Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 Benchmarked

[yeeeeman]

Great decision with the 3950x, yeah...already bottlenecked at 1080 with 2060 super! What a bad decision, but hey I guess its ok cause no one will care about comments here.
I am all for AMD, they are better value for money, they are very strong in MT workloads, but in gaming as pretty much everyone knows Intel is still best so what you're showing here is misleading from a few reasons:
- 3950x is a workstation cpu, not a mainstream gamer CPU, so the amount of people actually having this cpu and relating to this performance is very slim;
- 3950x is more expensive than even 10900K and 10900k offers better gaming results.
I guess from now on I will go and look for gaming benchmarks on hexus/guru3d.

 

[Eldritch]

The game is fine but just getting a Text display on screen stating that your plane is damaged was extremely underwhelming. Not just proper explosions (there are none) but even basic plane damage display is missing. I turned (yes just turned) my plane a bit too sharp and all I got was a text on a black screen. No smoke etc just a message and option to restart.

 

[thegasman]

VR
Microsoft have announced that VR will come to FS to coincide with the launch of the HP Reverb G2 HMD. While 30 fps may be acceptable on a screen (really?), 90 fps is widely regarded as the minimum to prevent nausea in VR. So we need 90 fps at 4K for this to work. Techspot have clearly shown that there is no hardware in existence now, or in the near future, that will come anywhere close to being able to deliver this.
Microsoft are going to need to do some serious optimisation here. How about starting with the 4 core limit? I mean come on Microsoft, it's 2020 and you're delivering the most technologically demanding game ever to come to PC and it only uses 4 cores?

 

[emmzo]

I wonder what hardware did MS use when testing this? I assume it worked smooth for them on ultra...

 

[KaitouX]

Great decision with the 3950x, yeah...already bottlenecked at 1080 with 2060 super! What a bad decision, but hey I guess its ok cause no one will care about comments here.
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I guess from now on I will go and look for gaming benchmarks on hexus/guru3d.

The 10900K isn't that different in this game.
Also funny that you mentioned Guru3D, because in their 1080p Ultra test the difference between the 2060 Super and 2080Ti is smaller than the one shown in the 1080p Ultra test here.

 

[mgcomm]

I'm really mad at this game, I tried to install the Gamepass version and every time I open the launcher, it crashes to the desktop with no error messages or anything. I can't even start downloading the game!

Had same problem - Try installing it through the Microsoft Store with the gamepass - Worked for me. Good luck

 

[mgcomm]

Great review but please also test with Intel....

 

[amghwk]

And so, those who buy the "best" graphics card money can buy, and keep boasting about it, continue to chase after games that make them run for more money... enjoy.

What's worse, is even after spending unnecessarily expensive money, the "ultimate" card still can't make it...

 

[Shadowboxer]

obviously since you own the hardware.

however for someone else looking in who would be deciding on a GPU purchase today. It doesn't really make sense to spend $1000+ on a GPU for one game.

People spend more than $1000 on a racing wheel for one racing game. Or even just flight controls for this game.

Yes not everyone’s doing it but it does make sense to do!

 

[MaxSmarties]

Considering the results, 4K playing with this generation of VGA is something to avoid. Curious about next gen...

 

[Lionvibez]

People spend more than $1000 on a racing wheel for one racing game. Or even just flight controls for this game.

Yes not everyone’s doing it but it does make sense to do!

The average price for a racing wheel is $300-$500. if someone goes the full custom route with chair etc then sure you will approach the $1000 price mark.

The price of a 2080ti is like $1500. And by the following year there is ready another gpu faster. That racing wheel setup you will probably be able to use 5-10 years after. After 5+ years that 2080ti will eventually turn into a midrange gpu then low end as they advance.

For you it may make sense for me it does not.

 

[Shadowboxer]

The average price for a racing wheel is $300-$500. if someone goes the full custom route with chair etc then sure you will approach the $1000 price mark.

The price of a 2080ti is like $1500. And by the following year there is ready another gpu faster. That racing wheel setup you will probably be able to use 5-10 years after. After 5+ years that 2080ti will eventually turn into a midrange gpu then low end as they advance.

For you it may make sense for me it does not.

Depends how much money you have really.

Check out peoples flight simulator builds on YouTube. The amount of effort and money people put into building multi monitor cockpits to play flight sim games is quite staggering. Same with racing games and actually the average price of a direct drive racing wheel is $1500, these are proper sim parts and not the plastic toy wheels you’re referring to. My brother purchased two monitors and flight controls at the cost of $1200 solely for elite dangerous when that launched.

I understand that you wouldn’t do it. But others do. Money is subjective, everyone has different income and outgoings. If you earn $25,000 a year then no it doesn’t make sense to spend $1500 on a single GPU for one game. But what if you earn over $100,000? there must be something ridiculous you would buy?

 

[udidwht]

I'm averaging a mix high-ultra settings 30-40fps with the following system...

Win 10 Pro 2004 19041.450
Core i7 3770K (stock clock)
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 (Award BIOS F10)
32GB G-Skill DDR3 1600mhz Trident X (CL7-8-8-24)
Asus RTX 2070 OC 8GB drivers 452.06
1TB Crucial MX 500 SSD
1TB RAW Mushkin SSD
1TB RAW Mushkin SSD
1TB RAW Mushkin SSD
LG Blue Ray DL
Antec 650w PSU
Rosewill Mid Tower Challenger
X56 HOTAS
TrackIR 5 Pro
Ttesports Commander Keyboard/Mouse combo
Samsung 24in LED curved monitor (1920x1080p)

 

[udidwht]

Depends how much money you have really.

