Linus Torvalds is fed up with AI-generated bug reports bloating the Linux kernel

[DragonSlayer101]

What just happened? Linus Torvalds has expressed frustration over Linux developers submitting ill-timed bug reports just before an RC5 release, with some using AI to detect trivial issues. He added that several of the fixes are also being written by AI, and that the AI-generated code often adds bloat to the Linux kernel rather than addressing the actual problem.

In his weekly state of the kernel update, Torvalds noted that the new RC5 is much larger than any other RC5 in recent memory, and he blamed developers for using AI to submit "pointless pull requests." Torvalds added that he is "not entirely happy" about the additional bloat, especially because the changes can largely be attributed to "totally irrelevant stuff."

Torvalds urged developers to be more diligent about their pull requests and warned that going forward, he will have to be more "hard-nosed" about unnecessary churn, especially when it's late in the cycle. According to him, in the days leading up to an RC5 release, developers should look for regressions rather than spending time on non-critical fixes to long-standing issues.

Explaining his stance on smaller bugs, Torvalds said that even trivial fixes could introduce new issues that could hurt long-term system stability, so developers must avoid submitting new fixes late in the cycle. "Trivial fixes ... may have a pretty low chance of causing problems, but low chance is still not zero chance," he noted.

Torvalds has long been warning about the increasing number of AI-generated bug reports that he claims are breaking Linux kernel development. Following the release of the fourth release candidate of Linux 7.1 earlier this month, he noted that duplicate AI-generated reports are clogging security channels, creating unnecessary work for the few developers who actually try to resolve the problems.

Claiming that the security mailing list has become unmanageable due to a sharp rise in AI-powered bug reports, Torvalds noted that developers need to be aware of the "enormous duplication" in bug reports right now, caused by different people finding the same bugs using the same AI tools.

It is worth noting that Torvalds is not against vibe coding. Earlier this year, he announced that he had joined a long list of well-known developers who use generative AI to write code. According to the Linux creator, he used Google's Antigravity AI - a coding assistant built to generate code via natural-language input - to generate Python code for a side project called AudioNoise.

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Linus Torvalds is fed up with AI-generated bug reports bloating the Linux kernel

 

[Rapob]

Linux biggest problem is fragmentation. Has been for decades. And lack of good drivers made by the same people that actually make the hardware. Intel, Nvidia and AMD don't even have drivers for Linux available for download in most cases.

I both laugh and cringe when people claim Linux is good for gaming. Overall, it is still pure crap. Sadly.

Linux is great for servers, not for desktop and especially not for gaming. Unless you are a casual gamer, with no intention to play newer games and multiplayer games.

Most "Linux Gamers" are using outdated hardware, playing old games, mostly in single player.

Just because a few casual gamers claim Linux is good for gaming because they can start a few games and run them with 60 fps, does not mean Linux is good for gaming.

If Linux was good for gaming, actual serious and pro gamers would use it, but they don't.
Reality calls.

 

[yRaz]

Linux biggest problem is fragmentation. Has been for decades. And lack of good drivers made by the same people that actually make the hardware. Intel, Nvidia and AMD don't even have drivers for Linux available for download in most cases.

I both laugh and cringe when people claim Linux is good for gaming. Overall, it is still pure crap. Sadly.

Linux is great for servers, not for desktop and especially not for gaming. Unless you are a casual gamer, with no intention to play newer games and multiplayer games.

Most "Linux Gamers" are using outdated hardware, playing old games, mostly in single player.

Just because a few casual gamers claim Linux is good for gaming because they can start a few games and run them with 60 fps, does not mean Linux is good for gaming.

If Linux was good for gaming, actual serious and pro gamers would use it, but they don't.
Reality calls.

You're severely disconnected. Many would argue that what you're calling a weakness is also it's biggest strength. It's also not fragmented. Some people might need to put some work into figuring out what distro works best for them, once that's don't it's set and forget. Outside of personal projects I choose to work on, I haven't had to touch the command line for much of anything.

 

[Rapob]

You're severely disconnected. Many would argue that what you're calling a weakness is also it's biggest strength. It's also not fragmented. Some people might need to put some work into figuring out what distro works best for them, once that's don't it's set and forget. Outside of personal projects I choose to work on, I haven't had to touch the command line for much of anything.

