Nvidia's RTX 3090 may have outsold the entire Radeon RX 6000 series combined

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AMD fanboys will be in denial and claim Steam HW Survey is useless.

Yet 3DMark Database shows the same result. Tons of Ampere scores has been submitted since release, very few RNDA2 / Radeon 6000 scores.

If you are still in doubt, go to Newegg, Amazon or any big online store and check the bestsellers in the GPU category; Ampere all over.

Radeon 6000 is not "bad" - AMD simply can't deliver and prices are way too high. Not many people will even consider getting an AMD GPU if price is not way lower than Nvidia, and right now, it's not.

Nvidia made a smart decision by going with Samsung for 3000 series. Samsung has been spitting chips out left and right, while AMD has been waiting for TSMC. TSMC has been overbooked and still is. TSMC will always prioritize Apple, their best customer and longtime partner.
AMD fanboys will be in denial and claim Steam HW Survey is useless.

Yet 3DMark Database shows the same result. Tons of Ampere scores has been submitted since release, very few RNDA2 / Radeon 6000 scores.

If you are still in doubt, go to Newegg, Amazon or any big online store and check the bestsellers in the GPU category; Ampere all over.

Radeon 6000 is not "bad" - AMD simply can't deliver and prices are way too high. Not many people will even consider getting an AMD GPU if price is not way lower than Nvidia, and right now, it's not.

Nvidia made a smart decision by going with Samsung for 3000 series. Samsung has been spitting chips out left and right, while AMD has been waiting for TSMC. TSMC has been overbooked and still is. TSMC will always prioritize Apple, their best customer and longtime partner.

I owned a nvidia card all the way to a 2060GTX when I was persuaded by the lady to give her my card and get a new one. Listening to AMD fanboys I bought a AMD card. PowerColor 5700XT. The card is complete junk. Learned later due to loose quality standards of AMD, PowerColor put not so good memory chips on my card. Affecting overclocking etc. Nothing was attainable that was stable. Black screens, driver timeouts. Driver after driver, same thing. A highlighter on "know issues" with AMD drivers. Never ever resolved. To this day, I get constant black screens, even playing a bloody solitare game. When I was on nVidia NEVER had any of this. Never. I bought the lowest priced 2060GTX as well. Skimp on memory? Nope. I can't say how many reports I have sent to AMD and have never seen resolution or any technical article on how to resolve. AMD is garbage, cheap garbage and they don't hold even a flicker of a candle to Nvidia. Unfortunately I'm stuck with this POS until I can get my hands on a 3xxx series Nvidia card. I will say the complete opposite for their CPU's.. they are quality. Just their video card line is a complete joke. The fact they said "We don't care if you mine" just shows how desperate AMD is to sell their cards. At least Nvidia put in some sort of effort to block bitcoin mining. ATI was always junk.. in the early days, why I switched to 3DFX and then Nvidia.

Nvidia is and has been laughing at AMD for a long time and I learned that I will NEVER be persuaded by others to choose other than the best cards on the market. Nvidia. I personally can't wait. When prices become realistic I'll be back to them. 100% guarantee.
 

duckofdeath

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Nobody here is not denying that Ampere sells more than RDNA2.

However since Nvidia vs AMD sell ratio is usually 4:1 on discrete cards and around 1:1 overall, claiming 11:1 ratio needs much better proof than bugged Steam survey.

Any proof that TSMC took orders they couldn't deliver? No. They simply tell they could not take more orders. Too bad for those who want chips but they could buy elsewhere. Simple as that.
Any proof? Reality?

The fact that Nvidia has sold more overpriced RTX 3090s than AMD has sold GPUs? I don't know why you're so hellbent on defending a lowlife company like TSMC. They alone are responsible to tell customers what they can buy. Not the other way around. They know exactly how many wafers they can produce in a year and a non-con artist company would have been honest about this instead of hording all the orders.
 

wildkat

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This is no longer an availability issue. My local Microcenter has had the full line of AMD cards in stock almost continuously for close to three months. You can walk in right now and buy any 6xxx series card you want. No lottery, no waiting, grab and go. Nvidia cards sell out within 24 hours. They briefly had some 1050ti for $300 and they sold out while AMD cards sit. A 5 year old low end card selling at twice MSRP is out the door while current generation is gathering dust. Best Buy is now selling AMD cards online. Its the first time in over a year they have had any online availability. My local Best Buy has the full line of AMD cards but like Microcenter, the Nvidia cards never last more than a day. People are walking out without a GPU rather than buy AMD.

