Nvidia launches "Restocked & Reloaded" campaign with RTX 30 availability

McMurdeR

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They've been available in Europe at or around these prices for a couple of weeks now.

Talk about cynical timing! This could be a marketing drive to clear 3000 series inventory and maintain pricing levels before the mining community inevitably offload their 3000 series stock on the second hand market. Nvidia and AMD have a clear interest in keeping prices as high as possible before their next gen products arrive on the shelves. Be very careful buying a GPU now..
 

Aceseven

Posts: 315   +398
I dont even think they make 3060's or 3070's, havent seen either at a store in forever.

it's the high end or bust now.
 

mcclurken

Posts: 14   +42
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The GPU companies happily sold their lots to miners and scalpers and now that the scene is quickly drying up they come crawling back. Funny how I'm just not that eager to buy anything now. I succumbed to an overpriced 6800XT last year and through driver/app updates the performance is significantly improving to the point that I'm happy to wait until next gen. Nvidia was my preferred option due to better VR compatibility in FS2k20 but between the better AMD performance and schadenfreude I'm pulling a Nelson laugh inside "har har!". I hope Nvidia ends up with so much extra inventory it affects their stock price. No, I'm not bitter. really!
 

yannus

Posts: 53   +43
"Unfortunately, there aren't that many cards under the $1,000 mark." this is exactly how Nvidia treats the average consumer.
It looks like a conspiracy, there is no middle GPU class anymore, take the $1000 card or go for a console.
It doesn't look like a conspiracy, it is a conspiracy.
Covid->prices going up
mining-> prices going up
scalping -> pricing going up
ukraine-> prices going up
global warming -> taxes
global warming -> green energy -> prices going up
global warming -> electric cars -> prices going up
suez canal obstruction-> prices going up
In the last two years, every event has been a weapon for inflation (not just graphics cards, also food, cars, gasoline..). As the the WEF says : "2030, you'll own nothing, you'll be happy"... Living in a poor country, I can confirm that poor people are happier but hungrier.
 

Kirby1

Posts: 162   +264
Nvidia can get ****ed. If they wanted to sell to gamers, they could have figured out a better way to do that.
 

Dimitriid

Posts: 2,201   +4,234
It doesn't look like a conspiracy, it is a conspiracy.
Covid->prices going up
mining-> prices going up
scalping -> pricing going up
ukraine-> prices going up
global warming -> taxes
global warming -> green energy -> prices going up
global warming -> electric cars -> prices going up
suez canal obstruction-> prices going up
In the last two years, every event has been a weapon for inflation (not just graphics cards, also food, cars, gasoline..). As the the WEF says : "2030, you'll own nothing, you'll be happy"... Living in a poor country, I can confirm that poor people are happier but hungrier.
You realize it is possible for all this list of grievances to be truth and *NOT* a sign of an overt conspiracy or shadow group organizing right?

Because well, that's just capitalism: it doesn't needs explicit organization and elite of conspirators if everybody is just doing the same thing: profiting from any and every situation that might disrupt the free market either way.

If this is not what you were going for, fine forget I said anything but I've seen where the logic when people start thinking it's not just Capitalism and is instead some evil conspiracy and it doesn't ends up well.
 

NeoMorpheus

Posts: 1,121   +2,238
Nvidia can get ****ed. If they wanted to sell to gamers, they could have figured out a better way to do that.


Gamers: I want one gpu at a reasonable msrp.
Nvidia: yes, let me check the back.

Miners: I want a truck of tripled priced gpus.

Nvidia: my man, your loaded truck its on its way!

And for the drones, AMD didnt close their store which has gpus at msrp, yet nvidia did.
 
Just BS! Here the prices of "Restocked & Reloaded" BS "campaign" for a
ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 12GB TUF Gaming OC V2 is 1324 US DOLLARS. RIPOFF

392 US DOLLARS for the shitty ASUS GeForce RTX 3050 Dual OC. ¤#&%¤/#/&%/#%/&¤%(%"#/
 

Usukosej

Posts: 183   +82
If nVidia are really serious, they should make FE cards available at msrp in volume and in most important markets.

