Lidar maker Hesai CEO warns society not ready for rapid self-driving rollout

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Big quote: Shanghai-based Hesai Technology is the world's leading supplier of lidar sensors – a critical component that helps autonomous vehicles "see" their surroundings. CEO David Li recently warned that the road to fully self-driving cars will be far slower than many in the industry expect, citing significant societal and regulatory hurdles. He noted that public tolerance for fatal accidents involving self-driving cars remains near zero, far lower than the acceptance of traffic deaths caused by human drivers.

Li told The Financial Times that while nearly one million people die in road accidents each year, a company building a vehicle responsible for even a single death annually could face existential backlash.

"Close to one million people lose their lives every year to car accidents. If a technology company builds a vehicle that kills one person every year, that's one-millionth of the difference, but it will have trouble to survive," he said ahead of Hesai's secondary listing in Hong Kong.

At the same time, the industry is investing heavily in autonomous technology. Companies including Tesla and Waymo, a subsidiary of Alphabet, have launched fleets of robotaxis in the United States, while in China, Baidu, Pony.ai, and WeRide are piloting commercial services.

Carmakers have also integrated semi-autonomous features into consumer vehicles, although Beijing recently moved to restrict their use following a fatal crash involving a Xiaomi SU7 sedan earlier this year. "We have a very low tolerance when they make a mistake," Li said, adding that the technology faces not only engineering tests but also "a social question, a regulatory question, a political question."

Hesai, founded in 2014, already controls more than one-third of the global lidar market for cars and is expanding its presence as a supplier to the robotics industry. The company raised US$535 million in its Hong Kong offering this week, with shares climbing almost 10 percent to HK$234 on debut.

The share sale was backed by China International Capital Corporation, Guotai Haitong, and CMB International Capital, with cornerstone investments from Hillhouse Capital and Southeast Asian superapp operator Grab. Hesai said proceeds will go toward research, factory expansion, and automation initiatives.

The company previously raised $190 million in a 2023 IPO in New York. Dual listings have become increasingly common among Chinese technology companies in recent years as they hedge against political and regulatory risks in the United States.

Hesai has faced scrutiny from the Pentagon over alleged links to China's military, but Li said the move to Hong Kong was not driven by fears of a forced delisting in New York. "There's always rumours, but we don't operate based on rumour," he said, adding that Hong Kong investors have shown stronger familiarity with the self-driving ecosystem.

Lidar technology – laser-based sensors that generate three-dimensional maps of surrounding environments to prevent collisions – is emerging as a critical component of both autonomous and semi-autonomous systems. Market research firm Mordor Intelligence projects that the global lidar sector will grow to $6.6 billion by 2030, up from $2.8 billion this year.

Hesai's own financial results reflect this growing adoption. The company reported a net profit of $6.2 million for the second quarter, reversing a net loss the previous year. Revenue increased 54 percent on shipments exceeding 352,000 units, more than triple the volumes of 2023.

Customers use Hesai products for so-called level-two driver assistance systems, which control speed and steering and can manage advanced tasks such as lane changes and hands-free driving in urban settings.

Looking ahead, the company expects increased demand from carmakers transitioning to level-three automation, which allows vehicles to operate independently in more scenarios while keeping human drivers on standby. Li, however, sees the broader near-term growth opportunity not in cars but in robotics.

Hesai aims to leverage its scale in automotive lidar to expand into other autonomous applications. Li identified humanoid robots, drones, delivery machines, forklifts, and even robotic lawnmowers as potential beneficiaries of the same mapping technology developed for cars.

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Yes, people like the illusion of control. Even if self driving vehicles are far safer and reduced fatalities, those that do occur would be under much stricter scrutiny as people don't like the idea that there wasn't something they could have done to prevent the accident/death.
 
Let's not forget that regulations and public opinion are not the biggest issue. Rain and snow render lidar more or less useless while humans can discern objects in poor visibility conditions. Just like AI, while faster, is not necessarily better or a replacement for humans either.
 
Yes, people like the illusion of control. Even if self driving vehicles are far safer and reduced fatalities, those that do occur would be under much stricter scrutiny as people don't like the idea that there wasn't something they could have done to prevent the accident/death.

While I agree with the resistance to this, I disagree with the reasoning. Liability will prevent this from catching on. Personal responsibility has been declining for a couple of decades now. Look no further that the Tesla suit being filed. NO amount of disclaimers, owner's manual warnings, or other safeguards are good enough to assign proper blame to the drivers who are in the back seat, wearing 3d glasses, playing video games, or sleeping. So far, this type of irresponsible behavior seems to result in Tesla being sued, because there is more profit in that target than suing the real cause of the accident.

There is a reason a $30,000 car can't drive itself but a mulit million dollar plane can fly by itself. They can't sell self driving cars for the millions of dollars it would take for tech and infrastructure needed.
 
Let's not forget that regulations and public opinion are not the biggest issue. Rain and snow render lidar more or less useless while humans can discern objects in poor visibility conditions. Just like AI, while faster, is not necessarily better or a replacement for humans either.
They always dance around this issue. Weather and physics makes the self driving car nothing more then a pipe dream. Until they can create a sensor that can see through heavy rain, snow, and poor lighting conditions combined, no car can truly be self driving.
Yes, people like the illusion of control. Even if self driving vehicles are far safer and reduced fatalities, those that do occur would be under much stricter scrutiny as people don't like the idea that there wasn't something they could have done to prevent the accident/death.
Let me correct you here, it is not an "illusion of control", it is people not liking having control removed from them and placed int he hands of multibillion dollar corporations.

And car makers still havent gotten lane keeping to work consistently, and cars also cant react to unknown situations. We cant even make a chatbot with an entire datacenter dedicated to it that can work without hallucinating.

We are FAR from truly self driving cars being viable outside of sunny, tightly controlled, cities.
 
" He noted that public tolerance for fatal accidents involving self-driving cars remains near zero, far lower than the acceptance of traffic deaths caused by human drivers. "

NO $HIT sherlock ! One can sue and send to jail the *****, the other you cant do nothing, just a fine to a multi billion company. That's peanuts.
 
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