And before you accuse me of being an Nvidia fan boi, I have a 5700XT in my main gamer, a 580 in my daily driver and a 570 in my retro gamer. I like AMD GPUs but the 6xxx are over priced and under powered. They are going to destroy all the progress they made with AIBs and be back to Sapphire and XFX being the only third party builders.
 

HardReset

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At least Nvidia put in some sort of effort to block bitcoin mining.
Yeah right https://www.techspot.com/news/88928-nvidia-beta-driver-removes-geforce-rtx-3060-crypto.html

Pure PR stunt, nothing else.

Any proof? Reality?

The fact that Nvidia has sold more overpriced RTX 3090s than AMD has sold GPUs?
According to what? Same BS survey that claims AMD's third most popular card is Radeon HD 8800? 🤦‍♂️

Start learning what's fact and what's not.
I don't know why you're so hellbent on defending a lowlife company like TSMC. They alone are responsible to tell customers what they can buy. Not the other way around. They know exactly how many wafers they can produce in a year and a non-con artist company would have been honest about this instead of hording all the orders.
How about providing at least single proof for your claims. TSMC 7nm line is running on full capacity. Give me even single reason why TSMC should take any orders OVER that full capacity for certain time frame? No, cancelled orders are not problem because AMD, Sony, Microsoft etc gladly take all extra capacity they can get.

It's just, if any customer wants to produce something on TSMC's fully booked production lines, they simply are told to either wait until lines are not fully booked or go somewhere else. Like where?

Exactly.
 

Avro Arrow

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Yeah you're right I'm being bribed. Bribed to make comments on a TS article. You gotta be kidding me lmao.
I didn't get that idea from his post at all. You're just reacting in an emotional and childish way, pretending to be the victim here. Let's look again at his post, shall we?
I saw the same thing at my local MC.

Given that and what they posted and then retracted, I would say that they are simply fueling the nvidia hype or worse, they are getting bribed by nvidia.

Honestly, nothing really surprises me anymore.
Now, what I believe that a rational person would glean from this is that someone is fueling the media hype with the outside chance that they're being bribed by nVidia to do so. Your reaction of throwing all of your toys out of the pram and pouting by picking out one thing and trying to victimise yourself with it doesn't do you any favours here. Also, I don't see your name anywhere in his post.

Your reaction would indicate that you are, in fact, the one who posted and then deleted the post so here's an idea, how about you explain why you posted something and then retracted it? Such a thing always looks bad, like a deleted tweet.

I don't think that anyone here believes that a bribe occurred. Well, there are always the intellectually incompetent but who cares what they (don't) think? In any case, it did fuel the nVidia hype and I don't think that's an unreasonable position. In all my time here, I've never seen NeoMorpheus seriously take an unreasonable position. The sentence about the bribe has something called "a subtext" and was used to make the first idea stronger by being hyperbolic.

I'll say the silent part in parenthesis so that you'll understand it better:
Given that and what they posted and then retracted, I would say that they are simply fueling the nvidia hype or worse, they are getting bribed by nvidia.
(They're of course not being bribed by nVidia which only strengthens the idea that they're simply fueling the nVidia hype.)

That's what I got from his post. Not once did it cross my mind that anyone was being bribed and I don't think that NeoMorpheus would post such a silly idea as serious.
 
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Bawlsdeep

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I owned a nvidia card all the way to a 2060GTX when I was persuaded by the lady to give her my card and get a new one. Listening to AMD fanboys I bought a AMD card. PowerColor 5700XT. The card is complete junk. Learned later due to loose quality standards of AMD, PowerColor put not so good memory chips on my card. Affecting overclocking etc. Nothing was attainable that was stable. Black screens, driver timeouts. Driver after driver, same thing. A highlighter on "know issues" with AMD drivers. Never ever resolved. To this day, I get constant black screens, even playing a bloody solitare game. When I was on nVidia NEVER had any of this. Never. I bought the lowest priced 2060GTX as well. Skimp on memory? Nope. I can't say how many reports I have sent to AMD and have never seen resolution or any technical article on how to resolve. AMD is garbage, cheap garbage and they don't hold even a flicker of a candle to Nvidia. Unfortunately I'm stuck with this POS until I can get my hands on a 3xxx series Nvidia card. I will say the complete opposite for their CPU's.. they are quality. Just their video card line is a complete joke. The fact they said "We don't care if you mine" just shows how desperate AMD is to sell their cards. At least Nvidia put in some sort of effort to block bitcoin mining. ATI was always junk.. in the early days, why I switched to 3DFX and then Nvidia.

