Navy pilots describe encounter with unidentified aerial phenomena in new 60 Minutes segment

Shawn Knight

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Editor's take: A government report on data collected about unidentified aerial phenomena could be made public as early as next month. Details of the report aren't available yet but the scope of what could potentially be shared is wide-reaching. Are we dealing with some sort of advanced military technology, drone or spy plane from another country? Has someone figured out some sort of new, non-reactionary propulsion system that is truly beyond our current understanding of physics?

American news program 60 Minutes on Sunday aired a segment that takes a closer look at the topic of unidentified flying objects, or unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) as they are now purportedly referred to as.

The segment opens with Luis Elizondo, who claims he was asked in 2008 to join a Pentagon program called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). The program’s goal, according to Elizondo, was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles. When he took over the unit in 2010, he focused on national security implications and reports from US service members.

"Imagine a technology that can do 6-to-700 g-forces, that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that can evade radar and that can fly through air and water and possibly space. And oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing." - Luis Elizondo

60 Minutes also spoke with former Navy pilot Lieutenant Ryan Graves. He said his F/A-18F squadron started seeing UAPs over the airspace southeast of Virginia Beach in 2014 after their jets’ radars were upgraded. Graves said pilots training off the Atlantic coast would see unusual stuff “every day, at least for a couple of years.”

Graves said pilots believe it is one of three things: secret US technology, a spy vehicle from another country or something otherworldly.

Host Bill Whitaker also spoke with two naval aviators that claim to have encountered a UAP in 2004: David Fravor, who commanded the F/A-18F squadron on the USS Nimitz, and Lieutenant Alex Dietrich, who is talking about the encounter for the first time in public.

The incident in question reportedly took place in November 2004 after a nearby ship, the USS Princeton, had reported seeing “multiple anomalous aerial vehicles” on its new radar system that were able to descend 80,000 feet in less than a second. On November 14, Fravor and Dietrich, each with a weapons systems officer onboard, were sent out to investigate.

What they saw was an area of whitewater in what was described as an otherwise calm sea. Just above it was a Tac-Tac-shaped object about the size of an F/A-18F with no wings, no markings and no exhaust plume. As Dietrich circled above, Fravor went down for a closer look, and the object started climbing to meet him. When it got right in front of him, “it just disappears.”

“Disappears. Like, gone,” he said.

Impossibly enough, the USS Princeton was able to reacquire the target seconds later, 60 miles away. Another crew managed to lock onto what they believe was the same object briefly before it flew off again.

Once back on the ship, Dietrich told superiors about the encounter and the news spread like wildfire. Predictably, they became the butt of jokes. “They made cartoons. On the ship’s TV, they played Men in Black and Independence Day and Signs,” Dietrich said.

The New York Times is largely credited with bringing the topic to the forefront of mainstream media with its groundbreaking 2017 article on the matter. In 2020, the Department of Defense publicly released three videos (the ones from The Times), confirming they were authentic and that the contents observed in them remained unidentified.

Additional videos have leaked in recent months, which the Pentagon has confirmed were taken by Navy personnel.

The Senate Intelligence Committee requested a report on unidentified aerial phenomenon to be made public next month.

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noel24

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Seth Green eating a hamburger in front of Duchovny and Anderson will always stay in My memory. ;-)

And this cheap FX, by today's standards, of lights dancing in the sky, gave Me genuine chills.
That was like '93 and by That time movies like Star Wars were out and awsome, but those where practical effects and You could tell It. First XFiles melted My brain. Best on TV by that time.
 

VitalyT

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The green brothers are here to watch the new gig - coronavirus. They probably were the ones planted it.

 

texasrattler

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These have all been debunked, but that doesn't make for good clickbait.

Debunked by who? They have alrdy been confirmed authentic. Now whether aliens are involved is a separate thing all together. UFOs and Aliens get mixed together when a ufo means nothing other than what it suggests. A unidentified flying object. Does NOT mean Aliens are flying them unless there is some proof. Which there has been very little to none.
 
