Is there anyone thinking on air / water coolers for 600w? We gonna need 6 fan coolers or tripple blower. Personally I think they should limit the max to 300w hard cap per card and create more efficient GPU
Because of people like you there are people like them.If I have to plug my 4090 FTW3 or 4090 Kingpin right up to the fuse box in my basement, so be it.
4. Too many fools with more money than sense? (actually that's not a question)
No, Nvidia is making graphics cards for people who are affluent enough to buy, who are stupid enough to think they need. The heat is just a byproduct.600W? So a LITERAL space heater. Nvidia's now making appliances that can also render graphics. XD
Realistic TDP for 3090 is closer to 400W - https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-N...t-it-can-consume-nearly-60-more.494757.0.htmlEnergy efficiency is relative to output performance. The thermals bang for buck is what exactly?
1080Ti 11.3 TFlops at 250W TDP.
3090 is 35.6 TFlops at 350W TDP.
I think it's pretty obvious that the efficiency between generations has massively improved. They are making larger dies because they can and people want the perf.
That's other editions not reference design. Of course you can increase the TDP if you boost the clock rates...Realistic TDP for 3090 is closer to 400W - https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-N...t-it-can-consume-nearly-60-more.494757.0.html
Yep there's literally far greater efficiency per watt in the generational improvements. People pick the power limit and budget you want to stick with.Most people don't like limitations based on arbitrary numbers. Why not 75W? Why not 750W? Just buy the 300W GPU if that's what you want.
You don't?I don't understand comments like this. People spend their money on things they need and things they want How does someone spending their money on something they want make them a fool? If someone spent their rent money on a video card that would be foolish, but someone spending their excess money on something they want isn't foolish.
You shouldn't expect people you don't know to run their purchases past you to make sure it's okay before spending their money on something they want.
Even with other designs I think your point still checked out. A 40% (or 60%) increase in TDP still results in a 315% increase in performance... albeit at a 215% price premium (at original MSRP).That's other editions not reference design. Of course you can increase the TDP if you boost the clock rates...
Pretty much where I'm at. I'd like to see a simplification of cable management inside cases, so having a single "beefier" cable for the GPU instead of two or three cables seems like a win to me.Do I want a 600w gpu? No.
Do I want a power connection capable of providing as much power as il ever use or consider using so I never have worry about the cord being a bottleneck? Yup, don't see a problem.
Exactly what is wrong with our highly divided civilisation.LOL so many people salty over bigger GPUs. If it angers you so much then buy a laptop TDP GPU and be happy, or go outside and touch grass.
Nobody in the high end gives a rat's arse about "muh efficiency". Also power draw /=/ efficiency, if a 600w GPU does 3x the work of a 400w GPU then the 600W model is far more efficient.
What happens the moment I have an EV and solar gen? And I can load shift and sustain my household and my video card?Exactly what is wrong with our highly divided civilisation.
20% of the people, consuming 80% of the resources, or smth like that.
The only question I have, is after you buy and EV, a solar panel array large enough to power your household, along with a battery pack for overnight, would you actually have enough money left to buy a buy a GTX-3090 ti?What happens the moment I have an EV and solar gen? And I can load shift and sustain my household and my video card?
You feel the same way about anyone who buys a really expensive car, house, boat, etc?You don't?
Here's the breakdown: only a fool with more money than sense will pay stupid amounts of money, aka double the price (of a 3080 for example) for +10% more performance for a 3090 and in this case 3090 Ti (which will be +15% for 3x money).
Get it now? That's the "fool" part, because it's a waste of money.
Actually no, I don't feel the same way about those who buy expensive cars, houses, boats and other stuff.You feel the same way about anyone who buys a really expensive car, house, boat, etc?
Personally I like that people buy extremely expensive bleeding edge tech so more money is spent on R&D and in a year or two I benefit
That's just not how economics works. I get it. The GPU market has very little competition. Prices are high because the barrier of entry is astronomical. That doesn't mean that people buying highend SKUs are going to encourage nvidia to rise the price of all SKUs. They are already charging as much on every product that they believe they can. They will continue to do so. Hopefully Intel will at some point make a product credible enough to tamp down prices a betActually no, I don't feel the same way about those who buy expensive cars, houses, boats and other stuff.
You know why? Because it does not directly affect me, or at all even.
But when these "more money than sense" guys buy these ridiculous GPUs 2x, 3x price for 10% performance they confirm and encourage companies to become more scummy and scummy, so next gen GPUs are more expensive across the board, all tiers.
They affect the low and mid tiers GPUs as much as the halo tier, and that's the *****-up part and the part that I don't like. And I'm not alone in this since the low and mid tiers GPUs represent actually the bulk of sales and gamers.
Someone buying a Ferrari does not affect me buying a VW Passat (for example), but those that pay unreasonable prices for those halo GPU do. A lot.
You're gonna be in for a surprise next gen it seems...That's just not how economics works. I get it. The GPU market has very little competition. Prices are high because the barrier of entry is astronomical. That doesn't mean that people buying highend SKUs are going to encourage nvidia to rise the price of all SKUs. They are already charging as much on every product that they believe they can. They will continue to do so. Hopefully Intel will at some point make a product credible enough to tamp down prices a bet
I don't disagree with you that prices are going to continue to rise. I'm saying the failure of a flagship SKU isn't going to keep prices from rising across the board on products that are selling out at retail.Wait and see Lovelace and RDNA3 having the top GPUs at at least $2000 MSRP and then every all the lower tiers more expensive accordingly