Intel 11900K and 11700K processors are annihilating the Geekbench single-core test

I see you don't read the reviews here but probably only the features where sometimes Intel is oversold with too much optimism in the article.
According to 5900x vs 10900k review, stock vs stock, average of 11 games is 1.43 Watts per frame for 10900k and 1.07 Watts per frame for 5900x. Overclocking 5900x is almost nonsense for game performance but 10900k is usually OCed and that 1.43 Watts per frame either stays the same or becomes even worse.

So no! Intel trolls here are getting old (since according to you everything is getting old, might be that is on you).

There is another one below claiming to know the definition of gamer as "brainless herds who spend money on pointless purchases for 1% differences".
I'm not caring about the 10900k vs 5000 series. When the 10900k launched the 3000 series was all there was and so my choice was based on those two.

Now a year later I'm looking at the swap to a 11900k (for the extra fps along with unlocking pci 4.0) and again I'm quite sure that staying on my platform will continue with me having the best gaming performance around.
 
Please show some proofs like your receipts and pics of your stuff you got from day 1.

I too can say I got a dozen of RTX 3090s on day 1, but currently I got not proof to show you guys.

Until then all we can do is take these sort of postings as a teen's wet dream statements.

The last time I asked a guy who was boasting he got his RTX top end cards unboxing or something like that on YouTube, here, about the name of his YouTube channel, he said he couldn't post the link. At least he could have told me his channel name, and I could verify his claims directly on YouTube.
Can we post pics here? I LOVE proving people wrong I have no problem with showing you pics of many of them.
 
Except and has ryzen 6000 tapped out and likely to on sale this fall and if trends continue another 15-20% bump in performance combined with ddr5.

And Intel has alder lake... It's almost as if cpu technology just keeps evolving or something.

I know Intel tends to hold on to the lead longer over amd in gaming than amd holds its over Intel.

And any amount of history will prove this, for now we know Intel is taking the crown back again and likley will be ready for whatever amd might have in the fall.

I have no problem switching to amd and will do so when it's Clea they are generally always going to be the better gaming platform but one small blip of success does not equate to them now "ruling" the gaming sphere.

An Intel and amd that goes back and forth is great for everyone but I'm not interested in amds small couple month leads in between Intel if it still comes with all the issues I've seen with and builds since ryzen came to market.

Systems that are very wonky to get booting the first time that are very picky about their memory choices ones that almost always boot slower and just in general aren't as stable.

A 2 or 3 month 5% lead isn't worth dealing with all that ESPECIALLY now that the other big advantage (cost) amd has decided they no logger need to use to their advantage.

If Intel falls behind to the point that it's like it was the last 5-10 years for Intel over amd in gaming then I'll gladly switch but right now I know it's more or less a equal switch at best and some slight drawbacks at worst.

For me my gaming pc should -

Game fastest

Load fastest

Boot fastest

Boot properly everytime

Be relatively easy to overclock

That all points to Intel (for now)
 
You make an awful lot of assumptions about me and how badly I actually want/need this stuff. I have this thing called a job and it takes away from the amount of work I 1)can put into getting this stuff on day one and 2)feel like putting into getting new hardware. I'm an adult, I can wait. If I couldn't I would have upgraded from an 1800x/1070ti to something much better a long time ago.

I'm glad you can wait I wish more could do the same but the amount of salt coming off many comments makes it clear they are "not upgrading" less out of choice and more just plain necessity.

I wish everyone could get what they want but it's just not going to happen right now complaining about it won't change anything.

You're either patient and get it later or you're not and you pay up now then get what you want when you want it.

But pretending like "no one" can get this stuff so why are we eden talking about it just feels like a childish point of view to take. Again I'm glad you can wait but for many that impssoble without kicking and screaming.
 
I'm glad you can wait I wish more could do the same but the amount of salt coming off many comments makes it clear they are "not upgrading" less out of choice and more just plain necessity.
The amount of "salt" as you call it, coming off the comments comes from your arrogance as to how easy it is to acquire this new hardware. You call us fools for not having gotten like you did. How much time and effort did it take for you to actually get this stuff? I'm with the other people in the thread and don't actually believe you have many of the things you said you do.

If it takes more effort to buy hardware than it takes for me to reply to your post I'm really not interested in even trying.

And on that note I'll be keeping my salt for dinner
 
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Can we post pics here? I LOVE proving people wrong I have no problem with showing you pics of many of them.
Yes, of course. Please post them. Post your own receipts and pics in your home where you have them. Prove us wrong. Waiting....

(And oh yes, the other guy also said he couldn't post the link of his YouTube channel here because TS doesn't allow it.
- BS.)
 
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All this will prove is AMD is going for power efficiency which is what the data centers want. Lisa Su knows how to grow a business. Intel has sat on its monopoly for too long. AMD has room to grow, intel has plenty to lose. Even if these benchmarks are true, 11th gen will be a return to Intel's normal price before AMD took their system builds choice crown away with Ryzen.
 
