Japan accepts America's giant robot battle challenge
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learninmypc
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psycros
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Giant piloted combat robots: the most improbable, inefficient type of battle machine you could ever conceive. Inherently unstable, slower than a jogger, incapable of carrying heavy armor or much ordinance and easily disabled. Also, no ability to handle rough terrain and an easy target for anything and everything. Let's not forget the issue of power - they would need to burn fossil fuels to have any kind of range or lifting capacity (esp. since a recharge is hard to find on the battlefield). Now, as a tool for *law enforcement* a humanoid exo-walker makes a lot more sense. You'd only need enough armor to stop small arms and maybe a pipe bomb. Weapons loadout would also be quite portable..a light machine gun, Gatling shotgun, grenade launcher and a ramming arm could fit just fine and not overtax the motor. It could even be electrically powered if it wasn't moving around a lot. Since it would most often be used as a heavy security measure (particularly when riots are likely) I don't see why it couldn't run off batteries, although fuel cells would be smarter. Adding a switch that electrifies the exterior when you get swarmed would also be smart..not that the pilot would be in danger because there wouldn't BE a pilot. Bots will only make sense as drones until jamming becomes so ubiquitous that radio is no longer a viable means of control. Even then we'll probably only see powered armor used by soldiers rather than huge stomping mecha - well, unless we make the mistake of building fully autonomous AI into them. But man, it sure is a fun fantasy.
captaincranky
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Well, from a practical standpoint, after 8 years or so here, you should be able to put what the person you're quoting said, inside,the quote box, and your reply outside of it.. It's OK though, I've had rookies explain to me the problem when everything, quote and response, falls within the quote box. The software is defective. No doubt they're correct, at least in their own mind.
With respect to your string of negation reversals, I would like to say, "cogito ergo sum, I think. But then again, maybe, maybe not.
captaincranky
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Are you sh*ttin' me? By the time the diplomats and politicians get done with our robot, it won't even have the power to stop and frisk. That would be politically incorrect, violate the Japanese robot's civil rights, be viewed as police profiling, therefore causing any fruits of that search, to be inadmissible in court.
GeforcerFX
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The JATO runs on fat albert have been over for awhile now but thye were amazing to watch, got to see it twice in my life. Also F-16's in full afterburner produce more noise then legacy F/A-18.
http://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=19615&sid=a50e87d398f293b414682ed7783707b9&mode=view
captaincranky
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....Perhaps, but they don't produce more tiger tails when grouped in a pride.. The difference between 145 & 143 DB, is for all intents and purposes meaningless. Direct exposure to the exhaust of either plane would likely make you go deaf in a matter of minutes .The Navy fighters are much more imposing. They're bigger, have the whole twin tail, and twin burner can thing going on. But yes, in certain parameters an F-16 will outperform an F/A-18.
They both will fly circles around a McDonnel-Douglas F-4 "Phantom". But if you look at a Phantom, you'll never mistake for anything other than a fighter jet. It has than mojo down pat.
If we're in it for stats on paper, the lowly EA-6B Prowler, is the loudest of the bunch on the ground at military power. Go figure.
I've actually been to airshows where both teams performed on the same day(s). I've been suffering "air show jones", since they closed the Willow Grove NAS.
One thing that falls in favor of the Air Force T-Birds, it's a ton easier to photograph a white aircraft against a blue sky, than it is to photograph navy blue ones.
Which reminds me, I should drag out the countless rolls of negatives I have of my airshow visits, and scan them into the computer.
GeforcerFX
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yeah turbojets (F-4, A-6) tend to be louder, I will say the blues are a louder performance and that comes from the EM of the F/A-18. A clean F-16 down low doesn't use the burner to much and I was talking with the guys at our show last year(one of them is from my town) they rarely use full burner, the F/A-18 bleeds energy a lot faster during turns and is a heavier aircraft and they carry more fuel while performing (7,000lbs vs 10,500lbs) so the engines do end up going into burner more often and they do use max AB during the performance, mainly the solos though, the Diamonds sound the same to me.
Would like to see the photos if u get em scanned
In electronics, America can never defeat the Japanese, they have awesome skills, experience and technology in Electronic world. Of course Japan will win and should be, but I would rather prefer the globalization of the world. After all we are humans, and by globalization human will develop thousand time faster. This is all I think.
Anmol Vachan
Anmol Vachan
Awesome indeed! I see a rematch no matter who wins. Best 2 out of 3 at least. Hand to hand? Well, if the Japanese want it that way, it's only because that is what theirs is designed to do best. The American bot currently has no melee capability besides just running into something, but I'm sure we can come up with something like the Battlebot Tombstone has to offer... a really heavy rotating I-beam or something like it. Speed kills though, and a fast robot is harder to hit and can engage at will, so the American team will have to do something about that. Still... I'd like very much to see the match. The "people on board" thing is a negative for both bots though. How can you destroy the other bot without killing someone. I don't think they will have people pilots IN the robots when the actual fighting takes place.
kuroiei
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Nobody thinks it's RobCo military robot from Fallout? Well... I'm going to slowly start my search for a nearest vault... http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net...try_bot.png/revision/latest?cb=20110125161721
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Cmon, everyone knows this is just to help develope the tech for that future war or alien invasion. 
Get ready for the russians and chinese to start making their own!
Get ready for the russians and chinese to start making their own!
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