Poll on Athlon vs Intel

Do you like Athlon or Intel Better

  • Athlon

    Votes: 27 90.0%

  • Intel

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .
I was trying to find out when Socket A first came out, couldn't find an exact date, but one of the early 1.1ghz Athlons for the "new" Socket A was June 5th 2000. So the Socket A had over a 5 year life span. This should be considered amazing for the PC industry. I mean, only Windows ME was out, and Win2000, and the Athlon was competing with Intel P3s. And now AMD just finished shipping out their last, what, 3200+? Or 3400+? Whatever their last chip was. While in the meantime Intel changed 32bit sockets 2 or 3 more times.

This tidbit has naught to do with which maker is better or worse, but I just find it interresting that AMD was able to sqeeze life out of that socket for so long as their primary 32bit socket. I bought a 3200+ Athlon 2 or 3 months ago, for a screaming deal. That was just about when AMD was going to stop producing chips for it, and suddenly, almost over night, the CPU I just bought was about $80 more, and climbing still.

Anyhoo, my "abandoned" comment was not towards Socket A, but the 754. Which we thought was going to fizzle out, until AMD made some budget chips for it, which kept it alive as a budget buy.

Socrates - good info there. Your upper quote shows a Socket 940 as the Athlon-fx. But your lower quote doesn't have info on it. And yet the description of the Socket 939 says that it accepts the FX versions which were originally the 940 and 754. I didn't know the 754 was for fx CPUs.

Now I just wonder if AMD can keep the 939 going for another 5 years. We'll see...
 
A better poll would be processor vs processor.

I'm a techie no doubt, but foremost, I'm a consumer and I don't care which company makes what, only what product is the best for my needs.

While I believe that AMD has a superior processor for workstations and servers, I'd take a Pentium M over a Turion anyday. It's all about what works best for you, vote with your dollars. I feel disdain for any person that gets sucked into brand loyalty and is too narrow sighted for their own good.
 
It's hard not to have brand loyalty when there is only two brands and you don't like one of them!

It's different if someone were to say, I ONLY buy Epson printers, or they ONLY buy Coolermaster cases or Antec power supplies. Cause there is a lot more choices out there. And good choices.

And let's face it, a lot of people stick with AMD because they are the underdog. If they ever went out of business and Intel was able to complete a monopoly. Ouch.
 
Vigilante said:
It's hard not to have brand loyalty when there is only two brands and you don't like one of them!

It's different if someone were to say, I ONLY buy Epson printers, or they ONLY buy Coolermaster cases or Antec power supplies. Cause there is a lot more choices out there. And good choices.

And let's face it, a lot of people stick with AMD because they are the underdog. If they ever went out of business and Intel was able to complete a monopoly. Ouch.
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Go Cyrix!.. I mean Transmeta... Wait, I mean Via!
 
oh christ, not transmeta. don't even get me started. i have had the unfourtunate displeasure of using one of thier crusoe 5900 cpus in a tablet PC. my pocket-sized graphing calculator has more computing power than that machine did. does transmeta make any good products, or is the crusoe tragically thier best?
 
PanicX said:
I'm a techie no doubt, but foremost, I'm a consumer and I don't care which company makes what, only what product is the best for my needs.
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Thank you PanicX someone finally said it.

Im not even going to argue one way or the other, as it seems this debate always comes up (but i bet you could guess who i would argue for)

Sean
 
I'm a consumer and I don't care which company makes what, only what product is the best for my needs.
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And everybody knows, AMD is best for your needs...


haha, just kidding, really. I take the 5th :)
 
well, i hope transmeta learned from the crusoe fiasco. because i'll eventually encounter one of thier products again. thank god they stopped making x86 chips for standard sockets, but thier OEM buyers are still crappier than ever ***ahem*** COMPAQ
 
Vigilante said:
You said the "C" word. Where's a censor when you need one?
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Realy can't beat the price/performance of a 3000+ Venice, but a 630 is close in most and better in some benchmarks. Overclocking only thightens up its loses and increases it's leads.