These chips will once again be the fastest Gaming cpu you can get and will do so without really using much more power than ryzen (and when something lime fps per watt are looked at on average will likley be very close)
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You wrote a lot of text that could have been resumed with the simple phrase "Just buy it, it just works!" I wonder what you think of "surprise mechanics"?
 
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And Intel has alder lake... It's almost as if cpu technology just keeps evolving or something.

I know Intel tends to hold on to the lead longer over amd in gaming than amd holds its over Intel.

And any amount of history will prove this, for now we know Intel is taking the crown back again and likley will be ready for whatever amd might have in the fall.

I have no problem switching to amd and will do so when it's Clea they are generally always going to be the better gaming platform but one small blip of success does not equate to them now "ruling" the gaming sphere.

An Intel and amd that goes back and forth is great for everyone but I'm not interested in amds small couple month leads in between Intel if it still comes with all the issues I've seen with and builds since ryzen came to market.

Systems that are very wonky to get booting the first time that are very picky about their memory choices ones that almost always boot slower and just in general aren't as stable.

A 2 or 3 month 5% lead isn't worth dealing with all that ESPECIALLY now that the other big advantage (cost) amd has decided they no logger need to use to their advantage.

If Intel falls behind to the point that it's like it was the last 5-10 years for Intel over amd in gaming then I'll gladly switch but right now I know it's more or less a equal switch at best and some slight drawbacks at worst.

For me my gaming pc should -

Game fastest

Load fastest

Boot fastest

Boot properly everytime

Be relatively easy to overclock

That all points to Intel (for now)

What issues, I've built multiple ryzen systems for people from ryzen 1300/a320 to a x570/ryzen 3700x and never once had stability or boot issues. I also always suggest they buy ram of known quality and that has yet to back fire. Not sure what issues you think exist but your argument is the same one used to justify the pentium 4 and pentium d 15 years ago. It's simple intel fanboyism.
 
These chips will once again be the fastest Gaming cpu you can get and will do so without really using much more power than ryzen (and when something lime fps per watt are looked at on average will likley be very close)

The hyperbole over Intel chips using "insane" power is really overblown and just getting old.

Yes Intel uses some tricks to boost power for a bit to help their numbers but on average they balance out pretty well and though may use more typically come with the extra performance in gaming to back it up.

The screeching about hitting tdp's insane "house heating" and need for 360 aio is again all just a bunch of bs.

I personally run a 10900k with a 5.3ghz all core oc @1.32v and never see temps above about 63c AND THAT'S WITH AN AIR COOLER!

I had planned to rebuild the system with my custom loop I had run for 6 years now but the temps and noise were so low with air cooled cpu along with 3080 (also on air) that I've saved myself the effort of bending tubes and bloody-ing my hands/knuckles for an entire year almost now.

I'm sure the averages (and not just max pulls which WILL ALWAYS show Intel as using way more just due to the nature of how their chips boost) will show Intel chips being within a normal amount of amd and overall system temps /power usage / noise / "room heating" to be all about the same.

I know many will pull charts that skew the numbers trying make Intel look worse but the only ones that matter to me as a gamer is how many average fps and how much avg power to deliver it.

I have no fear Intel will be right in line when looked at properly.
But Intel CPUs do use a lot of power, it's not a hyperbole. It's a consequence of staying on 14nm.

And as a gamer, unless you really need that extra 1080p power you will just be giving up cores for zero or very small gains in games at 1440p and 4K. (I'm talking about the high end products and going by what leaked numbers show, we'll get real benchmarks later on)

Intel really needs to hit the nail in the head with its pricing otherwise it will be very hard to recommend fewer cores. This should also force AMD to drop its MSRP. A win-win for every consumer.
 
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And Intel has alder lake... It's almost as if cpu technology just keeps evolving or something.

I know Intel tends to hold on to the lead longer over amd in gaming than amd holds its over Intel.

And any amount of history will prove this, for now we know Intel is taking the crown back again and likley will be ready for whatever amd might have in the fall.

I have no problem switching to amd and will do so when it's Clea they are generally always going to be the better gaming platform but one small blip of success does not equate to them now "ruling" the gaming sphere.

An Intel and amd that goes back and forth is great for everyone but I'm not interested in amds small couple month leads in between Intel if it still comes with all the issues I've seen with and builds since ryzen came to market.

Systems that are very wonky to get booting the first time that are very picky about their memory choices ones that almost always boot slower and just in general aren't as stable.

A 2 or 3 month 5% lead isn't worth dealing with all that ESPECIALLY now that the other big advantage (cost) amd has decided they no logger need to use to their advantage.

If Intel falls behind to the point that it's like it was the last 5-10 years for Intel over amd in gaming then I'll gladly switch but right now I know it's more or less a equal switch at best and some slight drawbacks at worst.