Nvidia is and has been laughing at AMD for a long time and I learned that I will NEVER be persuaded by others to choose other than the best cards on the market. Nvidia. I personally can't wait. When prices become realistic I'll be back to them. 100% guarantee.

Yeah 5700 series launch is probably among the worst GPU launches ever. There is literally 1000s of posts on the internet, about BSOD, crashing or random reboots. VRM overheating was among the issues, temps went to 120-140c on some cards after a few minutes of gaming.

It was sadly a rushed release.

It took AMD months and months to fix this. I know a few people who actually SOLD their 5700XT's and went Nvidia instead, because they could not play anyway, even with downclocking the cards froze in 3D, or simply crashed to desktop.

This can happen to ANY card, including Nvidia cards. Always a chance of DoA cards, but this affected pretty much ALL 5700 series cards for 3-4-5 months post release.

Imagine buying a new GPU, and then you can't use it for months.

There's always bugs on release, for new tech, but it should not take almost half a year to fix. It should have been a PRIORITY over anything else.

Sadly AMDs software team is like 1/100 of Nvidias and it shows.

Ever tried playing early access games on an AMD GPU? You will regret you even started the game most of the time. Terrible performance with visual artifacts and glitches all over. Meanwhile it plays fine on a Nvidia GPU.

Just look at Game Forums on new game releases and early access. You always see AMD owners complain. AMD does not even release drivers for new games sometimes - Nvidia ALWAYS have a driver ready for new games.
 
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Avro Arrow

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I owned a nvidia card all the way to a 2060GTX when I was persuaded by the lady to give her my card and get a new one. Listening to AMD fanboys I bought a AMD card. PowerColor 5700XT. The card is complete junk. Learned later due to loose quality standards of AMD, PowerColor put not so good memory chips on my card. Affecting overclocking etc. Nothing was attainable that was stable. Black screens, driver timeouts. Driver after driver, same thing. A highlighter on "know issues" with AMD drivers. Never ever resolved. To this day, I get constant black screens, even playing a bloody solitare game. When I was on nVidia NEVER had any of this. Never. I bought the lowest priced 2060GTX as well. Skimp on memory? Nope. I can't say how many reports I have sent to AMD and have never seen resolution or any technical article on how to resolve. AMD is garbage, cheap garbage and they don't hold even a flicker of a candle to Nvidia. Unfortunately I'm stuck with this POS until I can get my hands on a 3xxx series Nvidia card. I will say the complete opposite for their CPU's.. they are quality. Just their video card line is a complete joke. The fact they said "We don't care if you mine" just shows how desperate AMD is to sell their cards. At least Nvidia put in some sort of effort to block bitcoin mining. ATI was always junk.. in the early days, why I switched to 3DFX and then Nvidia.

Nvidia is and has been laughing at AMD for a long time and I learned that I will NEVER be persuaded by others to choose other than the best cards on the market. Nvidia. I personally can't wait. When prices become realistic I'll be back to them. 100% guarantee.
You registered an account just to dump on the RX 5700XT? I'm seriously suspicious that you're Bawlsdeep's alt. Sure, I had a couple of issues with my RX 5700XT, in fact, I had to RMA it TWICE. Since then, it has had the odd driver timeout (maybe once a week at most) but I've been getting great gameplay out of it otherwise.

If you're having problems with a video card, it's quite simple. Just RMA the thing. Do you honestly believe that nVidia cards are flawless? If you do, then you're DEFINITELY Bawlsdeep using an alt name or the reason that you've never posted here before is that you have no idea what everyone's talking about. I've owned video cards since 1988 and honestly, my RX 5700XT was the FIRST card that I've ever had to RMA. My two HD 4870s, my HD 5870, my HD 7970 and both of my R9 Furies work flawlessly TO THIS DAY (and my HD 4870s are over 12 years old). Furthermore, the cheap-crap HD 5450 and HD 6450 that are in my mother's computers also still work flawlessly TO THIS DAY.

