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Google to end censorship in China, threatens to pull out

By Matthew · 31 replies
Jan 12, 2010
  1. In response to a series of cyber attacks, Google has announced that it will stop censoring search results in China -- and if the Chinese government doesn't like it, Google will exit the market.

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  2. Google should stop censoring material in other countries and screwing with the hit counters for certain videos on YouTube.
  3. Congratulations Google! The only company with balls enough to do what we all must do, stop feeding an atrociously evil empire called China. This regime has done nothing for the world other than import toxic cheap refuse economically, physically, and intellectually. "China" represents everything the world would like to and must put behind it once and for all. China is the epitome of greed, deceit, pollution, corruption, inhumanness and, above all, stupidity. Their two-faced politics and freedom-crushing antics seem to know no boundaries. They treat some of our greatest human heroes like criminals and will murder, oppress, and try to eliminate by any means necessary any wisdom, be it religious, cultural or philosophical, that interferes with China's mindless bottomless thirst for control.

    It is time we all stand up to China and let their so-called "leaders" know that we've given them their chance to join us in trying to bring the world forward and they have disgraced us. I, for one, will avoid "Made In China" like the plague until they stop behaving like grade 1 children (actually, this is an insult to grade 1 children). Watching their feeble minded intimidation reminds me of so many "B' movies - even my 7 year old son finds them farcical.

    I will be looking at Google products with greater interest from now on.

    I'm expecting the Chinese goons to be all over this post...
  4. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 3,428   +1,885

    Congrats Google. I wonder how many companies will follow suit after this. And i wonder how many yahoo/live mail accounts where hacked ^_^
  5. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 1,006   +249

    This is obviously a GREAT thing for Google to do. Hopefully other companies (not just search engines) will also hop on the band wagon. I'm afraid that this wont have a huge effect though, and that the Chinese government will simply let Google go. According to another article, Google is only the 2nd most popular search engine in China, and it's not even close to first.
  6. 对你的无知感到非常抱歉!你很无知,注定你7岁的儿子也很无知!中国人民是友善的,热爱和平的,近代世界的战争有哪场不是美国人导演的呢?真正应该反省的是你们!我生在中国很幸福!
  7. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,493   +1,295

    that last post, I did a translate on the chinese writing but it came back with this:-

    å ¯ ¹ ä ½ çš "æ-çŸ ¥ à ¸ 63; å ° é žå ¸ ¸ æŠ ± æ ‰! ä ½ å ¾ æ-çŸ ¥, æ ³ ¨ å ® šä ½ 7å ² çš" children å ä ¹ Ÿå ¾ æ-çŸ ¥! ä ¸ Þ 69; ä º º æ ° 'æ ~ ¯ å <å-"çš", çƒç ± å'Œå ¹ ³ çš ", è ¿' ä» £ ä ¸ - 0028; çš "æ ~ ä º ‰ æœ ‰ å" ª åœ º ä ¸; æ ~ ¯ ç ¾ Žå> ½ ä º º å ¯ ¼ æ ¼ "çš" 1602;? çœŸæ £ å º "è ¯ ¥ å çœ à ¯ š 0; æ ~ ¯ ä ½ ä» ¬! æ'ç "Ÿåœ ¨ ä ¸ & # 22269; å ¾ å ¹ ¸ ç |!

    anyone else get this?
  8. It means that the chinese children from the year 1602 to the year 22269 will be censored
  9. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,840   +1,268

    Ran it through Babelfish. Got this...
    To you felt ignorantly was sorry! You are very ignorant, are doomed you 7 year-old son to be very also ignorant! The Chinese people are friendly, deeply loves peace, which field does the modern world's war have is not the American directs? What should engage in introspection truly is you! I live in China am very happy!

    Think I prefer your translation. I didn't know the Chinese were Scientologists.

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry
  10. Kibaruk

    Kibaruk TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,766   +1,160

    Dumb united states as usual (I won't say Americans, I feel disgraced).

    Always sticking their noses where no one asks you to (Not exactly the topic of the news coverage, but in response to the nascar loving Guest who thinks everyone should think like you). Haven't you learned enough with what happened and is still happening in Irak?

    To Dividebyzero, please do so. You call them Scientologists but they rather live the way they do than to be insulted and instaurated from one regime to another from someone they don't like.

    It's the way they have always lived and of course there is discomfort there always is anywhere, I doubt you can name me one single place where everyone lived happily ever after (No disney quotes please).