For me my gaming pc should -

Game fastest

Load fastest

Boot fastest

Boot properly everytime

Be relatively easy to overclock

That all points to Intel (for now)

To go with your history of gaming, 1999-2002 AMD held the crown, it wasn't until the p4 3.06 and then the 800mhz fab that intel overtook the Athlon. They lost it again in 2003 with Athlon 64 overtaking Pentium 4 and held it until 2006. But I'm guessing you had a pentium iii, and then a pentium 4, and then a pentium d right.
 
Intel's inability to produce a 7nm chip has forced them to tweak the technology to squeeze more performance out of 14nm chips.

AMD can "easily" follow suit, optimizing their own designs to squeeze more performance out of the same 7nm fabrication process. So even with this improvement from Intel, it unquestionably won't last.
 
Intel has JUST made it to 10nm. Gelsinger has his work cut out for him. Maybe the Isreali team can pull another rabbit out.
 
"IMO its much better to grab a platform closer to the end of a lifespan" yes, versus a platform at the start of a lifespan, sure. But that's because 4 years have passed. If you have the option of the new platform vs the old, it's a no brainer to go for the new. You talk about DDR4 being so slow at 2400mhz... kinda ignore the fact the "older platform" comparison ran DDR3 at either 1600 or 1866.

Your post makes no sense. Of course AM4 is better now than 4 years ago. However, 4 years ago it was a heck of a lot better than AM3. I'd much rather have a Zen 1 than a Bulldozer...

Also, DDR5 has built-in ECC.
Mmmm...nope. DDR3 kits could easily be had at 2133 MHz for decent prices, and 2400 mhz was available for big OCers. You seem to forget that the first round of new memory is always worse then the highest end of the previous generation, unless you go all the way back to SDRAM.

Built in ECC is like having a dildo mount on your steering wheel. 99.999999% of consumers dont know why its there and dont particularly want it, no matter how much Linus froths at the mouth over its absence.

Zen 1 was a buggy mess at launch. Comparing it to bulldozer is a flawed comparison, as bulldozer was released to go against sandy bridge, and was terrible at it. Piledriver came out in 2012. Zen 1 was 5 YEARS newer. Compared to the modern competition, AKA skylake, it wasnt that great and survived only by throwing tons fo cache and cores at a problem. The resulting coffee lake 6 core destroyed the zen 1 chips. It wasnt until zen 2 came out that AMD really hit its stride and began pressuring intel.

When it comes to platforms, which commonly last for 5+ years, you want the best of the best. IF you are going to buy a DDR4 or DDR3 or DDR5 platform, you buy the one that can push it the farthest and wait for the next generation to truly crush it before thinking of upgrading. To do anythign else is to waste money.
 
Something to look forward to: In some early benchmarks, Intel's eleventh generation are demolishing their predecessors and putting up a good fight against their competitors. It's a safe bet to say these will be some sought-after processors.

In the past couple of days, a smattering of i9-11900K, i7-11700K, and i5-11500 Geekbench scores have entered the scene. Intel's flagship waded into the foray of the leaderboards. Though it's difficult to tell, it looks as if the 11900K is only beat by processors running a different operating system or using an extreme overclock.

To frame the scene, a Ryzen R9 5950X typically gets 1682 points in the single-core test, and the 10900K, 1402. The upcoming 11900K got 1892, a 35% generational leap and a 12% advantage over the Ryzen part. The 11700K was only a hair behind, with four scores at about the 1810 mark.

As we've mentioned before, Intel's upcoming Core i7 and i9 processors will be an 8-core affair, only, so their multi-core scores aren't stellar, but they're good for the core count. The 11900K got 10934, while the 11700K ranged from 10639 to 11287. AMD's octa-core 5800X is slightly behind with 10426 points, while the current 10-core 10900K lands in between with 10930 points.

There's been concern that the 11900K's eight cores could fall behind the 10900K's ten. The good news (though it sounds silly) is that these results say that the 11900K will be better than the 10900K in every way, as a successor should be. But… all that performance goodness could be soured by a high price, according to some info from last weekend.

More appealing could be the 11700K. It looks like it'll be cheaper and faster than the 10900K. And compared to the 11900K, it should be considerably more affordable and almost as powerful -- during the tests, the 11700K ran at 5 GHz, an insignificant notch down from the 11900K's 5.3 GHz. Nothing a little overclock wouldn't fix, anyway.

Rounding out the tail of the series are scores from the i5-11500 and i5-11400. Both are 6-core and 12-thread parts. The former ran at 4.6 GHz and the latter at 4.4 GHz. The 11500's single-core score of 1588 was 35% above its predecessor's, while its multi-core score was 20% higher. The 11400's scores were 10% higher than the 10400's.

At the reported prices of $240 and $225, these two chips should be pretty interesting. If they're priced any higher, though, they'll butt up against the 5600X, which is already faster than both.

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My 5950X will do 1740 stock , no PBO or tweaks
but tweak !
 
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