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iPhone X blamed for Apple's slow growth in smartphone sales

By Greg S · 40 replies
Apr 30, 2018
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  1. Following reports of reduced demand for components from Apple's suppliers, it has become clear that expectations for the iPhone X have exceeded reality. It is expected that Apple will show just 2 percent growth in smartphone sales compared to last year during the first quarter.

    It is estimated that third quarter unit sales will go down by up to 5 percent year-over-year. Not even Apple can avoid the drop in sales before the announcement of a new lineup of devices given its predictable release cycle.

    Apple has employed the strategy of releasing red iPhones around halfway through their product life cycle to regain some new publicity. Despite efforts to kindle new sales, there are few improvements to show. Executives are still going to be forced to answer to investors at tomorrow's earnings call and during the third quarter as to why original predictions have not closely matched sales figures.

    Come Fall this year, Apple is expected to release a 6.5-inch iPhone as well as a refreshed version of the iPhone X. To maintain hefty profit margins, the use of LCD panels and aluminum housings are likely instead of the more expensive OLED panels and stainless steel. Even though the iPhone X starts at $999 and the iPhone 8 starts at $699, the iPhone X only costs around $115 more to produce.

    Analyst predictions show that the average selling price of an iPhone during the second quarter of 2018 will be $740. This only gets worse for Apple during the third quarter, with average sale prices plummeting down to $691, indicating very few iPhone X units will be sold by comparison.

    At the end of the day, there is one factor that the vast majority of consumers cannot completely overlook: price. With high launch prices and a handful of proprietary accessories, Apple must not alienate the mass market by becoming too expensive to buy.

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  2. fl21289

    fl21289 TS Booster Posts: 95   +76

    At the price of a Gaming laptop.... I'll choose the laptop over an iPhone X everyday. You can also keep your unique accessories. My last iPhone was an iPhone 1...
     
  3. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,939   +1,489

    Who here is hyped about literally the same phone but in a different color? I am losing my ****, can't wait!
     
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  4. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    ...Gaming laptop at $999? I hate to tell you this, but you're in the year 2018. A laptop worthy of being called a "gaming laptop" will set you back at least $2000. You might be able to get away with a $1000 gaming PC if it's a desktop though...

    Edit: not talking about a "budget gaming laptop", which is what around $1000 would get you.
     
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  5. H3llion

    H3llion TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,694   +438

    Even that is pushing it, considering you will need Peripherals, Monitor...
     
  6. Vulcanproject

    Vulcanproject TS Evangelist Posts: 737   +1,065

    I don't know. $800 gets you something with a 7300HQ, a GTX1050ti and a 1080p screen. Probably get a machine on sale with a GTX1060 for $1000.

    That's plenty of gaming laptop for many.
     
  7. Musician

    Musician TS Enthusiast Posts: 39   +22

    Price aside, if customers are expected to pay a premium, it better be something they like/want... and I’m pretty sure many will agree they want a notch free phone.
     
  8. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,965   +1,230

    Maybe even iphone drones are finally figuring out they are overpriced, for the value you receive.
    400-500 dollar profit per phone? Yeah, nice if you can get it! But, as with Xerox in the 80's, people
    were paying more for a NAME than anything else, and others came in to replace it.
    Apple has survived on the "faith" of Steve Jobs. Yes, their phones are good, but not to the point they
    are $1,000 or more, given minor updates to them. Faster processors, gimmicks and what not? it's
    still a plastic, metal & glass rectangular slab.
    Drop the price, make a less profit and you'll move more product. But, as with any publicly traded company.
    Stockholders & beancounters control the company. Unlike when SJ ran things.
     
  9. Panda218

    Panda218 TS Evangelist Posts: 602   +313

    I just bought a Dell laptop with a 1060 inside for 800 USD. It runs GTA V on high witout any issues and has HDMI so it was plug and play with my TV. The GF has never been happier. It runs much better than the old ASUS ROG with the 970m.

    You don't need to spend thousands of dollars to game on laptops...
     
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  10. GregonMaui

    GregonMaui TS Booster Posts: 136   +45

    True its Pricey, in large part thanks to only one vendor for OLED screens, a vendor who is overcharging because they have a monopoly on production (oh and use them in their own phones to competitive advantage). And new technology in the form of the FaceID cameras, that no one yet has, so the costs are still high.

    If only Apple made less expensive phones to compete, they could call them the iPhone 8 and 8+ (just saying). And if incremental speed improvements are not worth anything, they could sell last years model, which must be fast enough, they could call it the iPhone 7, and 7+ (maybe).

    The iPhone X is literally the best phone I have every used. Its like using an phone which is unlocked, yet it has a higher level of security than Touch ID, and certainly 2d photo recognition phones. And no, I haven't used every phone in the world, some of which have excellent reviews and high customer loyalty, so I'm sure they are good phones as well.

