LG accused of tracking its smart TV users, scanning home networks, and recording conversations

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WTF?! An investigation by YouTube channel Gamers Nexus has found that LG's smart OLED TVs track users' viewing patterns across streaming platforms, cable, and local media. The televisions also reportedly scan users' home Wi-Fi network, collect information about connected devices without permission, and transmit the data to LG Ad Solutions to push targeted advertising.

The investigators found that LG was using Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology to track not only users' viewing habits but also any content played through the TVs' HDMI, USB, RJ45, optical, RCA, and coaxial ports. However, using ACR to track content is not just a problem limited to LG but an industry-wide practice used by almost all major smart TV manufacturers globally.

The investigation, which was conducted in collaboration with fellow tech YouTubers Level1Tech and multiple independent security researchers, also found that the TVs have a major security loophole that can be used by hackers and other malicious actors to surreptitiously record audio through the built-in microphone, even when the device is switched off.

Alarmingly, unplugging the TV from the power socket and shutting off the internet don't automatically delete the recordings or prevent the data from being transmitted. According to the researchers, the recorded audio files can be safely stored on the TVs' local storage and sent to third-party servers once it's powered on and reconnected to the internet.

As if the risk of hacking and unauthorized data harvesting aren't troubling enough, the researchers also found the TVs harbor critical remote-code-execution vulnerabilities that could potentially be exploited to steal user data. The report did not reveal details about the RCEs as the researchers are still in the process of reporting them to LG in accordance with industry practices.

It is worth noting that this is not the first time Gamers Nexus has called out LG for unsavory business practices. Earlier this year, the channel reported that several popular LG monitors were automatically installing a sketchy Windows app without permission. The monitors were also reportedly collecting user data and displaying pop-up ads for McAfee antivirus and other software.

Microsoft's executive VP of Windows and Devices, Pavan Davuluri, later confirmed that Redmond had to intervene and force LG to remove the controversial app from the Windows Store after a massive outcry from users complaining about the pop-up ads and automatic app installations.

LG has since denied most of the claims. In a statement to Tom's Hardware, it said:

The claims made in the recently published video are not true. LG TVs process voice data only when the voice button on the remote control is pressed and held, or when a wake word such as 'Hi LG' is recognized after the user has activated the Far-Field voice recognition feature. Other than these instances, the TVs do not collect or record ambient conversations. (If the wake word is not recognized, no voice data is transmitted to the server; the audio processing for wake word detection is performed locally on the device and is immediately deleted.)


Additionally, to provide smart TV functionalities, LG TVs feature the ability to scan for and connect to nearby devices on the same network. This is a standard function commonly provided by smart TVs and smart home devices.

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"This is a standard function commonly provided by smart TVs and smart home devices"
so... everyone is stealing your data already, so do we;)
I recommend watching video. Amount of data they get is crazy. But that is not only them, Roku is even worse. More information here:
 
If so, then it needs to tell broadcast and streaming services to stop putting out pablum and be more like Apple+ in quality of new offerings.

I turned off everything in settings that relates to privacy, the day I set up my still excellent LG C1 tv.
 
LG turned into such a crappy company. Aside from their high end OLED TV's the rest of their products since 2020 have gone down hill.

Should we be surprised they are collecting unauthorized information for them to sell it?

I'm not surprised at all, but it's outraging nevertheless.
 
This entire article can be summed up with "Duh". Honestly I don't give a rats *** if they are spying, tf do I care? Please continue to subsidize your TV's cost with ad revenue. I don't connect my main TV's to the internet because the company's that roll out updates tend to break them, not because of tracking.
 
Maybe if I only pirate content, but sometimes I just want to watch some netflix and not waste time looking for sketchy websites.
Never use built-in smart TV apps a at all. Prevent your TV from directly accessing the internet entirely. There is absolutely nothing the manufacturer is doing that requires or provides anything of value.

Example: use an NVIDIA Shield, which does not have these invasive hardware tracking mechanisms—though you still need to open the device settings to disable standard Google and NVIDIA telemetry.

But you can simply go into the device preferences and privacy menus to toggle off usage diagnostics, limit personalized advertising IDs, and opt out of experience improvement programs.

For further improved privacy, you can even install a custom, ad-free home screen launcher application like Projectivity Launcher to completely strip out Google's default promotional trackers.
 
Maybe if I only pirate content, but sometimes I just want to watch some netflix and not waste time looking for sketchy websites.
Ok, then plug in your computer, or cast from your phone, or use a TV box to stream from official sites.

