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Latest Snowden documents reveal the NSA has been spying on Huawei for years

By Shawn Knight · 30 replies
Mar 23, 2014
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  1. In what some may consider a case of the pot calling the kettle black, classified documents reveal the National Security Agency managed to hack into the servers of Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei.

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  2. davislane1

    davislane1 Inquisitor Posts: 4,493   +3,490

    "At this point, it’s probably a safe bet to assume that everyone spies on everyone else."

    This has been the case since at least 4,000 B.C.

    What's interesting is the apparent level of transparency these so-called spy agencies have these days. I don't think a week has gone by in the past two years I haven't heard of some new revelation concerning the day-to-day affairs of the NSA & company. Ironically, we're now more in the know about what happens at the NSA than in the White House.
  3. B-b-but spying on a potential adversary's government is what the NSA has been created for. Why this "NSA spies on foreigners" news is climbing up the top? When the NSA spies on us Americans it is shameful and illegal. But when the NSA is doing its job it is their business as usual, and I am glad to shell out my taxes so that they can do that. What is the news here--the government is finally doing its job? Oh boy.
  4. davislane1

    davislane1 Inquisitor Posts: 4,493   +3,490

    Ad revenue.

    When the intimate details of a spy agency's activity are frequently appearing in popular news, it isn't doing its job. Clandestine intelligence operations by definition are not supposed to be painfully conspicuous.
  5. Every rotten deed is coming to the surface... this is the true face of america...
  6. davislane1

    davislane1 Inquisitor Posts: 4,493   +3,490

    ...And China, and Russia, and Britain, and Germany, and France, and Italy, and [every other major state here]
  7. The problem now is that they are getting info about absolutely everyone, they can use theirs analitical tools to get info about anyone they want, and we are talking about civilians, not targets like in the past.
    But the real problem is than they use that info absolutely discretional, so, the people in the power know to much. Like in a perfect dictatorship. I really don't know how much time a good democracy can take that.

    I agree about the benefics about the spying (more to protect again the future of terrorist attacks), but there are some people than trust to much in the people with access to the info, also, for every spying device they use agains the civilians, there should be three spying devices controling what they are using than info for. (sorry for the english)
  8. Gamesinner

    Gamesinner TS Rookie Posts: 86

    Intelligence is very important in any type of warfare. In my opinion it is this kind of leaking that makes Snowden a traitor. It's time for Mr. Snowden to mysteriously slip down a flight of stairs and die. Of course I'm sure Putin is guarding his little show monkey closely.
  9. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Everyone spies on everyone except when a plane goes missing then nobody knows what the F happened or how it happened xD
    lmike6453 and Raoul Duke like this.
  10. Matt12345170

    Matt12345170 TS Booster Posts: 102   +28

    Ohh SHINYnew techspot
  11. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,230   +229

    Previously, russia said that snowden should no longer embarrass the U.S.A..
    now that Russia is 'retaliating' against the west's interference in crimea, I believe Russia is now prodding snowden to spill more beans.

    (at admins: I don't like the 'look' of the new techspot website but it sure loads a lot faster than before.)
  12. If they are spying on the Communist dictatorship that runs China, the NSA is finally doing their job!
    site will take some getting used to, but really, "interactions" instead of "comments"?
  13. Tiberath

    Tiberath TS Member

    You're right. Spying on your allies (say, r example, Australia) is definitely how you enact better warfare. Planning in conquering us, are you?

    I have an idea. Stop looking at everything in terms of warfare and wake the hell up...
  14. Gamesinner

    Gamesinner TS Rookie Posts: 86

    Apparently you've never heard of the phrase, "to secure peace is to prepare for war". How nice it would be if we could all hug one another and sing "Kumbaya" in peace and tranquility. But unfortunately we live in an imperfect world that does not suffer fools.
  15. davislane1

    davislane1 Inquisitor Posts: 4,493   +3,490

  16. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,169   +3,261

    Yeah and who ever said that was an idi-ot! You don't secure peace by starting a war. Starting a war is exactly what you are doing, when you prepare for war.

    The US has been prepared for war for decades. Look at us now, our leaders are so bold we are at the brink of picking fights.
  17. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,762   +435

    Yes but who controls the root DNS servers and effectively has superuser privileges over every SSL/TLS connection in the world? The real question is "Does any single state deserve this level of trust?".

    Spying on Huawei by the states makes perfect sense to me. They'd be negligent to not want to know what Huawei routers do and how they work. Especially considering the degree of use they have worldwide.
  18. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,169   +3,261

    You mean who used to have control?

    U.S. to relinquish government control over Internet

    TechSpot posted the news, but I'll be damned if I could find the link using TechSpot search (powered by Google is meaningless).
  19. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 7,986   +2,875

    Everybody's being spying on everybody forever, it's in our DNA. Even animals watch each other like hawks in case they miss out on something. With the explosion of technology and the internet it just shifted the goalposts a bit. Apart from that nothing's changed.
    lmike6453 likes this.
  20. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,230   +229

    there is only one thing that can unite mankind. perhaps it's time for some real extra terrestrial aliens to show themselves.
    Skidmarksdeluxe likes this.
  21. Khanonate

    Khanonate TS Booster Posts: 127   +15

    There is only one thing that can unite mankind. perhaps it's time for some real extra terrestrial aliens to show themselves.[/quote]

    Resistance is futile! You will be assimilated - Borg
  22. It's the hypocrisy, as the article puts it, "the pot calls the kettle black".

    The American government loves to appear on moral high ground, somehow many people choose to believe it actually is.
  23. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +95

    Apparently 'the west' invested billions in propping up this so called 'revolution' which implanted extreme right wing fascists in Kiev. In fact, the whole problem stems from fixation of 'the west' to expand and encircle anyone who isn't willing to fall in line with their 'objectives'.

    Apparently, this whole Ukraine farce is created for two objectives;the other one being to save European banks from defaulting due to probability of Ukrainian default on its loan (by forcing another huge $$$ loan on them).
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2014
  24. Many people live in fear, so they come up with ways that fuel those beliefs (spy, war, murder, etc.). They give in to ego and say we are better than others so we are justified in behaving in a different way or the rules don't apply to us. Someday we may wake up and learn to live in love and feel compassion for others. It is as simple as making a choice in which world we wish to live in.
  25. cmbjive

    cmbjive TS Booster Posts: 777   +138

    Remind me again, but isn't Huawei a "Chinese telecommunications company"? Why is it news that a "Chinese telecommunications company" is being spied on?

    In other news, Russia gained the ability to bypass American intelligence monitoring and protocols. I wonder how they were able to get this ability...?

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