You take one Radeon card that happens to have problems and that proves to you that ATi can't make GPUs? Sweet Jesus! How is it that all of the problems that nVidia cards have had haven't convinced you of the same thing?

Oh, that's right, you've been too busy convincing yourself. Well, perhaps the words of Steve Walton, man who probably forgets more then you'll ever know about computers with his morning cup of caffeine every single day might make you realise just how ignorant you are. After all, he specifically recommended the Powercolor Red Devil RX 5700XT more than once:
I guess he's just an AMD fanboy too, eh? You know, I really do find it strangely comforting that 90% of the intellectual plebeians love nVidia and hate AMD. It means that I'm defiintely not one of you.
 
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Bawlsdeep

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You registered an account just to dump on the RX 5700XT? I'm seriously suspicious that you're Bawlsdeep's alt. Sure, I had a couple of issues with my RX 5700XT, in fact, I had to RMA it TWICE. Since then, it has had the odd driver timeout (maybe once a week at most) but I've been getting great gameplay out of it otherwise.

If you're having problems with a video card, it's quite simple. Just RMA the thing. Do you honestly believe that nVidia cards are flawless? If you do, then you're DEFINITELY Bawlsdeep using an alt name or the reason that you've never posted here before is that you have no idea what everyone's talking about. I've owned video cards since 1988 and honestly, my RX 5700XT was the FIRST card that I've ever had to RMA. My two HD 4870s, my HD 5870, my HD 7970 and both of my R9 Furies work flawlessly TO THIS DAY (and my HD 4870s are over 12 years old). Furthermore, the cheap-crap HD 5450 and HD 6450 that are in my mother's computers also still work flawlessly TO THIS DAY.

You take one Radeon card that happens to have problems and that proves to you that ATi can't make GPUs? Sweet Jesus! How is it that all of the problems that nVidia cards have had haven't convinced you of the same thing?

Oh, that's right, you've been too busy convincing yourself.

Hahaha, funny that you think it's my "alt"

Don't you think I have better things to do. Let the admin decide.

And ehh, it was not a hardware issue and affected pretty much all 5700 series cards. Should they all RMA because AMD drivers did not work? :joy:

OR should AMD have delayed the launch? Hmm .. LETS SEE ..


Google "5700xt crash" and read the 390.000 results

How can you even NOT KNOW about this failure of a launch. It was literally ALL OVER the hardware news for months.
 
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NeoMorpheus

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Don't you think I have better things to do.
I have seen worse...
And ehh, it was not a hardware issue and affected pretty much all 5700 series cards.
Not all cards were affected, including Steve at HW and many after one RMA received cards that were physically different, which is possible to indicate that the original hardware had a flaw that escaped them.
Should they all RMA because AMD drivers did not work?
If it is hardware, yes. But since its clear that in your case everything is dealt in absolutes, then its a bit useless to continue on that part.
OR should AMD have delayed the launch?
If it was something that ABSOLUTELY affected every single card, then I would say yes, since it was something done with malice, like what Nvidia has done in other ways to everyone.
How can you even NOT KNOW about this failure of a launch. It was literally ALL OVER the hardware news for months.
Again, talking in absolutes...Again, many like Steve, couldnt replicate or experience the issue.
 

defaultluser

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The 6700 XT has only been out for 4 months now, and you can already find over 25 per-store it on dozens of Microcenter sites:

See this post here, on Tech Power Up Forum.


When almost every single Microcenter in the USA has an overstock, then you know you have an unappealing, overpriced card,. You'd be hard-pressed to find a 3060 Ti at any of these locations (but they are priced ad a more appropriate $500.)

If this doesn't convince you that the 6700 XT is a dud, I don't know what will - and that is supposed to be their wide-availability GPU (it is, but nobody wants it, not even at it's MSRP).


