Google bans 'free speech' app Parler, Apple and Amazon have followed

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duckofdeath

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But in all seriousness, all I've been seeing from big tech recently is shallow, double standard excuses and what looks like revenge again people they want to hate. Calls to remove death threats and violence off platforms I can stand behind, but they're using a very wide brush here because they know they can.
And then they're emboldened by the loud radicals on the left who would cut off their nose to spite their face.

At least the EU is starting to go against them (though I still see them as a nanny state) or just pretending, but the US? No chance the next administration will be smart enough to limit them, especially since they see big tech being "on their side"...
The EU is going against them because they haven't followed EU laws on regulations on hate speech and everything else these "free speech" fascist cesspools are made for.

Thinking your personal "freedoms" is something you can force on anyone or anything else is what gets you locked up, it will always be like that in a real free nation. If you feel the need to post fascist nonsense on the internet, set up your own server on your own ecosystem.
 

Morris Minor

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Apple use forced and underage workers. they just had a factory burned down for paying their employees $7 a month. if you buy anything apple you are a terrible human and have no right to talk down to anybody.
 

Shadowboxer

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If anyone thinks big tech isn’t abusing its power to silence it’s political opponents then they need a lobotomy. That is exactly what is going on.
There are thousands of unmoderated apps on both the play and App Store. Why haven’t they been banned?
 

Hexic

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Political mountains out of molehills, that’s all this is and has ever been. You can scream “TOS” all you’d like, until you realize the politics shape and modify the “TOS”. There is no consistency, and using the TOS as a baseline is a joke of a ‘standard’, when there are none.

Politics will forever shape the direction of censorship - and that direction has been shifting towards greater censorship for the last 20 years due to people simply not able to accept other viewpoints other than their own on a public forum.

So what you have left is Reddit & Twitter that are a vacuum of the same repeated ideals, political views, and beliefs that just re-assure each other that, “everyone else is just wrong”.

It’s childish, and why nobody should take social media, the content, or the Corps that run them seriously.
 

cliffordcooley

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This isn't banning competition. It's implementing the TOS that says that inciting to violence and failing to moderate such content will lead to removal from the store. Pretty sure that the death of 4 people at Capitol should make you understand that people are willing to die for a clown.
That is such BS! The platforms have been allowing such coverage all year. And now they are using it against the party that is not the problem.
You can bet that if it rose to the level of inciting violence, it would not matter what their political affiliations are.
Have you not been watching the news this whole last year? Antifa has been inciting riots and burning building all over the country and not one of their videos have been pulled. This whole banning censorship is just that a political standard. And should be prosecuted as a governing censorship, because they are only censoring a specific political party.
 
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Cubi Dorf

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Your argument would hold a lot more water if it wasn't for the idea that their whole darned community was calling for violence.

the more people are suppressed they more will fight back. it happen in different country all the times. I hear people say they are working for peace, but their actions and comments say otherwise. you can’t get peace by suppressing your enemy, it only make them more desperate. people can do crazy thing when they are desperate. if this is about peace it is wrong approach.
 

toooooot

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Political mountains out of molehills, that’s all this is and has ever been. You can scream “TOS” all you’d like, until you realize the politics shape and modify the “TOS”. There is no consistency, and using the TOS as a baseline is a joke of a ‘standard’, when there are none.

Politics will forever shape the direction of censorship - and that direction has been shifting towards greater censorship for the last 20 years due to people simply not able to accept other viewpoints other than their own on a public forum.

So what you have left is Reddit & Twitter that are a vacuum of the same repeated ideals, political views, and beliefs that just re-assure each other that, “everyone else is just wrong”.

It’s childish, and why nobody should take social media, the content, or the Corps that run them seriously.
I agree with what you said about reddit twitter etc. I am ok with them boiling in their own juice. I can even bare the fact that they push anyone who is not like them away to other platforms.
But we knew it didn't we, it would go much further, where you wouldn't be able to find those alternative platforms, wouldn't be able to download them elsewhere. But wait there is more, there are financial companies created by big tech which will also kick out anyone who is using their payment processing apps and doesn't agree to boil in the same poison they are made of.
It is all very sad.
 