Would still love to get a 3060 Ti FE for €399, could not care less for 3080Ti and 3090Ti being a available for sky high prices. Thats non-news for me.
Why are you compairing a 3060 Ti at MSRP with 3080 Ti at inflated pricing tho.

Do you want a 3080 Ti for MSRP considering RTX 4000 series are less than 6 months away?

I got 3080 on release for 699 dollars, sold it for 1500 about 9 months later and picked up a 3080 Ti for 1449 :joy: Best value I have ever had in my 25+ years of building PCs. 3080 Ti for 650 dollars.

I will go RTX 4070/4080 when they come out.
 

Beerfloat

Posts: 506   +964
Things do seem to be getting better and better. I just picked up a 3080TI for $1350. No ordering or waiting, just walk into store and pick one. Same store where I got a 3060 just the other day.

It's buttery smooth but hope 4080 comes soon to add to the collection.
 

Irata

Posts: 2,102   +3,625
Why are you compairing a 3060 Ti at MSRP with 3080 Ti at inflated pricing tho.

Do you want a 3080 Ti for MSRP considering RTX 4000 series are less than 6 months away?

I got 3080 on release for 699 dollars, sold it for 1500 about 9 months later and picked up a 3080 Ti for 1449 :joy: Best value I have ever had in my 25+ years of building PCs. 3080 Ti for 650 dollars.

I will go RTX 4070/4080 when they come out.
I explicitly said that I neither care about nor want a 3080Ti. What I would want (and I tried getting one at launch) is a 3060Ti at msrp, but I doubt that this will every happen before it‘s EOL.

Someone getting a current gen graphics card at msrp certainly made a good deal. Not arguing that.
 

Usukosej

Posts: 183   +82
I explicitly said that I neither care about nor want a 3080Ti. What I would want (and I tried getting one at launch) is a 3060Ti at msrp, but I doubt that this will every happen before it‘s EOL.

Someone getting a current gen graphics card at msrp certainly made a good deal. Not arguing that.

You said you wanted a 3060 Ti if they were priced at MSRP.

I simply asked, what about if 3080 Ti was priced at MSRP too.

If 3060 Ti is priced at MSRP, chance is that 3080 Ti is too.
 

Irata

Posts: 2,102   +3,625
You said you wanted a 3060 Ti if they were priced at MSRP.

I simply asked, what about if 3080 Ti was priced at MSRP too.

If 3060 Ti is priced at MSRP, chance is that 3080 Ti is too.
Let me see - I really want a $400 1440p card, so no, I‘m definitely not interested in a 3080Ti even if it were to sell at $1199.

Never mind that this would require getting a stronger PSU, an even better screen, improved case cooling….nope, not worth it for me.
 

yannus

Posts: 53   +43
You realize it is possible for all this list of grievances to be truth and *NOT* a sign of an overt conspiracy or shadow group organizing right?

Because well, that's just capitalism: it doesn't needs explicit organization and elite of conspirators if everybody is just doing the same thing: profiting from any and every situation that might disrupt the free market either way.

If this is not what you were going for, fine forget I said anything but I've seen where the logic when people start thinking it's not just Capitalism and is instead some evil conspiracy and it doesn't ends up well.
I understand what you mean, the problem is that if it were only capitalism, there would be competition that would naturally compensate anything like you describe. Moreover there is just the fact that the conspiracy is not really a conspiracy as it has been openly proclamed by the WEF and others in their "prophecies" or plans.
 

Usukosej

Posts: 183   +82
Let me see - I really want a $400 1440p card, so no, I‘m definitely not interested in a 3080Ti even if it were to sell at $1199.

Never mind that this would require getting a stronger PSU, an even better screen, improved case cooling….nope, not worth it for me.
I understand. I would go for a 3070 if I was you, or "4060" if you can wait 6 months (or get a second hand 3000 series by then).

3070 is 12% faster than 3060 Ti on average in 1440p and have almost identical power usage.

If you only want Founders Edition, you probably never will get one tho.

GA102 based cards simply use ALOT more watts, so 3060 Ti and 3070 have crazy good performance/watt compared to 3080/3090 series.