In no way does your TV need internet access.
 
Which is the reason I have a dumb TV. No doorbell camera, (I do have a camera, but no cloud service) or a smart anything appliance... Some times it pays to be smarter than inanimate objects.
 
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STOP CONNECTING YOUR TV TO THE INTERNET!!!!!

Do you think that was loud enough to get through people's skulls?
IIRC, there is a fair amount of evidence and anecdotal reports of smart devices connecting to any open WiFi they can find if you don't connect them to something. LG included.

Unless you can convince every neighbor you are ever going to have to secure their WiFi, your smart devices ~are~ going to connect to the internet at some point, and the only evidence you'll have that it happened is a new app "magically" shows up on your "disconnected" TV or it somehow updates when you weren't looking. Or your neighbor with an unsecured WiFi yells at you for "choosing" to connect your TV to their WiFi.

Your only way to keep it from connecting is disabling the antenna with a hardware mode of some kind.
 
IIRC, there is a fair amount of evidence and anecdotal reports of smart devices connecting to any open WiFi they can find if you don't connect them to something. LG included.

Unless you can convince every neighbor you are ever going to have to secure their WiFi, your smart devices ~are~ going to connect to the internet at some point, and the only evidence you'll have that it happened is a new app "magically" shows up on your "disconnected" TV or it somehow updates when you weren't looking. Or your neighbor with an unsecured WiFi yells at you for "choosing" to connect your TV to their WiFi.

Your only way to keep it from connecting is disabling the antenna with a hardware mode of some kind.
Every wifi router from every internet provider today defaults to requiring passwords. It's not 2005 anymore, you have to jump through multiple hoops to get a non protected wifi network.

I havent seen one on any of my devices in years, other then local ones from HP printers or the like, which have no network connectivity. So if LG wants to forward that info to my neighbors HP printer, have at it, but there's no internet there.
This entire article can be summed up with "Duh". Honestly I don't give a rats *** if they are spying, tf do I care? Please continue to subsidize your TV's cost with ad revenue. I don't connect my main TV's to the internet because the company's that roll out updates tend to break them, not because of tracking.
If they were not putting in cameras, and microphones, and computers into these TVs, they wouldnt NEED to subsidize them.
 
Never use built-in smart TV apps a at all. Prevent your TV from directly accessing the internet entirely. There is absolutely nothing the manufacturer is doing that requires or provides anything of value.

Example: use an NVIDIA Shield, which does not have these invasive hardware tracking mechanisms—though you still need to open the device settings to disable standard Google and NVIDIA telemetry.

But you can simply go into the device preferences and privacy menus to toggle off usage diagnostics, limit personalized advertising IDs, and opt out of experience improvement programs.

For further improved privacy, you can even install a custom, ad-free home screen launcher application like Projectivity Launcher to completely strip out Google's default promotional trackers.
Or buy a Non-Smart TV if you don't trust yourself... :)
 
STOP CONNECTING YOUR TV TO THE INTERNET!!!!!

Do you think that was loud enough to get through people's skulls?

But then they'll take the next step pioneered by Microsoft that the TV won't work or will be limited unless connected, activated, and logged into the Internet.
 
I suspect they had to figure something out since the prices of panels and long term margins on television are declining. So this is what you got, a invasive telemetry build inside your TV that tracks, logs and uploads evertything back to LG.

I never believed in hooking up any device such as a TV or even my dishwasher, let alone coffee machine to the internet. Unless it's a function I really need (such as streaming) we do not have really a choice unless we bypass the TV and use it for dumb displaying through a 3rd device.

I remember even my Sony stopped broadcasting, a certain "Adult" channel because it was against their TOS. Can you believe it?
 
DUH! You don't get inexpensive things connected to the web, without giving up your privacy.
Heck, privacy went away a LONG time ago, when you first setup your first windows computer
back in the day, and clicked YES on the TOS. ;)
 
These companies don't include all this spyware crap because their profits are slim due to low prices- that's complete bollocks! They have low prices in order to entice people to buy their spyware-riddled products in the first place.
I watched the aforementioned video. All the empirical results are there for the viewing. LG can't deny any of it. They can only use the usual weasel words of corporate-speak.
 
I had to connect my Samsung TV and set up an account in order to set it up. :( Should have boxed it up and returned it right then.
This. They are all moving toward requiring you to open an account with the manufacturer in order to use the TV period or at least to activate all features.
 
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