Nvidia and AMD's next gaming GPUs could be delayed until 2028, because AI pays better

[dmoros]

I mean video game graphics have plateaued, there are games that look 10% better than 5 years ago but require 50% pmore power to achieve that small improvement, and many graphic options you turn them down from Ultra to high or sometime even medium and you se very little visual difference but a huge increase in performance.

So its time we work on software instead of bruteforcing with hardware

 

[Puiu]

I mean video game graphics have plateaued, there are games that look 10% better than 5 years ago but require 50% pmore power to achieve that small improvement, and many graphic options you turn them down from Ultra to high or sometime even medium and you se very little visual difference but a huge increase in performance.

So its time we work on software instead of bruteforcing with hardware

Replace that 50% with 500%

 

[OortCloud]

Wow the AI singularity will have enslaved us all and we'll all be sucking pulp through a straw in the battery farm before they release the next gen graphics cards.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Yeah, the fact we're at the point where some games can't run on a bloody 1080Ti tells you that the industry has lost the plot.

Yeah, the fact we were at the point in 2017 where some games couldn't run on a bloody 8800 GTX tells you that the industry already lost the plot.

 

[OortCloud]

I'm actually fine with this. Game developers need to stop just throwing in fancy graphics instead of competing on gameplay. This will slow development down so you could buy a GPU today and expect it to last a good while.

It's like Epic might have to actually start working on optimizing UE5

I agree and also game studios might have to invest in some new and interesting game ideas rather than rehashing old ideas or worse endless re-releases just with a new paint job. (although a proper re-release of Tie Fighter would be ok before you stop completely! )

 

[gamerk2]

So why is the 1080ti the arbitrary baseline? Why not the 980ti, or the 8800gtx? The gtx 285? Riva tnt2?

The 1080ti is a decade old now. Yeah, new stuff won't run on it well, that's not a slight against developers. That's called progress.

Performance wise, the 1080Ti is still *fine* performance wise. It's not supported nowadays because of features that 99% of people don't use that developers are mandating.

 

[gamerk2]

Yeah, the fact we were at the point in 2017 where some games couldn't run on a bloody 8800 GTX tells you that the industry already lost the plot.

9 generates of GPUs versus 4. And that's treating the 9xxx and 2xx series as not just refreshes of the 8xxx series.

 

[Lew Zealand]

9 generates of GPUs versus 4. And that's treating the 9xxx and 2xx series as not just refreshes of the 8xxx series.

8000 - Tesla
400 - Fermi
600 - Kepler
7/900 - Maxwell
1000 - Pascal

1000 - Pascal
16/2000 - Turing
3000 - Ampere
4000 - Ada
5000 - Blackwell

5 gens each, or 4 new gens if you prefer. Refreshes used to be given a separate numbering, now it's done with "Super" or occasionally "Ti" so the big change is just semantics.

 

[yRaz]

I agree and also game studios might have to invest in some new and interesting game ideas rather than rehashing old ideas or worse endless re-releases just with a new paint job. (although a proper re-release of Tie Fighter would be ok before you stop completely! )

There are so many games that I would settle for a simple recompile with widescreen support and love to play again.

My next new game purchase will be TES6. My last 4 purchases were 40k Rouge Trader, BGS3, cyberpunk 2077 and then fallout 4. I do have hundreds of unplayed games in my steam library that will run perfectly at 4k120 on my 6700xt. I do think I'm probably going to buy a 9070xt here soon in preparation for TES6.

But the biggest problem about modern games is that I feel like they don't respect my time and no amount of UE5 can fix that

 

[OortCloud]

There are so many games that I would settle for a simple recompile with widescreen support and love to play again.

My next new game purchase will be TES6. My last 4 purchases were 40k Rouge Trader, BGS3, cyberpunk 2077 and then fallout 4. I do have hundreds of unplayed games in my steam library that will run perfectly at 4k120 on my 6700xt. I do think I'm probably going to buy a 9070xt here soon in preparation for TES6.

But the biggest problem about modern games is that I feel like they don't respect my time and no amount of UE5 can fix that

I think AI will make rehashes of old games almost something you could do yourself soon, so the recompile might be possible, It's exactly the sort of thing these LLMs excel at (rather than trying to pretend to be your best mate in a call centre).

 

[Theinsanegamer]

Performance wise, the 1080Ti is still *fine* performance wise. It's not supported nowadays because of features that 99% of people don't use that developers are mandating.

And why is the 1080ti performance wise *fine*, but a GTX 8800 ultra isnt? Or a GTX 285? Or any other card I could name?

Yeah, the fact we were at the point in 2017 where some games couldn't run on a bloody 8800 GTX tells you that the industry already lost the plot.

And why is the GTX 8800 the arbitrary baseline? Why not the geforce 4 ti 4600?

 

[Lew Zealand]

And why is the GTX 8800 the arbitrary baseline? Why not the geforce 4 ti 4600?

I just went another 9.5 years back to mimic going back 9.5 years to the 1080 Ti. Happened to end up being the 8800 GTX.

 

[loki1944]

I really don't care as much by far about new GPUs; I care more about developers optimizing their games properly so you don't need money to brute force their lack of quality control. I would take Destiny 2 2017/GTA 5 2015/Dishonored 2/MGS 5/COD Cold War/Payday 2/Vermintide 2/Red Dead Redemption 2 etc. over any of these assembly line unoptimized UE5 games. The real metric for a game should be gameplay over graphics; and to be honest Ray Tracing looks more like vaseline everyhere than realism.

 

[bclaymiles]

In other breaking news, the sky is blue and water is wet.

 

[hay fizzy]

Only thing that will slow down Ai is the Oil Shortage, the speed of building nuclear power plants and water, China builds more nuclear capacity than the rest of the world and with the 3 gorges dam they will not run short of water. They're developing their own hardware so they will not be affected by sanctions.