Linux drivers confirm high-end Radeon Navi GPUs, detail new budget cards

mongeese

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Starting in the budget category, it appears AMD has five Navi 14 GPUs in the works. The driver lists the Navi 14 XT, XTM, XL, XLM, and the XTX. The first two are the previously announced 5500 and 5500M (the mobile version). The codenames indicate the next two are a cheaper variant and its accompanying mobile version, probably the 5300 we saw listed in an unreleased HP gaming PC last September. For the 5700-series, the XTX codename denoted the overclocked 50th Anniversary Edition card, so we’ll have to wait and see how that works for Navi 14.

The driver also contained various numbers that aligned with the base clocks for the 5500 and 5500M, so we’ve interpreted them as being base clocks for the other three cards too. They’re about what you’d expect. While we don’t have any information about core count, it seems the 5300 cards would likely have slightly less than the 5500’s 1408.

Model Name Core Count Base Clock Boost Clock
AMD Navi 14 XT Radeon 5500 1408 1670 MHz 1845 MHz
AMD Navi 14 XTM Radeon 5500M 1408 1448 MHz 1645 MHz
AMD Navi 14 XL Radeon 5300 ? 1448 MHz ?
AMD Navi 14 XLM Radeon 5300M ? 1181 MHz ?
AMD Navi 14 XTX ? ? 1717 MHz ?

In a different piece of code, we have a passing reference to the Navi 22 and 23, which we’ve heard rumors about for a long time. The sum of those rumors suggests they’re the flagship Navi cards Lisa Su said were in development last August, and that the “2” denotes these are the first RDNA 2.0 cards. If those rumors are true, that would be exciting, but ultimately there’s no evidence to conclude this is the case, so we’ll have to be patient.

Lastly, we have the Navi 12 and Navi 21 and their accompanying “Lite” versions. These have appeared in two Linux drivers now. Additionally, a listing on the Korean National Radio Research Agency’s website confirmed Navi 21. There have been suggestions that Navi 12 is more powerful while Navi 21 is a budget card, but quite frankly, AMD’s outrageously inconsistent naming scheme has got us stumped on how they might fit into the larger line-up.

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Vulcanproject

TS Evangelist
The 5500 should be about as fast as an RX590 with those specs.

Looking at the die sizes this is apparently 158mm² versus the RX590 Polaris 232mm². RX590 is rather power thirsty, 225 watts or so at load. 5500 should be 150 watts at most.

Anything under $180 for that performance would be a good deal.
 

Stark

TS Addict
I bet AMD will price as high as Nvidia which is the post mining high price.
I miss the days when high end GPU were priced reasonably.
 
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yRaz

Nigerian Prince
I bet AMD will price as high as Nvidia which is the post mining high price.
I miss the days when high end GPU were priced reasonably.
From what I've read, gpu mining isn't nearly as profitable as it used to be. Before you could have a 3-4 month return on investment but that has turned into well over a year in many cases.
 

Theinsanegamer

TS Evangelist
Enough teasing already! JFC its been 3 years since AMD had any answer for high end nvidia.

Vega 64 sucked, and came out a year too late to really take it to the 1080, and the 1080ti still whooped it. We still dont have a 2080/2080ti competitor. Even fury X was disappointing VS the 980ti. By the time this big navi chip actually launches, the 3080ti will come out!
 

Kazkas

TS Rookie
Enough teasing already! JFC its been 3 years since AMD had any answer for high end nvidia.

Vega 64 sucked, and came out a year too late to really take it to the 1080, and the 1080ti still whooped it. We still dont have a 2080/2080ti competitor. Even fury X was disappointing VS the 980ti. By the time this big navi chip actually launches, the 3080ti will come out!
Then you are really Insane gamer as most don’t care about highest end.. what interest masses (incl. me) is budget or mid end, so AMD is targeting these.. completely understandable.
 

Burty117

TechSpot Chancellor
Then you are really Insane gamer as most don’t care about highest end.. what interest masses (incl. me) is budget or mid end, so AMD is targeting these.. completely understandable.
That's great and all but those of us who do want high end really do want AMD to have an answer. Nvidia are really screwing us, AMD could help us if they had an answer.
 

Irata

TS Addict
That's great and all but those of us who do want high end really do want AMD to have an answer. Nvidia are really screwing us, AMD could help us if they had an answer.
Question is how many would actually consider buying it if it's a good product and how many just want a cheaper nVidia card no matter what.
 

Burty117

TechSpot Chancellor
Question is how many would actually consider buying it if it's a good product and how many just want a cheaper nVidia card no matter what.
If it's a proper contender to Nvidia, I'd happily get the AMD card. Just seems like they won't have anything again and if they do, it'll be out too late and Nvidia will have their next gen out.
 

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