NYC could force Amazon and FedEx to directly employ its delivery drivers

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What we know so far: A bill pending before the New York City Council could make the Big Apple the first US city to regulate the last-mile operations of e-commerce and logistics giants, such as Amazon and FedEx. Supported by Mayor Zohran Mamdani, the bill aims to mandate that businesses with door-to-door operations must directly employ their delivery personnel rather than outsourcing the job to third-party contractors.

Proponents of the Delivery Protection Act claim that it will offer major benefits to e-commerce employees working for companies like Amazon, FedEx, DHL, FreshDirect, and DoorDash. These include higher wages, better work hours, safer working conditions, improved healthcare benefits, and more paid time off, especially in cases of injuries while on duty.

Mamdani has thrown his full support behind the proposed legislation, calling it a much-needed measure to hold multibillion-dollar corporations accountable for their actions. In a statement, he said that the legislation will prevent Amazon and other businesses from "insulating themselves from accountability through a system of exploitative subcontracting."

Describing it as "common-sense regulation," Mamdani argued that the bill will protect delivery workers, as well as safeguard the communities where these companies operate. He added that it will also ensure that "the corporations benefiting from workers' labor are responsible for the consequences of their business practices."

The bill is sponsored by Tiffany L. Caban, a councilwoman from Queens, who described it as "the most important municipal labor bill in the country." Caban and other supporters claim that it is also a public safety initiative that will not only benefit delivery workers, but also local communities in the five NYC boroughs.

Talking to The Progressive, Caban's communications director, Matan Arad-Neeman, lamented that the people who are "wearing Amazon vests, driving Amazon vans, and delivering Amazon packages" are treated as dispensable when they get sick or have an accident while working for the company. They are "not (even) allowed to take legally required rest breaks," he added.

As expected, Amazon has vehemently opposed the bill, claiming it will raise delivery costs and disrupt timely deliveries for NYC residents. The company also threatened to move its delivery hubs out of the city if the bill passes, potentially eliminating thousands of jobs and negatively impacting the local economy.

Backed by labor organizations like the Teamsters Union, the proposed legislation has secured supermajority support among NYC council members and drawn more than 30 co-sponsors, mostly from the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. It is expected to be presented for a formal vote as soon as this fall, although an exact date has not yet been officially confirmed.

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Does anyone actually believe Amazon would leave the most densely populated city in the US over this?

I might have some sympathy for Amazon, if they didnt constantly mistreat their workers. They've earned this.

I did find this funny: "They are "not (even) allowed to take legally required rest breaks," he added."

If the law can so flagrantly be ignored, exactly what good is this employment law going to do then?
 
F##k em.. make them move out and lose money.. THEY'RE NOT paying a living wage anyways so they are NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMY IN ANY WAY.
Amazon pays one of the highest rates for warehouse work, which is why they have no shortage of contractors. They pay $18-20 an hour in areas where most warehouses pay $12-15.

"Muh livin waaaaage" is a stupid argument. You keep pumping the numbers up, you dont actually fix anything. Which people pointed out, but were called evil chuds for saying that doubling minimum wage wouldnt fix the issue since costs would rise to absorb the extra income.

We went from $10, to "fight for 15", to "$25 to stay alive" and now they're clamoring for $30 an hour minimums. At no point do these knuckleheads stop and ask why, despite number going up, they are just as poor as they were a decade ago.
 
Does anyone actually believe Amazon would leave the most densely populated city in the US over this?

I might have some sympathy for Amazon, if they didnt constantly mistreat their workers. They've earned this.

I did find this funny: "They are "not (even) allowed to take legally required rest breaks," he added."

If the law can so flagrantly be ignored, exactly what good is this employment law going to do then?

Because they’re contractors not employees they technically work for themselves and aren’t required to take breaks. Basically independent contractors aren’t protected by employment laws which is why Amazon structures it this way.

