlets like Techspot won’t be able to hide Radeons failures in real time ray tracing when they cant turn it off!
There's a DF video up about the new Metro update already, and indeed the radeons are weaker as expected, 6800XT vs 3080, the 3080 can run 4x the RTGI sample count and get ~ same performance.

I am very much looking forward to that update dropping, the game looks utterly stunning.

Still, for a first dabble in RTRT for AMD it's really not too bad, and for folks not too fussed on next-gen features, Radeon might still be a decent choice, assuming of course they're in stock at sane prices.

So we have RX6000 is at a considerable disadvantage, whether reduced performance or simply absent for now (with a massive ? on what they might even deliver), for desirable (personal choice) next-gen features. Dat VRAM tho.
 
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