Having a poor entry-level option would tend to keep people away from the typical up sell (when you're already overpriced by $70, it's hard to convince gamers to even look at the rest of your stack)[/B]
 
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Avro Arrow

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Again, talking in absolutes...Again, many like Steve, couldnt replicate or experience the issue.
To be honest, neither Steve Walton nor Steve Burke were able to duplicate the issues. I think that it had something to do with power delivery on my original 5700XT because it had an 8-pin+6-pin power-in setup. When I RMA'd it, instead of receiving another XFX Triple-Dissipation, I received a THICC III with an 8-pin+8-pin configuration. It started giving me artifacts on my post screen (ASRock screen) which I knew couldn't be a software error because no software had yet loaded. Windows was unable to load correctly in that state.

I had no idea what the problem was but I fortunately know a certain tech genius named Jim from AdoredTV so I sent him a DM with pics and a video of the problem on twitter. He got back to me the next day (he's in Sweden, I'm in Canada so the time difference makes actually chatting kind of a rare occurrence) and told me there was no doubt that it's defective VRAM.

Kinda hard to blame AMD or XFX for that since the only makers of RAM are Samsung, Hynix and Micron. Clearly one of them made the bad VRAM and sold it to XFX for XFX's card. Sometimes luck just ain't on your side but XFX treated me well (I recommend calling them, not leaving messages on xfxforce.com) and their willingness to make things right is a huge plus. Any product made by humans could be defective and it's the companies that take care of their customers post-sale that are the ones I want to deal with. That guarantees a positive outcome of either the product being fine or the company taking care of the situation if it's not fine.

People who talk in absolutes are almost always a product of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. You and I both know this to be true.
 

HardReset

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The 6700 XT has only been out for 4 months now, and you can already find over 25 per-store it on dozens of Microcenter sites:

See this post here, on Tech Power Up Forum.

That just proves AMD cards are available and Nvidia made pure paper launch. Very poor selection of Nvidia cards available. And still some claim AMD was one that made paper launch 🤔
When almost every single Microcenter in the USA has an overstock, then you know you have an unappealing, overpriced card,. You'd be hard-pressed to find a 3060 Ti at any of these locations (but they are priced ad a more appropriate $500.)

If this doesn't convince you that the 6700 XT is a dud, I don't know what will - and that is supposed to be their wide-availability GPU (it is, but nobody wants it, not even at it's MSRP).


Having a poor entry-level option would tend to keep people away from the typical up sell (when you're already overpriced by $70, it's hard to convince gamers to even look at the rest of your stack)[/B]
Looked for those Microcenter prices. Cheapest 6700XT costs $829. MRSP is $479. That's 57% over MRSP.
 

Avro Arrow

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The 6700 XT has only been out for 4 months now, and you can already find over 25 per-store it on dozens of Microcenter sites:
Ok, so you're being disingenuous. There is no overstock on that card at Microcenter. You linked to a forum with a post that specifically said that ALL Microcenters have overstock. I actually went to MicroCenter's site and found this:
They only have a good number of ASRock Challenger cards. They have very limited availability of a few others and are sold out of the vast majority of them. Clearly, what happened is that Microcenter just got a shipment form ASRock because that's the only one that they have in decent numbers
Having a poor entry-level option would tend to keep people away from the typical up sell (when you're already overpriced by $70, it's hard to convince gamers to even look at the rest of your stack)[/B]
Anyone with ½ a brain would realise that an MSRP of $200 MORE than the RX 6800XT for an RX 6700XT is still a terrible price. You're not that stupid, you're deliberately being dishonest. I don't know what made you want to mislead people but it doesn't win you any respect here except among the dumb apes. I honestly can't bear to read your sorry excuses for posts anymore and I'm sure that I'm not the only one.
 

Bawlsdeep

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That just proves AMD cards are available and Nvidia made pure paper launch. Very poor selection of Nvidia cards available. And still some claim AMD was one that made paper launch 🤔

Looked for those Microcenter prices. Cheapest 6700XT costs $829. MRSP is $479. That's 57% over MRSP.

You can't seem to understand that people STILL WAIT IN QUEUE to recieve Ampere cards. YEP! Thats how POPULAR 3000 series are, 10 months post release and people are STILL WAITING. MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of cards were pre-ordered.

Everything Nvidia makes, sells out instantly STILL. Demand has been and still is huge.


Most sold cards at Newegg, one of the biggest online stores has Nvidia listed all over. There is 3 AMD cards listed, all 6700XT. ZERO 6800 or 6900 series listed.

And you think AMD is selling those cards left and right :joy: :joy:

Lets look at Amazon too, just to be sure!