    Whats the whole deal in the "if they don't think like I do they must!", take a look at Cuba, Irak, some third world countries, its the way it has been for a long long time and if they can't develope (I don't think they should live censored, but I won't impose something they should believe) on their own and you force it you will get an Irak 2.
  11. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,493   +1,295

    just to note that was me translating it from googles own translater. And I do prefer my version! it looks like a chinese since bod was having a scientific rant at the guest! lol
  12. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,493   +1,295

    Sorry I didn't mean since I meant Science! lol
  13. matchu

    matchu TS Enthusiast Posts: 100

    You need to take a chill pill. The Chinese aren't evil. And it`s certainly ufnair to say that they are greedy, deceitful, polluting, corrupt, inhumane and stupid. I take personal offense at that. I would report you to TS, but you`re hiding behind the all-powerful `Guest` tag. Don't you just love the Internet?
  14. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,703   +171

    I find it a little sad that the US media portrays China as an evil empire and as a control freak, a country with over a billion people needs some regulation of its people. And at least China is controlling its own people, not going into other countries and trying to tell them how to run their country (and oil reserves).

    Anyway back on topic, Baidu is by far the largest search engine in China and Google pulling out of the Chinese market would be akin to Yahoo pulling out of the US/Europe, i.e. nobody would really care.
  15. xempler

    xempler TS Rookie Posts: 24

    Wow, congratz on winning the "uneducated ignorant hick trailer award".

    Oh because in America there is no such thing as...and I quote..." greed, deceit, pollution, corruption, inhumanness and, above all, stupidity"

    I'm willing to bet you voted for George Bush and has a picture of him hanging in your trailer.
  16. In all my travels I have noted that there is good and bad in all corners of the world. And a distinction should be made between the people of a country and its government. China and the USA have had issues with heavy-handed government controlls.

    Getting back on topic, as it relates to this article, there is no need for censorship in any corner. Let people say their peace...you may not like what they say, but at least you know where they stand on an issue.

    All the best!
  17. ebolamonkey3

    ebolamonkey3 TS Rookie Posts: 57

    Google actually has a stake in Baidu, and also Xunlei, one of the more popular Chinese P2P programs that uses search services provided by Google.
  18. My cousin went to China in June 2008' to teach the ruling parties children how to fit in with American's. ?? Why do this? Maybe maybe there getting ready, look out American's. Keep a eye on the road.
  19. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,124   +1,617

    Good job, Google. No place for censorship or the hacking of personal accounts by any government.

    And I say GOVERNMENT, not the Chinese people. I have a number of friends who were born in China, have migrated to the U.S. and Canada and frequently return to China. These are great - I mean GREAT - folks who have the utmost respect for humankind and some of the most generous people I've met. They also live here for a reason - can't stand their country's government.

    So don't presume that just because a government is broken, their people are too.
  20. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 14,917   +3,980

    The tragic irony is that a people who are laid back, forgiving, traditional, and perhaps undereducated in general, those who we would refer to as "a simple people" will always prove a successful target for oppression and dictatorship.

    We shouldn't feel "too left out" of the "oppression bandwagon", despite the fact we are "better educated and democratic". Here in the USA, we have Wall Street, the RNC, Sarah Palin, **** Cheney, and Fox news to do the dirty work.
  21. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,703   +171

    Seriously, to all the guys who think living in China is like living under some sort of opressive, corrupt dictatorship you should maybe go and visit China to see how it is first hand. I think you would be surprised to see that it's pretty much the same as living in a Western country, except that if you're browsing the news some bits of information may be misleading, biased or left out. Oh wait, Fox does that too...
  22. Put up any anti-US government video on YouTube and you will immediately find out that Google through YouTube will censor it. Even if it gets over 100,000 hits, it will be prevented from showing up in the featured videos section and the number of hits will always be artificially deflated.
  23. In the US it's the combination of Fox, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, and other "special" interest groups that spin a matrix of lies to the public. If a person were to have an opposing view to "their agenda" they be censored immediately.
  24. TorturedChaos

    TorturedChaos TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 821   +29

    I don't really know anything about China, but personally I believe any censorship is wrong, no matter what country or group is doing it. So I like that Google is taking a stand on it and saying 'No - you get our service uncensored or you can shove it."

    As far as the comments of the US censoring or spinning things, yep they do it. I get tired of watching the news b/c so much is bs or angled to make this party or that group look bad. All depending on who is broadcasting the report. Its getting so that you are getting as good of news from Comedy Central as you are from the news channels - and that's sad.
  25. compdata

    compdata TechSpot Paladin Posts: 527   +8

    Exactly like the president is trying to do with Fox by baring them from news coverage, and to Rush Limbaugh and other conservative commentators. So much for open and transparent :). So in short we arn't that different then China after all. By the way i spent 3 months in China and learned a lot about their culture. There is indeed some oppression of ideas and people (not much different then here), there is also a lot of good things going on. But most of what we don't understand about China has nothing to do with their government - it is the Chinese culture that would remain the same regardless of who was in charge.
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