Axle Grease

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If anyone thinks big tech isn’t abusing its power to silence it’s political opponents then they need a lobotomy. That is exactly what is going on.
There are thousands of unmoderated apps on both the play and App Store. Why haven’t they been banned?

Oh course it's political. However, the people who operate Google, Apple, Facebook, and Twitter are fully within their Right to ban anyone from their platform on any pretext at all. They are private companies. BTW, the Parler app can still be downloaded, just not from the usual places.
 

fps4ever

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Oh course it's political. However, the people who operate Google, Apple, Facebook, and Twitter are fully within their Right to ban anyone from their platform on any pretext at all. They are private companies. BTW, the Parler app can still be downloaded, just not from the usual places.

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Xclusiveitalian

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I grew up being taught that different opinions are to be respected even if you disagree. Nowadays either you believe what the Democrats say or else! We, the people, give these companies too much power. Our rights are fragile and can be lost if we are dumb enough. These companies are acting as publishers and should be held accountable as such.
 

psycros

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We're so far down the Orwellian rabbit hole now that civil war is almost a certainly. These platforms have not just ignored but actively enabled murderous riots for most of the year. They also went to court to have themselves labeled as PUBLIC PLATFORMS so Trump couldn't block those he didn't want to hear from. That means they have no legal standing that allows them to choose who can and can't be on their platforms. But what does it matter when the FBI refuses to investigate the single largest case of election fraud in modern times, or when courts refuse to hear cases backed by mountains of evidence? We all know that democracy is dead and its only a matter of time before the shooting starts. Your "safe space" isn't going to do you much good then.
 

Reehahs

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We're so far down the Orwellian rabbit hole now that civil war is almost a certainly. These platforms have not just ignored but actively enabled murderous riots for most of the year. They also went to court to have themselves labeled as PUBLIC PLATFORMS so Trump couldn't block those he didn't want to hear from. That means they have no legal standing that allows them to choose who can and can't be on their platforms. But what does it matter when the FBI refuses to investigate the single largest case of election fraud in modern times, or when courts refuse to hear cases backed by mountains of evidence? We all know that democracy is dead and its only a matter of time before the shooting starts. Your "safe space" isn't going to do you much good then.

Trump was not allowed to block because he is POTUS and public position has a duty to serve the public.
 

wiyosaya

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Have you not been watching the news this whole last year? Antifa has been inciting riots and burning building all over the country and not one of their videos have been pulled. This whole banning censorship is just that a political standard. And should be prosecuted as a governing censorship, because they are only censoring a specific political party.
You mean like the bullcrap from the right that it was the antifa that attacked the capitol building? The FBI says there is no evidence that the antifa was involved. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/ But of course, if Bribart has not published this, it cannot be true, right?

I bet if you took the time to investigate this in detail, you would find that right-leaning sites filter left-leaning posts, and spread just as many if not more lies than left-leaning sites.

Like I said earlier, lobby your law makers. Until then you are just making noise that gets lost in all the crap that is already out there.
 

wiyosaya

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We're so far down the Orwellian rabbit hole now that civil war is almost a certainly. These platforms have not just ignored but actively enabled murderous riots for most of the year. They also went to court to have themselves labeled as PUBLIC PLATFORMS so Trump couldn't block those he didn't want to hear from. That means they have no legal standing that allows them to choose who can and can't be on their platforms. But what does it matter when the FBI refuses to investigate the single largest case of election fraud in modern times, or when courts refuse to hear cases backed by mountains of evidence? We all know that democracy is dead and its only a matter of time before the shooting starts. Your "safe space" isn't going to do you much good then.
Just to remind you - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-trump-cant-block-people-twitter/1682321001/

EDIT: FBI refuses to investigate election fraud? What fraud? Just because Trump says there was fraud does not mean there was. If there was, then why did not his lawyers present the evidence in court? If they had presented the evidence, Trump would still be president.

I cannot believe there are people out there that still do not believe that Trump's version of George Washington's "I cannot tell a lie" is "I cannot tell the truth."

Trump said there were 6M fraudulent votes in 2016 already. 6M just so happens to be the number of votes by which he lost the popular vote in 2016. Doesn't that tell you something? I'll translate for you. It is, as I see it, the equivalent of Trump saying "If you did not vote for me, then your vote was fraudulent." In other words, "My way, or the highway" from the "presumed leader of the republicans."
 
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