Check out peoples flight simulator builds on YouTube. The amount of effort and money people put into building multi monitor cockpits to play flight sim games is quite staggering. Same with racing games and actually the average price of a direct drive racing wheel is $1500, these are proper sim parts and not the plastic toy wheels you’re referring to. My brother purchased two monitors and flight controls at the cost of $1200 solely for elite dangerous when that launched.

I understand that you wouldn’t do it. But others do. Money is subjective, everyone has different income and outgoings. If you earn $25,000 a year then no it doesn’t make sense to spend $1500 on a single GPU for one game. But what if you earn over $100,000? there must be something ridiculous you would buy?

If one made 25k per year it wouldn't make sense to even spend $1500.00.

 

[udidwht]

The game needs the DX12 api to solve a lot of performance issues to counter the need for big hardware upgrades. Except for 4K, that needs all you can give it!

Yep...

One being bottle-necked by the IPC and Ghz of ones processor. Everyone is. DX11 is limited in it’s multi-threading capability and generates too many draw calls that exceed any CPU in existence today. Even if it scaled to other threads, the main-thread is really the cause of your lower GPU usage. It is the case in P3D, XP11 and FSX. This has always been the #1 reason why frames are always lower in flight sims. You would think that P3D, as being a DX12 application, would fair better but the legacy ESP engine code is still way to single threaded focused. It’s very easy to see. Load a PMDG 777 in P3D. The frame will vary to 40-50FPS. Pause the sim and your frame will jump by almost 80%. This is because simulation code and draw calls are on the same thread and limited your CPU to drive your GPU.

This is not rocket science. Asobo needs to port their engine to a proper DX12 engine. (not like LM did) and implement DLSS. This is the only way we will ever get 60 fps in this sim. A RTX 3000 series will not help anyone. We need overall lower draw calls combined with spreading the load across enough threads that it doesn’t bottleneck the GPU. When you increase the render scale, all you are doing is loading higher resolution to your GPU (just like DSR), it doesn’t provide you more frames.

 

[scavengerspc]

Just a quick mention here make sure you have
AMD 20.8.2 or Nvidia 452.06 drivers.

Really helps.

 

[kiwigraeme]

Checked the planes available - no 737 max - maybe too hard to program to pretend it's a 737. I assume if you get a console setup and fly the Cessna 152 - you might be able to slip down to your local and take one for joyride.-if anyone does & survives let me know

 

[Bobbie1]

If people would spend $500 on Xbox for Halo or $400-$500 on PS4 for God of War, I see no reason why $1000 for MS Flight Sim would be out of the question.

and realistically, it'll actually run more like $2000 minimum which will quickly turn into $3000 - $4000.

A true Home Flight Sim, used by true pilots actually costs way more. This is more like a discount.

My problem is that the physics are unrealistic.

obviously since you own the hardware.

however for someone else looking in who would be deciding on a GPU purchase today. It doesn't really make sense to spend $1000+ on a GPU for one game.

Yep, the game is amazing but my PC is really struggling (older CPU, and GTX 1060) - upgrades across the board will cost thousands. Got me to think, I will just get an XBox Series X for a quarter the cost of an upgrade and run it at 4K Its efffectively a high end gaming PC.

 

[Angga B]

I heard that outside the ginormous map data streaming many of the ai computation for many of flight, weather mechanics and realtime 3d terrestrial generation also being done in cloud. I don't know but I am guessing, maybe, micro$oft's clusters of Azure server just couldn't keep up, yet. Because it does looks the CPU is heavily starving for more data.

 

[MaxSmarties]

Checked the planes available - no 737 max - maybe too hard to program to pretend it's a 737. I assume if you get a console setup and fly the Cessna 152 - you might be able to slip down to your local and take one for joyride.-if anyone does & survives let me know

The “real aircraft “, Gulfstream G550, is missing too...
But we are going to see many adds on in the future.

 

[Ludak021]

Remember when you had to argue with people about the need for the 2080Ti and 32GB of DDR4?

Well I guess those days are over huh?

On to CRYSIS: Remastered!!!

They are not over because of one game that no one* will play in 2 weeks when they figure out it is NOT a game but what the label on the tin says it is.

*sim lovers will play it for years but that is a very niche group.

 

[QuantumPhysics]

They are not over because of one game that no one* will play in 2 weeks when they figure out it is NOT a game but what the label on the tin says it is.

*sim lovers will play it for years but that is a very niche group.

Considering how many pilots have been furloughed and have been sitting at home with nothing to do, flight Sim gear has been seeing a rise in sales because they need it to keep the skills sharp. You’d be surprised how much money has been spent on flight sims lately.


High end parts help make VR gear easier to use.

 

[LukeGlover80]

And so, those who buy the "best" graphics card money can buy, and keep boasting about it......after spending unnecessarily expensive money, the "ultimate" card still can't make it...

While I agree it's ridiculous. Remember the 2080 ti is almost two years old now. It came out September 2018.

 

[LukeGlover80]

I'm curious how the rtx 3090 will do with this game lol I'm definitely not buying that graphics card, but I'm curious. 2080 ti is two years old so while it's not a massive amount of time, two years for graphics cards can make quite the difference! (I currently have an overclocked rtx 2070, not super, boosting to 1995mhz)

 

[nejc02]

Wonder how this will work on keyboard and mouse...