The only reason why they would leave the city is to prevent the same legislation spreading
 
F##k em.. make them move out and lose money.. THEY'RE NOT paying a living wage anyways so they are NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMY IN ANY WAY.
Hah! Totally! It's like people saying millionaires will move if you raise taxes. Uhh, go ahead, they aren't paying taxes already so what's the difference?
 
Amazon pays one of the highest rates for warehouse work, which is why they have no shortage of contractors. They pay $18-20 an hour in areas where most warehouses pay $12-15.

"Muh livin waaaaage" is a stupid argument. You keep pumping the numbers up, you dont actually fix anything. Which people pointed out, but were called evil chuds for saying that doubling minimum wage wouldnt fix the issue since costs would rise to absorb the extra income.

We went from $10, to "fight for 15", to "$25 to stay alive" and now they're clamoring for $30 an hour minimums. At no point do these knuckleheads stop and ask why, despite number going up, they are just as poor as they were a decade ago.
You're right. For that to work, CEOs and other execs would need to take a pay cut rather than raise prices. You can keep paying the guy who does nothing and spends nothing millions of dollars, or you could pay the people below him who do most everything and would spend money in a heartbeat if they had it. I wonder which of these is good for the economy?
 
Nice to see the government in NYC wanting to dictate to companies how they are allowed to do their business. /s

If drivers for these delivery services are having issues with the DSP (Delivery Service Partner) contracts, they need to take it up with the contractors they are working through. Amazon has no say in how these DSP conduct their businesses and no one is forced to work for these DSP contractors, either.

Amazon has every right to be upset about the changes. It would be a massive undertaking for them to construct and build up their business to handle everything that their contracted jobs would no longer be able to do. Amazon prices would go up because they'd have so much more overhead in terms of employees (part & full time), needing to pay more into benefits, more vehicles for delivery use, more into insurance, higher taxes and so on.

Amazon also has the right to pull out of NYC and taking their jobs with them. Just like how a lot of companies have left CA for other states because of tax laws, this wouldn't really be any different for Amazon leaving NYC.

Amazon just has to decide if the pros of leaving NYC outweigh the cons of staying if this law does go through.
 
You're right. For that to work, CEOs and other execs would need to take a pay cut rather than raise prices. You can keep paying the guy who does nothing and spends nothing millions of dollars, or you could pay the people below him who do most everything and would spend money in a heartbeat if they had it. I wonder which of these is good for the economy?
This is also a stupid argument. Amazon's CEO Andy Jassy reported $2.1 million in compensation for FY 2025.

So if you took his ENTIRE compensation, and split it among just the 1000 amazon driver sin New York, each one would get.....$2,100 per year. Or about $80 per check, before tax. If you divided it among ALL amazon drivers, that would be $5.38 per year.

You see this same rhetoric over Wal Mart compensation. People really struggle with multiplying big numbers; people were calling for wal mart to raise pay of all employees by $5, not understanding that this would bankrupt the company within a year unless they jacked up prices. And claiming C suites do nothing.....IDK why people think this. They simultaneously think C suites do nothing but are responsible for all ill in the world. Having your cake and eating it too.
Hah! Totally! It's like people saying millionaires will move if you raise taxes. Uhh, go ahead, they aren't paying taxes already so what's the difference?
ALSO factually incorrect. Millionaires, when factoring in state and local taxes, can pay rates as high as 45%.


And the top 1% of americans pay for 40% of income tax revenue in the US


Billionaires are able to more effectively hide their money, but they also still pay a huge chunk, even with financial wiggling. Meanwhile, the bottom 20% of americans pay almost nothing, and technically pay NEGATIVE once you factor in tax returns and credits.

 
As expected, Amazon has vehemently opposed the bill, claiming it will raise delivery costs and disrupt timely deliveries for NYC residents. The company also threatened to move its delivery hubs out of the city if the bill passes, potentially eliminating thousands of jobs and negatively impacting the local economy.

The more amazon hates it, the better it is for the working class.
 
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