Nah, I just know how games are supported to actually run. While most Linux "gamers" thinks 60 fps is awesome. Many even thinks 30 fps is good enough. Hahahha.

Come again when you have seen 500 fps on 500 Hz OLED.

Linux is not fragmented? LMAO! Clueless. Biggest problem with Linux. Most people doing distro hopping and never learn to use Linux. I installed Arch from scratch before you even booted your first live usb and yet I don't use Linux for gaming.

Most of these socalled Linux gamers, don't even know how to troubleshoot and gets peak performance in Linux and just installed a beginner distro that "works" out of the box, installs Steam and pick one of the games that actually work, then come to the conclusion that Linux is good for gaming. Hahahha. Deluded.

Linux is overall (still) bad for gaming. Hence why you don't see any gamers build a top tier gaming system, then install Linux on it. Might as well shoot yourself in the foot while you are at it.

PC games are made for Windows, hence why ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS says Windows is needed. Linux/Proton emulation sacrifices performance in most cases and tons of games don't work at all still. On top of that, drivers are mostly crap for Linux, with no official ones for the actual high-end hardware.

Linux newbies using dated hardware, playing old single player games, acting Linux is good for gaming, makes me giggle.

In 9 out of 10 times, these people don't even know how to update the system, and/or drivers. And if they do, eventually they will break something doing it, and most will be clueless on how to fix it.

99% of PC games still run vastly better in Windows. Hence why people showcasing game performance in Linux always cherrypicks the same titles, that actually run decent (yet Windows wins in pretty much all cases, when looking at avg and 1% lows)

Linux for gaming is only good if Tux Racer is the goal (Windows version exist too, lets gooo Linux casuals!!!)

 

[yRaz]

Nah, I just know how games are supported to actually run. While most Linux "gamers" thinks 60 fps is awesome. Many even thinks 30 fps is good enough. Hahahha.

Come again when you have seen 500 fps on 500 Hz OLED.

Linux is not fragmented? LMAO! Clueless. Biggest problem with Linux. Most people doing distro hopping and never learn to use Linux. I installed Arch from scratch before you even booted your first live usb and yet I don't use Linux for gaming.

Most of these socalled Linux gamers, don't even know how to troubleshoot and gets peak performance in Linux and just installed a beginner distro that "works" out of the box, installs Steam and pick one of the games that actually work, then come to the conclusion that Linux is good for gaming. Hahahha. Deluded.

Linux is overall (still) bad for gaming. Hence why you don't see any gamers build a top tier gaming system, then install Linux on it. Might as well shoot yourself in the foot while you are at it.

PC games are made for Windows, hence why ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS says Windows is needed. Linux/Proton emulation sacrifices performance in most cases and tons of games don't work at all still. On top of that, drivers are crap for Linux, with no official ones for the actual high-end hardware.

Not only are you disconnected, but you are also one of the most negative people I have ever encountered. I'm tired of people acting like Arch is difficult to install, although I'm not surprised that would be your favorite distro, you fit right in with their toxic culture

 

[Rapob]

Not only are you disconnected, but you are also one of the most negative people I have ever encountered. I'm tired of people acting like Arch is difficult to install, although I'm not surprised that would be your favorite distro, you fit right in with their toxic culture

Disconnected because you don't agree with me? Take your medication.

Linux newbie detected. Ubuntu?

I am highly positive, you just think I am negative because you don't agree with me. You can't handle reality.

Also, I have money, unlike 90% of this forum. I don't have to complain all the time like you suckers do. I buy the stuff I want. Having money is nice. Allows me to be very positive. I can buy whatever I want. I am positive all day, every day. Happy.

Meanwhile you see people with dated hardware, claiming Linux is good for gaming, while they can barely afford to buy second hand. That is some funny shite.

 

[foxrox]

Micro$lop fanboys love casting shade on Linux. It is a distraction from the reality that Windoze is dying. Admitting that the slow death is the digital equivalent of filicide makes it even more distressing for fanboys. It is comically predictable that gamers assume the world revolves around the gaming niche. The inability to play online multiplayer titles and a small number of newer AAA titles is not a fault of Linux as much as a deliberate act on the part of game developers. Most of the "incompatibilities" with older versions of Windows and Linux are fake, fabricated and deliberate actions taken to prop up walled gardens.