ZERO AMD CARDS. NONE at all in most popular cards and most sold cards.

Reality calls :joy: these sites shows EXACTLY the same thing you see on Steam HW Survey and 3DMark Database; Ampere dominates RNDA2 completely.

In every single store I look Nvidia dominates the most popular cards category, 95-100% of the cards in Top25 is Nvidia cards.

And you SERIOUSLY think AMD sold more GPUs than Nvidia at ANY POINT IN TIME in 2020 or 2021? :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:
 
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Skjorn

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I didn't get that idea from his post at all. You're just reacting in an emotional and childish way, pretending to be the victim here. Let's look again at his post, shall we?

Now, what I believe that a rational person would glean from this is that someone is fueling the media hype with the outside chance that they're being bribed by nVidia to do so. Your reaction of throwing all of your toys out of the pram and pouting by picking out one thing and trying to victimise yourself with it doesn't do you any favours here. Also, I don't see your name anywhere in his post.

Your reaction would indicate that you are, in fact, the one who posted and then deleted the post so here's an idea, how about you explain why you posted something and then retracted it? Such a thing always looks bad, like a deleted tweet.

I don't think that anyone here believes that a bribe occurred. Well, there are always the intellectually incompetent but who cares what they (don't) think? In any case, it did fuel the nVidia hype and I don't think that's an unreasonable position. In all my time here, I've never seen NeoMorpheus seriously take an unreasonable position. The sentence about the bribe has something called "a subtext" and was used to make the first idea stronger by being hyperbolic.

I'll say the silent part in parenthesis so that you'll understand it better:
Given that and what they posted and then retracted, I would say that they are simply fueling the nvidia hype or worse, they are getting bribed by nvidia.
(They're of course not being bribed by nVidia which only strengthens the idea that they're simply fueling the nVidia hype.)

That's what I got from his post. Not once did it cross my mind that anyone was being bribed and I don't think that NeoMorpheus would post such a silly idea as serious.
I got to much **** to do to read all that but what was it? They think MC is being paid by Nvidia to price AMD higher? What got retracted? MC doesn't need to fuel a damn thing. The media and consumers fuel it.
 

HardReset

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You can't seem to understand that people STILL WAIT IN QUEUE to recieve Ampere cards. YEP! Thats how POPULAR 3000 series are, 10 months post release and people are STILL WAITING. MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of cards were pre-ordered.

Everything Nvidia makes, sells out instantly STILL. Demand has been and still is huge.
They will be waiting for long time. You really think people will get cards at MSRP considering current pricing?

Btw, tons of buyers are also waiting for their Radeon cards they ordered around MSRP, for same reason.

Most sold cards at Newegg, one of the biggest online stores has Nvidia listed all over. There is 3 AMD cards listed, all 6700XT. ZERO 6800 or 6900 series listed.

And you think AMD is selling those cards left and right :joy: :joy:
I see three 6800 on first page. Didn't bother to look for more.
Lets look at Amazon too, just to be sure!


ZERO AMD CARDS. NONE at all in most popular cards and most sold cards.
I see first Radeon 6800 XT being more popular than any 3080 non Ti...

Perhaps you should look again. No f*cking idea what you are talking about.
Reality calls :joy: these sites shows EXACTLY the same thing you see on Steam HW Survey and 3DMark Database; Ampere dominates RNDA2 completely.

In every single store I look Nvidia dominates the most popular cards category, 95-100% of the cards in Top25 is Nvidia cards.

And you SERIOUSLY think AMD sold more GPUs than Nvidia at ANY POINT IN TIME in 2020 or 2021? :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:
Again, you looked it wrong. Sorry.
 

Mjswooosh

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Let's see...over priced and under performing at MSRP vs equivalent nVidia GPUs...and finding one is like winning the lottery. Mind you, it's not easy to find a nVidia GPU either but supply does at least seem a little better for the green team. Not exactly shocking results even if it's questionable to extrapolate Steam users to the PC user base at large.

AMD basically conducted a paper launch for the 6000 series and scalpers sucked up a fair amount of the paltry supply. 🤷‍♂️
 

duckofdeath

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According to what? Same BS survey that claims AMD's third most popular card is Radeon HD 8800? 🤦‍♂️

Start learning what's fact and what's not.