Well, there is a lot of "UFO" talk in the bible.
We know the moon landing was fake.
This video pretty much killed that lie lol.
Here is one.
What if Those ships are actually the angels/chariots of Israel, spoken of in the bible, and GOD himself is what we today would refer to as a "UFO"........
 

Dimitriid

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This checks all the marks: What's the most "Boomer" thing you can do on a dying show that goes on a dying medium that has it's core demographic of certified Boomers? Talk about UFOs as if it was the height of popularity 50 years ago.
 

brucek

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These have all been debunked, but that doesn't make for good clickbait.
As an outsider with only the grainy video to work from, it's easy to take potshots. But it misses the larger point that there are now too many instances where multiple independent pilots & sensor platforms all picked up corroborating sights & signals that can not yet be explained.

I'm not saying that means there's little green men. What it does mean is there are unexplained technologies or phenomenon either breaking rules of propulsion as we understand them, or perhaps they are intended attacks that spoof these systems into return unreliable readings. Either way as they are regularly showing up in strategic areas we need and expect to have air control over (I.e., carrier groups, nuclear facilities) it is a legitimate topic that needs to be investigated and resolved.

As a technology enthusiast, I'm pretty convinced there is something new to learn here even if it has nothing to do with visitors from outer space.
 

ziffel66

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The fact these are seen almost all in restricted airspace tells me they are very likely human created tech testing boundaries. it is very tempting to ascribe them to alien sources, but alien visitation would all but require FTL travel, as the closest star is 4 *years* away even at the speed of light.
 

texasrattler

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The fact these are seen almost all in restricted airspace tells me they are very likely human created tech testing boundaries. it is very tempting to ascribe them to alien sources, but alien visitation would all but require FTL travel, as the closest star is 4 *years* away even at the speed of light.
If this is human tech and we can go from 0 to 80,000 ft drop in seconds then as species we have gone further than the moon.
But if everything is either "fake" as some call it or just human tech. Why is that NASAs own cameras have caught stuff that can't be explained properly or that in '88/'89, that during a space shuttle mission the actual recorded audio was, there is a alien spacecraft trailing us. As those pilots are very well trained and if it was Russia, China or any other foreign country you wouldn't say alien spacecraft unless that is exactly what you saw. Also why would you call it that us unless you have seen or know about it. Think about that.
 

mbk34

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It's a shame we can't provide feedback on articles. This would get 1 star out of 5 from me. Having this sort of drivel on Techspot just degrades the whole site and undermines the respect that people have for the site in general.
 

JamesBlond

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Yea, camera's on fighter jets now days cost $20, but on phones $200 because they know, nobody on the planet will be able to film an alien spaceship flying around with it.... complete BS story, more liars than the moon landing... let's make a documentary about crap so that people will believe we need to make friends with aliens and the tax man has to pay for it... I can smell BS from 1000miles away, this one smells like its 2 feet from me, it smells really bad
 

Angga B

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The alien seems to have proclivity to troll around the military who has world's best equipment to track and identify any potential object or threat. This could only mean you are screwed hard.

If they were actually Russian's then you are simply doubly screwed. You're hopeless. Better throw that white towel now.
 

fl21289

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Listen to the Joe Rogan podcast where he has someone talking about these things and how CIA have always known and stuff. If it's real or not, it's still a very interesting subject.
 

Kirby1

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Debunked by who? They have alrdy been confirmed authentic. Now whether aliens are involved is a separate thing all together. UFOs and Aliens get mixed together when a ufo means nothing other than what it suggests. A unidentified flying object. Does NOT mean Aliens are flying them unless there is some proof. Which there has been very little to none.
By the guy in the video I linked, stupid. He's an expert.
 

Avro Arrow

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I officially name it, "The Borg Sphere". I just hope that it doesn't actually look like this:
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