 

[Rapob]

Micro$lop fanboys love casting shade on Linux. It is a distraction from the reality that Windoze is dying. Admitting that the slow death is the digital equivalent of filicide makes it even more distressing for fanboys. It is comically predictable that gamers assume the world revolves around the gaming niche. The inability to play online multiplayer titles and a small number of newer AAA titles is not a fault of Linux as much as a deliberate act on the part of game developers. Most of the "incompatibilities" with older versions of Windows and Linux are fake, fabricated and deliberate actions taken to prop up walled gardens.

Windows is dying, meanwhile Linux has 1% marketshare. Good one. Keep the jokes coming.

The fact you claim that, tells me you need a reality check. Laughing too much. Thanks for the free laugh.

 

[yRaz]

Disconnected because you don't agree with me? Take your medication.

Linux newbie detected. Ubuntu?

I am highly positive, you just think I am negative because you don't agree with me. You can't handle reality.

Also, I have money, unlike 90% of this forum. I don't have to complain all the time like you suckers do. I buy the stuff I want. Having money is nice. Allows me to be very positive. I can buy whatever I want. I am positive all day, every day. Happy.

Meanwhile you see people with dated hardware, claiming Linux is good for gaming, while they can barely afford to buy second hand. That is some funny shite.

I think you're negative because most of your posts are just throwing insults at the people who don't agree with you. I actually us Hanna Montana Linux

 

[Rapob]

I think you're negative because most of your posts are just throwing insults at the people who don't agree with you. I actually us Hanna Montana Linux

Nah I don't insult people, don't take things personal and you will be happy too

 

[TooQik]

Linux biggest problem is fragmentation. Has been for decades. And lack of good drivers made by the same people that actually make the hardware. Intel, Nvidia and AMD don't even have drivers for Linux available for download in most cases.

I both laugh and cringe when people claim Linux is good for gaming. Overall, it is still pure crap. Sadly.

Linux is great for servers, not for desktop and especially not for gaming. Unless you are a casual gamer, with no intention to play newer games and multiplayer games.

Most "Linux Gamers" are using outdated hardware, playing old games, mostly in single player.

Just because a few casual gamers claim Linux is good for gaming because they can start a few games and run them with 60 fps, does not mean Linux is good for gaming.

If Linux was good for gaming, actual serious and pro gamers would use it, but they don't.
Reality calls.

Why did you bother making a comment about gaming on Linux on an article about AI bug reporting? I really don't understand the mentality you have that makes you feel the need to make "Linux is crap for gaming" comments on every Linux article.

 

[yRaz]

Nah I don't insult people, don't take things personal and you will be happy too

Need to take my medicine? Can't handle reality? Those cannot be interpreted any other way than an insult. Or an attempted one. Although I find it more annoying than insulting

 

[Endymio]

Many would argue that what you're calling a weakness is also it's biggest strength. It's also not fragmented.

So first you call fragmentation it's "biggest strength" -- then clam it isn't fragmented?

Linux *is* fragmented. This is so far beyond dispute that it's literally incomprehensible you could even attempt to argue otherwise. That said, fragmentation does have positives as negatives. But it would certainly benefit from having fewer, stronger distros -- every time one begins to gain strength, half its developer leave to fork off a new one, usually for no more justification than "cuz we can!"

 

[JMGuy]

Nah, I just know how games are supported to actually run. While most Linux "gamers" thinks 60 fps is awesome. Many even thinks 30 fps is good enough. Hahahha.

Come again when you have seen 500 fps on 500 Hz OLED.

Linux is not fragmented? LMAO! Clueless. Biggest problem with Linux. Most people doing distro hopping and never learn to use Linux. I installed Arch from scratch before you even booted your first live usb and yet I don't use Linux for gaming.

Most of these socalled Linux gamers, don't even know how to troubleshoot and gets peak performance in Linux and just installed a beginner distro that "works" out of the box, installs Steam and pick one of the games that actually work, then come to the conclusion that Linux is good for gaming. Hahahha. Deluded.

Linux is overall (still) bad for gaming. Hence why you don't see any gamers build a top tier gaming system, then install Linux on it. Might as well shoot yourself in the foot while you are at it.

PC games are made for Windows, hence why ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS says Windows is needed. Linux/Proton emulation sacrifices performance in most cases and tons of games don't work at all still. On top of that, drivers are mostly crap for Linux, with no official ones for the actual high-end hardware.

Linux newbies using dated hardware, playing old single player games, acting Linux is good for gaming, makes me giggle.