How about providing at least single proof for your claims. TSMC 7nm line is running on full capacity. Give me even single reason why TSMC should take any orders OVER that full capacity for certain time frame? No, cancelled orders are not problem because AMD, Sony, Microsoft etc gladly take all extra capacity they can get.

It's just, if any customer wants to produce something on TSMC's fully booked production lines, they simply are told to either wait until lines are not fully booked or go somewhere else. Like where?

Exactly.
Is a thing like Steam user statistics now BS? Is there a limit to the lies people like you can vomit up on the internet to avoid accepting reality?

Yes, that is how a billion dollar industry operates: Gladly gamble on actually selling anything. You're super smart. You should apply for a job as a Big Corp CEO.
 

Bamda

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TechSpot should be ashamed of themselves for releasing such an article. This article only builds hate in the gaming community. This article is just very incendiary. Next, they will be saying that the RDNA2 cards suck and should not be purchased. Get the point?
 

NeoMorpheus

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TechSpot should be ashamed of themselves for releasing such an article. This article only builds hate in the gaming community. This article is just very incendiary. Next, they will be saying that the RDNA2 cards suck and should not be purchased. Get the point?
It seems that this is one of those click bait things that keep recurring year after year:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/bbvnb3





The sad reality is, this is the closest thing we have to track this info.

But as you said, TS should be ashamed of this article.
 

HardReset

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Is a thing like Steam user statistics now BS? Is there a limit to the lies people like you can vomit up on the internet to avoid accepting reality?

Yes, that is how a billion dollar industry operates: Gladly gamble on actually selling anything. You're super smart. You should apply for a job as a Big Corp CEO.
Of course those are BS. Claiming that Radeon HD 8800 series is AMD's third popular GPU right now proves Steam survey is BS. It's 100% proof. Get over it.
 

Bawlsdeep

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Nvidia sits at ~80% marketshare for dedicated GPUs. AMD mostly sell lower-end cards and this is the Segment that Intel will target very soon (Nvidia does not really care much about low-end segment). Tough times are coming for AMD GPUs.

Once again, AMDs most popular cards in the last 5 years are; RX580,570,480 and 470 ... 150-250 dollar cards.

These are the cards that dominated sales charts for AMD on various retailers (and steam hw survey too)

5700 series sold decent but launch was terrible, bad drivers for half a year because AMD rushed the release. And this is exactly why some people never come back to AMD GPU again. Imagine buying a new GPU and then you can't use it for several months.
 
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HardReset

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Nvidia sits at ~80% marketshare for dedicated GPUs. AMD mostly sell lower-end cards and this is the Segment that Intel will target very soon (Nvidia does not really care much about low-end segment). Tough times are coming for AMD GPUs.

Once again, AMDs most popular cards in the last 5 years are; RX580,570,480 and 470 ... 150-250 dollar cards.
It's AMD that do not really care about low end cards, because APU's handle that segment. Nvidia however have no IGP's so they target low end cards.

150-250 dollar range is mid range, not low end.
These are the cards that dominated sales charts for AMD on various retailers (and steam hw survey too)
You forgot Radeon HD 8800 series once again.
5700 series sold decent but launch was terrible, bad drivers for half a year because AMD rushed the release. And this is exactly why some people never come back to AMD GPU again. Imagine buying a new GPU and then you can't use it for several months.
Once again, most websites were not able to replicate driver issues. Hint: Windows may report hardware failures as driver issue and 99% of users do not understand that.
 

Bawlsdeep

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It's AMD that do not really care about low end cards, because APU's handle that segment. Nvidia however have no IGP's so they target low end cards.

150-250 dollar range is mid range, not low end.

You forgot Radeon HD 8800 series once again.

Once again, most websites were not able to replicate driver issues. Hint: Windows may report hardware failures as driver issue and 99% of users do not understand that.

Haha desktop APU's are a joke for gaming, more like ultra low-end and only suited for 720p or 1080p (on low) gaming. However, we are talking dedicated...

Sub 250 dollars GPU are low-end.

Mid-end is 250-500 dollars.

Highend is 500+

1000+ dollar segment is more like entusiast class and Nvidia sits on pretty much 99% of the market here.

Nvidia also dominates high-end market tho.
AMD mainly competes in low to mid-end segment.
 
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