Microsoft is starting to force-update Windows 10 machines from version 1803 to 1903

What I hate about this is stupidity is that MS no longer let us download "service pack" like in the older windows version. when you are updating old PC with say 1511 version and you use the stupid windows update, it will update to next version before finally reaching 1903.

that doesn't seem like much for one or two PCs, but for a mass PC deployment which came with older win10 preinstalled that is definitely not fun at all.
 
nismo91 said:
but for a mass PC deployment which came with older win10 preinstalled that is definitely not fun at all.
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That is when you install using the latest build release. It is actually better than service pack. The frequency of the builds are annoying though.
 
treetops said:
That's around the time a windows 7 update nearly caused me to completely reinstall windows 7 on 2 computers. It was the update that broke under avg, avira etc. Lazisoft saved me from a windows reinstall. My updates are still broken on 2 machines.

I go to update, update fails, my cpu hits 100% until I fix it with lazesoft (permanent fix) or end windows update software through command prompt.(works until I reboot) My updates are not set to automatic, I spent to many hours trying to f with it. Reinstalling windows a few times a year is a pain in the ***!

I can't wait for a decent OS to replace windows. The only reason most people stick with it is because some programs do not work without it.
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You should check your current system health hardware and OS itself.. your current windows might have corrupt system files. That always happen to me before. After that every upgrade I check my system files before upgrade.
 
nismo91 said:
What I hate about this is stupidity is that MS no longer let us download "service pack" like in the older windows version. when you are updating old PC with say 1511 version and you use the stupid windows update, it will update to next version before finally reaching 1903.

that doesn't seem like much for one or two PCs, but for a mass PC deployment which came with older win10 preinstalled that is definitely not fun at all.
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You could not install a service pack without having all of the updates that predated it and this includes other service packs. This is much better than before, especially since the updates are fairly hands-free.
I worked during college as an IT assistant and trust me... windows updates were the bane of my life there. It does not compare to how easy and reliable they are today (yes, I said reliable).

People seem to be forgetting just how long updates took to install and how when checking for updates you would get nothing at all even though you knew for certain that you were very behind on updating the OS.
 
Don't do like I did recently. Moving the Windows partition at another place than the first partition or to make the partition too small for a major update installation.
No updates at all can be installed if Windows isn't on the first partition. (I was booting it thanks to Grub)
 
Congrats to all those who "upgraded" to 10. You no longer have control of your own computer. LOL

Forced upgrade? Gee, like they did to millions of people on Win7 who didn't want to upgrade.

I was forced to go to 10 at work. I purposely chose 1803 due to compatibility issues with their own software. Now they are going to break me managing their own software servers? LOL. Well, I guess we will find a 3rd party replacement and Microsoft is causing themselves to lose money. You can't make this stuff up. LOL
 
I would be happy to upgrade to 1903 if it actually worked. Instead, all I get are error messages and the blue screen of death. Thanks, Microsoft.
 
I have 1809 and haven't seen any push to update either. For those who use windows media center on windows 10, be warned: The 1903 update will break break WMC, and if you try to reinstall it, your computer will never boot back up and you will have to reinstall windows.
 
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I'm currently on 1809, and when they tried to update to 1903 it stalled after restarting. I had to get the tools console up and roll-back to 1809. Thankfully, that fixed the issue. I however do not want to update to 1903 again because of that. I've never had an update break so badly on any version of Windows. If you are gonna force these updates on us Microsoft, make sure they don't break people's PCs!

Seems that's what they get for getting rid of some of their senior programmers, as I've noticed more issues with updates since Microsoft let a bunch of employees go. Yeah, sure let's have the junior staff that is still wet behind the ears take care of our patches now for less money... That's always a GREAT idea...
 
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I have three of my PC's running Win 10 Pro. ALL have updates disabled via the Group Policy Editor since untold update troubles some time back (messing with screen resolution and vanishing display adaptor drivers, as an example). I hope MS doesn't find a way of by-passing the facility as it took me a long time to get things back to "normal". I refuse to update at present.
 
I should look into blocking this myself. I don't want to have my PC break, and have to reinstall Windows, just to have it update and break on me again.
 
Jmax001 said:
I should look into blocking this myself. I don't want to have my PC break, and have to reinstall Windows, just to have it update and break on me again.
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This use of the Group Policy Editor can only be done, I believe, on PRO versions. Don't think home version users have any say in the matter, other than the timing of the updates.
 
wiyosaya said:
From my experience, ShutUp10 just does not work on 10 home. Others have discovered this, too. The only thing that I have seen work reliably is on Pro with the group policy editor. I wrote this from a 10 Pro computer where I disabled updates with the Group Policy Editor, and according to Winver, its version 1703.

I have 10 home on my laptop. I only use it at home. I turned off updates with ShutUp10 and then used it on public WiFi. The next time I turned it on at home, it started updating - and I restored an image backup with a giant middle finger raised toward Redmond, WA.

This particular PC is never connected to my home network, and I have installed Linux for when I need to use it on public WiFi.