My 3080 Ti uses twice the power of my 3070 :joy:

Actually 3060Ti/3070 and Radeon 6800 has crazy good performance per watt.
3070 Ti not included because of GDDR6X which ramps power to 300+ watts while increasing performance by a few percent, compared to 3070, in 1440p.

If you are lucky to find a good deal second hand 3080, remember that you can undervolt most cards like crazy (yeah you will loose performance but often, not much). A friend of mine undervolted / underclocked his 3080 to 250 watts. Lost 5% performance compared to stock but still worth it if you care about power/noise/temps.
 

Dimitriid

Posts: 2,201   +4,234
I understand what you mean, the problem is that if it were only capitalism, there would be competition that would naturally compensate anything like you describe
No it would not: Capitalism and competition doesn't works, has never work and will never work. That's capitalist rhetoric and I am sure 90% of people reading honestly believe the market will address itself but the fundamental market incentive is to eliminate competition because that's the best way to increase profits so the tendency has always been towards monopolies or otherwise very widespread consolidation.
 

yannus

Posts: 53   +43
No it would not: Capitalism and competition doesn't works, has never work and will never work. That's capitalist rhetoric and I am sure 90% of people reading honestly believe the market will address itself but the fundamental market incentive is to eliminate competition because that's the best way to increase profits so the tendency has always been towards monopolies or otherwise very widespread consolidation.
What you describe is a conspiracy (A secret agreement to do something harmful or unlawful.);)
 

Dimitriid

Posts: 2,201   +4,234
What you describe is a conspiracy (A secret agreement to do something harmful or unlawful.);)
It's not a secret is something all capitalists openly admit doing. They even teach it in business schools and it's not subtle: all modern MBAs will tell you that if a business is not growing then it's not upholding their moral responsability to their share holders. It sounds innocuous at best and most will try to keep the conversation within that "moral responsibility" framework but the direct consequence is that eventually there will be no place to expand other than absorbing competitors, branching out into other industries, and then absorbing those competitors as well, and so on.

And it also it isn't automatically unlawful either: huge conglomerates and large acquisitions might invite some scrutiny sure, but they do happen and are legally sanctioned by huge States.

I do agree that it's incredibly harmful, but again it's not secret and it's not illegal is just what capitalists call "Doing business"
 

yannus

Posts: 53   +43
It's not a secret is something all capitalists openly admit doing. They even teach it in business schools and it's not subtle: all modern MBAs will tell you that if a business is not growing then it's not upholding their moral responsability to their share holders. It sounds innocuous at best and most will try to keep the conversation within that "moral responsibility" framework but the direct consequence is that eventually there will be no place to expand other than absorbing competitors, branching out into other industries, and then absorbing those competitors as well, and so on.

And it also it isn't automatically unlawful either: huge conglomerates and large acquisitions might invite some scrutiny sure, but they do happen and are legally sanctioned by huge States.

I do agree that it's incredibly harmful, but again it's not secret and it's not illegal is just what capitalists call "Doing business"
The famous "Embrace, extend , and extinguish" shows clearly how secret it is. About legality, justice courts and governments just don't do their job. Intel, Microsoft, Google, Amazon and so many more just demonstrate how antitrust laws are not applied or useless for their purpose.
 

Dimitriid

Posts: 2,201   +4,234
The famous "Embrace, extend , and extinguish" shows clearly how secret it is. About legality, justice courts and governments just don't do their job. Intel, Microsoft, Google, Amazon and so many more just demonstrate how antitrust laws are not applied or useless for their purpose.
Again those are court cases, open lobbying, a direct quote from Microsoft's internal communication. That's just not a conspiracy it's out in the open. Sorry but the reason I must insist on this point is because to think there's a conspiracy of elites to secretly collude to control comes directly from and leads to one ugly truth: Antisemitism.

So no I would never concede this point: there is no conspiracy it's just open capitalism and to try and imply anything about a globalist secret organization is a huge distraction that serves no purpose that to diffuse legitimate political discourse that opposes Capitalism as a system of government and not as a secret conspiracy of Satanic Lizard People that are also secretly Jewish because trust me: It always ends there.