    People buy Apples because they like the way all the products work in a well-thought out and integrated way - not because they are stupid morons. As an example, I unlock my phone, it unlocks my watch which unlocks my MAC. I control my HomePod from my Mac, watch, phone, and Siri. Anyone can point to this product does this better, and this product does this cheaper, true enough, but not true enough to get me to jump to a phone with a marginally better camera on some measures and lower on others that is a few hundred cheaper up front and give up what I like. The fact is that when other products are better, they are marginally better, when other products are cheaper, they are either marginally cheaper for equivalent quality, or cheaper because they are cheaply made. If I wanted that, couldn't I just buy last years products?
     
  11. GeforcerFX

    GeforcerFX TS Evangelist Posts: 875   +372

    Where have you been? it is 2018 and we now have gaming laptops that are $700-800. This has been a trend over the last 3 years, 2012 $800 got you a mid tier 640 or 740m gpu with a dual core i5, now it gets you a gtx 1050ti and a 4 core i5 or sometimes a 4c8t i7. Dell, Acer, HP, Asus all of them are running gaming laptop lines in this price range.
     
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  12. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    That very much is not true. The parts cost will be less than 50% of the retail price (like usual). Apple can afford to drop the price by a couple hundred and still make a big profit, but they're more a fashion brand, so the high price is what you pay to show off the Apple logo.
     
  13. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    You can play decent games on a lower priced laptop (edit: aka a "budget gaming laptop"), yes. But these days being "VR ready" is what's considered a worthy "Gaming Laptop". Anything lower than a 1070 currently won't keep up.
    And then just because you spend a lot on a PC, doesn't make it a gaming laptop either :p
     
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  14. Vulcanproject

    Vulcanproject TS Evangelist Posts: 737   +1,065

    Nope. Only in your definition!

    I certainly don't define a 'gaming laptop' as a machine that must be fast enough for VR. I suspect that very few will agree with your definition of what makes a laptop suitable for games.
     
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  15. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    Then the term has no meaning. I could call my 5 year old laptop a "gaming laptop" because it could/can play games. Heck, I could call a Macbook Air a "gaming laptop" lol

    And the focus is a worthy gaming laptop. One that plays the latest and greatest performance heavy games.

    Edit: not talking about a "budget gaming laptop".
     
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  16. GeforcerFX

    GeforcerFX TS Evangelist Posts: 875   +372

    Umm no, being able to play games well is what makes a gaming laptop and gaming laptop. You can spend $800 on a laptop and get one that is significantly worse at gaming than the budget lines. Seeing as less than 1% of the steam user base is using VR headsets I don't think VR capability means much of anything to PC gamers looking at laptops.
     
  17. Panda218

    Panda218 TS Evangelist Posts: 602   +313

    I found face ID to be a giant waste of my time when I tested an iPhone X for couple of weeks at work. I much prefer using a Bio scanner like my pixel 2 or iphone 6s uses as I can unlock the device before its even out of my pocket.
     
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  18. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    Then call it a "budget gaming laptop". It would make more sense.
     
  19. GeforcerFX

    GeforcerFX TS Evangelist Posts: 875   +372

    Or just call it a gaming laptop, and by saying the price anyone with knowledge about laptops and gaming laptops would already know it's a budget gaming laptop. Do I have to call the Toyota Yaris a "budget Car" every time I talk about it? No I call it a car, anyone with knowledge of cars and the car market knows it's a budget car after knowing the price.
     
  20. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    Horrible comparison. It would be more like trying to call a Toyota Yaris a sports car because it can drive fast. Heck, calling it a "budget sports car" would be hilarious.
     
  21. fl21289

    fl21289 TS Booster Posts: 95   +76

    Negative sir, you can get a well bada$$ gaming laptop for around 800-1000 these days. Just keep an eye on Slickdeals, brands like Acer, Asus, Dell, Lenovo and HP go on great sales daily. I'm not talking about lightweight gaming laptops which will cost around 2000.
     
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  22. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    So, you can find a $1000 laptop with a 1070 minimum? 1050's and 1060's would be considered budget (last I heard).

    Ps. nothing wrong with budget, but if you say you have a new(er) "gaming laptop", I personally would expect a 1070 or 1080 in 2018.
     
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  23. BGrant

    BGrant TS Enthusiast Posts: 30   +27

    please stop. you're not making any sense.
    1060s are definitely not budget. Playing VR is NOT a standard in the gaming community.
    The fact that you have a dedicated video card already makes that laptop a gaming machine.

    You want to justify Apple's prices so hard that you can even make sense anymore.

    A thousand dollars for a social media, messaging, photo machine is completely insane.
     
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  24. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,458   +1,034

    You might want to hit the reply button 1 time next time :p

    Under $400 for your graphics card is budget these days last I checked.

    And congrats on not knowing what the difference is between a budget gaming laptop, a gaming laptop, and a laptop. Running VR is the new Crysis.

    But the most hilarious thing about your reply is that you're suggesting I'm justifying the Apple tax? Why don't you try again. Because it also seems like you don't know Apple (since their $1000 machines are usually used for exactly what you just said is "completely insane" lol).
     
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  25. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,987   +2,287

    Perhaps this is an indication that crApple is out of touch with its sheep?
     

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