As I see it, this guise of security is a bunch of crap. The only thing that M$ is interested in doing is finding more ways to spy and monetize the resulting data.
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Interesting... I've used ShutUp10 for quite a while now, on Windows 10 Home, and not had these issues to my knowledge. Perhaps it's a placebo and I don't notice.
 
I've yet to hear anything good about 1903. But I have seen many complaints when it comes to gaming on 1903.
 
Polycount said:
Interesting... I've used ShutUp10 for quite a while now, on Windows 10 Home, and not had these issues to my knowledge. Perhaps it's a placebo and I don't notice.
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Is that PC on all the time? If so, try running Winver in a command prompt and see what it says. Maybe run it anyway and see what it says.

I was given a 10 Pro pc a while back, and I had to change several registry settings. Sometimes, I have to run the program that I work on overnight and/or over the weekend - and 10 was nicely rebooting my PC for me to apply updates even when I was logged on with my computer running a program. :facepalm:

For me, it was obvious that an update was in progress because when I turned it on after having connected to a public WiFi hot spot in a lack of internet at home crisis :laughing: it immediately started updating. I suspect that its unlikely that you would not have noticed an update had taken place.

I posted a few months back on TPU a comment about using ShutUp10 to kill updates and someone replied that it was not working for them. This was before I knew for sure it was not preventing updates on my laptop - as I rarely connect the laptop to the internet.

I can't speak to the condition of the person's PC who replied to my comment on TPU, however, the fact it did not work may be due to some of the things I tried on my laptop.

For one, I lacked an understanding of the proper way to get GPEdit on the PC and installed a copy that I got elsewhere. On top of that, I had disabled the services per my post here - https://www.techspot.com/community/...me-to-reboot-for-updates.248051/#post-1695440
I then re-enabled them after I set ShutUp10 - I think I rechecked the settings in ShutUp10 after re-enabling those services and they were set properly. So perhaps the fact it did not work, was due to my modifications, or maybe it was even due to my rarely connecting it to the internet. Honestly, I do not know.
 
One of my PC's can't update!
It's forever stuck on 1803.
Everytime I allow it or initialize update it always gives the message of
"update failed".
It appears to be permanently broken and that's ok with me.
I very seldom have that PC connected to the internet anyway.
The PC runs nothing but DAW software and it really doesn't need an internet connection, I use my other PC's for that.
I hate Microsoft almost as much as Trump!
 
Easiest way I've found to avoid NEARLY ALL Windows Update activity is to set your internet connection to metered.

It will stop OneDrive sync'ing automatically, and it'll stop Outlook connecting automatically, but that could be viewed as a positive. It'll also stop Windows thinking it can do what the funk it likes with your connection, including updates, lock screen wallpapers and the likes, which is DEFINITELY a positive.

I'm fairly sure it'll stop this force-update of Windows.
 
All very well for Microsoft to insist on the update but before they do this perhaps they should make their updates workforce everyone.

One of my machines refuses to update, it spends almost 24 hours churning away before it reaches about 98 percent complete then rolling back the update. Error 0cx00190001 (or something close), which tells me sweet nothing. That machine has been stripped back as far as I can take it, no additional hardware, all virus checkers and driver monitors removed but still the update fails.

I am on a limited internet connection, so I cannot afford to have windows decide to download the new version every time I turn the PC on.

So Microsoft, if you bother to listen to poor unwanted end users, how do I make the update work or maybe you recommend moving to windows 95!
 
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nismo91 said:
What I hate about this is stupidity is that MS no longer let us download "service pack" like in the older windows version. when you are updating old PC with say 1511 version and you use the stupid windows update, it will update to next version before finally reaching 1903.

that doesn't seem like much for one or two PCs, but for a mass PC deployment which came with older win10 preinstalled that is definitely not fun at all.
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You could not install a service pack without having all of the updates that predated it and this includes other service packs. This is much better than before, especially since the updates are fairly hands-free.
I worked during college as an IT assistant and trust me... windows updates were the bane of my life there. It does not compare to how easy and reliable they are today (yes, I said reliable).

People seem to be forgetting just how long updates took to install and how when checking for updates you would get nothing at all even though you knew for certain that you were very behind on updating the OS.
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that in some cases, having a service pack put a stop to the use of old build by major manufacturers. I received new hp laptop from work which has fairly new cpu but was shipped with first 1507 build.

also not being a service pack meant that I had to turn on windows update and let it update itself. I wish it's all fully automatic, but.. during some builds like 1703 and 1803 it stopped updating and said windows are updated. I had to restart and then click the update buttons probably hundreds of times before it went to the correct version.

funny thing is I never had this problem with my PC. so yeah I feel some of you who can't update win10 to the correct build.
 
PereriaTec said:
Actually 1903 is running really smooth and has fixed a whole host of problems. Too bad it won't just stay that way.
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For me as well. I've tried 1809 but I had some random crashes several times a week on my 10 years old core2duo rig. So I kept using Windows 8 for a bit longer. Since I installed 1903 as clean install (not over 1809) all is working perfectly, so I witched permanently to 10 at last. But I still prefer using MX Linux for basic usage. It's an amazing OS
 
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