In 9 out of 10 times, these people don't even know how to update the system, and/or drivers. And if they do, eventually they will break something doing it, and most will be clueless on how to fix it.

99% of PC games still run vastly better in Windows. Hence why people showcasing game performance in Linux always cherrypicks the same titles, that actually run decent (yet Windows wins in pretty much all cases, when looking at avg and 1% lows)

Linux for gaming is only good if Tux Racer is the goal (Windows version exist too, lets gooo Linux casuals!!!)

Imagine thinking that bragging about installing Arch from scratch and gatekeeping frames per second is some kind of alpha move. Yeah brah! I’m gonna take a serious, non-gaming article about AI kernel bloat, and turn it into a weird, aggressive flex about 500Hz monitors cause peeps be digging my unprompted I’m-a-genius-gamer-not-a-troll-cause-I’m-l33t-ur-pwnd temper tantrum about Linux!

yRaz is right. Calling an entire OS "garbage" just because it doesn't fit your hyper-specific elitist setup is just flatlined in the cognitive department. Whining about other people's platform choices isn't the l33t flex you think it is.

 

[dangh]

I game on linux and on average my fps is higher, than it was on Windows. As well, there is not fragmentation: GNU/linux is always the same kernel as usually. What other tools are added in a specific flavour clearly depends on what its user require.

But at the topic: Linus is right, with the rc 5 the code freeze should be in place and there is no resources to handle all of the old inconsistencies, small bugs and so on. You do release focuses on features and the stability is at this stage most important element. More small bug fixes will come with the next release, and it is important to keep things flowing. It is not that he can just stop releasing anything for a year until every line of code will be analyzed and addressed by dozens of ai clients, and then retested, broken and rewritten again.

 

[yRaz]

So first you call fragmentation it's "biggest strength" -- then clam it isn't fragmented?

Linux *is* fragmented. This is so far beyond dispute that it's literally incomprehensible you could even attempt to argue otherwise. That said, fragmentation does have positives as negatives. But it would certainly benefit from having fewer, stronger distros -- every time one begins to gain strength, half its developer leave to fork off a new one, usually for no more justification than "cuz we can!"

There are forks made to address specific problems, but not at the Kernal level. There are distros, but most main line distros are a general purpose OS and most users can go from one to the other without issue. There are no windows flavors. Built to address a specific problem, just an OS that people complaining about the issues they have with it and can do nothing about it because it's locked down. Does windows suck because it's locked down or does Linux suck because it's open? What I think sucks is that some people are never satisfied and want everyone else to be as miserable as they are

 

[abactuon]

Such reports are sent without verification, and those who send them are unable to answer questions or provide additional information.

 

[bviktor]

Linux biggest problem is fragmentation. Has been for decades. And lack of good drivers made by the same people that actually make the hardware. Intel, Nvidia and AMD don't even have drivers for Linux available for download in most cases.

I both laugh and cringe when people claim Linux is good for gaming. Overall, it is still pure crap. Sadly.

Linux is great for servers, not for desktop and especially not for gaming. Unless you are a casual gamer, with no intention to play newer games and multiplayer games.

Most "Linux Gamers" are using outdated hardware, playing old games, mostly in single player.

Just because a few casual gamers claim Linux is good for gaming because they can start a few games and run them with 60 fps, does not mean Linux is good for gaming.

If Linux was good for gaming, actual serious and pro gamers would use it, but they don't.
Reality calls.

So much misinformation in a single comment, I won't even bother

 

[mojoxer]

It's ironic that open source is now a hindrance, rather than a boon. Seems like letting just anyone come in and identify a problem, then even present a solution, is somehow slowing down development and deployment. If only we could keep these outsiders with their newfangled tools from coming in and telling us about all the little bugs there are.

"Dang it Bobby, shut that door! We don't need or want the community's help no more! The community we already got is good enough!"

 

[mojoxer]

Here's a question - if there's a code freeze in place, what's the big deal? The code for this RC is frozen. You found a bug? Great! Send it in! We'll keep it in the file and work on it until the next release.

Isn't the point of code freezes before RCs supposed to be to, I don't know, lock down the RC until it's released? Sure, you can still take bug reports, that's why it's an RC, but you don't have to act on them unless they break something. If they're trivial, they shouldn't affect the RC cycle.

 

[dangh]

Here's a question - if there's a code freeze in place, what's the big deal? The code for this RC is frozen. You found a bug? Great! Send it in! We'll keep it in the file and work on it until the next release.

Isn't the point of code freezes before RCs supposed to be to, I don't know, lock down the RC until it's released? Sure, you can still take bug reports, that's why it's an RC, but you don't have to act on them unless they break something. If they're trivial, they shouldn't affect the RC cycle.

Exactly. But, the problem is, ai and vibe coders generate huge amount of tickets. Earlier it wasn't an issue as there weren't so many tickets and team had a capacity to address smaller bugs. It's not the case anymore and that is what Linus explicitly stated. It is a non issue from prices point of view, but people were surprised by sudden change in approach.

 

[Kashim]

I both laugh and cringe when people claim Linux is good for gaming. Overall, it is still pure crap. Sadly.

I stopped reading your comment after this line. Linux may not be the top choice for gaming, but it was also never its originally intended purpose. To say that Linux is "pure crap" is just plain stupid.

There are over 70 million traditional desktop Linux users right now. If you include Android and ChromeOS (both are based on Linux) then the number jumps to over 3 billion active users. Linux also runs on 100% of the world's top 500 super computers.

So maybe do a little reading next time before making asinine comments like that.

 

[Endymio]

There are distros, but most main line distros are a general purpose OS and most users can go from one to the other without issue.

Only for users who do nothing but web browsing and a small handful of the largest, most popular apps. In addition my main Windows machines, I've maintained two separate Linux boxes for many years, primarily to work around these fragmentation issues.

Linux may not be the top choice for gaming, but it was also never its originally intended purpose.

I'm unsure of your point. Gaming was certainly never the intended purpose for Windows: originally just a desktop manager for DOS, and you can't say it had any real support for gaming until the first DirectX release, a full decade later. Linux acolytes have been claiming the OS is 'mainstream' for 25 years now, so obsessing over its "original purpose" seems off base.

So much misinformation in a single comment, I won't even bother

But you *did* bother ... so the yolk's one you.

 

[Loadedaxe]

Nah, I just know how games are supported to actually run. While most Linux "gamers" thinks 60 fps is awesome. Many even thinks 30 fps is good enough. Hahahha.

Come again when you have seen 500 fps on 500 Hz OLED.

Linux is not fragmented? LMAO! Clueless. Biggest problem with Linux. Most people doing distro hopping and never learn to use Linux. I installed Arch from scratch before you even booted your first live usb and yet I don't use Linux for gaming.

Most of these socalled Linux gamers, don't even know how to troubleshoot and gets peak performance in Linux and just installed a beginner distro that "works" out of the box, installs Steam and pick one of the games that actually work, then come to the conclusion that Linux is good for gaming. Hahahha. Deluded.

Linux is overall (still) bad for gaming. Hence why you don't see any gamers build a top tier gaming system, then install Linux on it. Might as well shoot yourself in the foot while you are at it.

PC games are made for Windows, hence why ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS says Windows is needed. Linux/Proton emulation sacrifices performance in most cases and tons of games don't work at all still. On top of that, drivers are mostly crap for Linux, with no official ones for the actual high-end hardware.

Linux newbies using dated hardware, playing old single player games, acting Linux is good for gaming, makes me giggle.

In 9 out of 10 times, these people don't even know how to update the system, and/or drivers. And if they do, eventually they will break something doing it, and most will be clueless on how to fix it.

99% of PC games still run vastly better in Windows. Hence why people showcasing game performance in Linux always cherrypicks the same titles, that actually run decent (yet Windows wins in pretty much all cases, when looking at avg and 1% lows)

Linux for gaming is only good if Tux Racer is the goal (Windows version exist too, lets gooo Linux casuals!!!)

You wandered off the topic entirely. The article is about Linus being frustrated with AI generated bug report spam polluting development workflows, not a "Linux gamers vs Windows gamers" competition.

You're mixing a lot of different arguments together and presenting them as absolutes. Something you seem to do in just about every post.

And you're always pounding your chest about how rich you are, as if that somehow makes your arguments carry more weight.....

 

[Ecurb]

At a fortune 50 company I dug up that on average 2/3s of all defect reports were duplicates of existing reported defects (often just different symptoms of the same core defect). With AI accelerating detection and fixes, I'd not be surprised that many are variations on the same problems.