The problems with AMD is only now that 939 is on it's way out (M2 will be here as seen as they get it fixed) do thay release budget CPUs for the socket(and now only to OEMs.)

Compare to Intel you can get a 326 Celly for about half the price of a 3000+, and in a socket that will be Intels best for years. Or even a 820 Pentium D, way less than a 3800+ X2.

Imagin, Intel is the budget leader. :)
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I have two LGA775 rigs and one Athlon 64 rig(But two 3200+CPUs for it, a Winnie and a Vinnie.) Also a lot of old K-6-2s and Pentiums in my junk piles. No votes from me.
 
Imho

I am new to all this computing stuff, and CPUing, and all those things, and, since I have only ever used Intel, am not qualified to declare a "better." However, since I bought my first system, I have been a tech forum junkie, trying to learn from people in the know, and here is what I think (I know I will get shouted at, but?):
The Intel vs. AMD debate resembles, to me, the Windows/Linux (and all its offshoots) debate. Everybody rails against BigBrotherBill/MS, and praises freeware/shareware/open source OS's, but almost everyone USES Windows. I know- software compatibility, etc. But it seems the geeks use it as they cuss it.

If, as many geeks claim, AMD is not only better than Intel, but also CHEAPER than Intel app for app, why isn't Intel in the "too much money for the performance" scrapheap already? Why would there even be a debate? More value for the price is a no-brainer.

Methinks many just wanna stick with the AMDs and Linuxs as a sort of "rage against the machine" syndrome.

I am certain I will be set straight about this, but it is my impression after a year's worth of open-minded (blank-slate-minded) review. Nuff said. :unch:
 
Without a doubt, I think that what you said has SOME truth to it. It is always fun to be against big brother, and there is no doubt that INTEL has been big brother for a number of years.

The bottom line is this. Take a look at this chart, ( http://www23.tomshardware.com/index.html ) and find an AMD and an Intel CPU that perform at about the same level, then go and look at their relative prices. That's what it all comes down to.

I kind of like people going for intel, as it keeps the AMD prices low. As more and more people switch over to AMD, the prices will only increase.

So, keep on loving INTEL. It works for me. Go intel! Woo-hoo!
 
I've voted AMD for one good reason, value for money. I am using an athlon xp 2000+ that I've had for over 3 years. It cost me just under £60 and i recon for the money has done me proud. Its been overclocked from 1.66ghz to over 1.8ghz for its entire lifespan and is still going strong. If i had gone for Intel i would have had to spend a fair bit more money to get the performance that i have.
 
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DonNagual said:
Without a doubt, I think that what you said has SOME truth to it. It is always fun to be against big brother, and there is no doubt that INTEL has been big brother for a number of years.

The bottom line is this. Take a look at this chart, ( http://www23.tomshardware.com/index.html ) and find an AMD and an Intel CPU that perform at about the same level, then go and look at their relative prices. That's what it all comes down to.

I kind of like people going for intel, as it keeps the AMD prices low. As more and more people switch over to AMD, the prices will only increase.

So, keep on loving INTEL. It works for me. Go intel! Woo-hoo!
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SEE! You are all assuming from my comments that I vote for Intel. As I said, I am NOT QUALIFIED to rate them. The main reason I have only used Intel is this: Say you have never owned a car before, and are planning your first purchase. You look around, you read, and discover that the Honda is a reasonably good buy, and has a long reputation for reliability, but the KIA has a longer warranty, and a lower price. As one who has never owned one, do you buy the KIA? (I am not comparing AMD to a KIA, it's just an example of the thought process of a complete newbie!) :eek:
 
Ah, but now you are just as guilty of making assumption on intended meaning!! :)

My "keep on loving intel" comment was not directed at you. It was a comment in general to the masses of intel lovers.

Anyways, I think the reason so many people go for Intel at this point, is the momentum behind the company. It's advertising campaigns have been on for years. It is the standard, and it is what everyone knows.

When someone goes to buy a dell or a gateway, I think most have no idea what an AMD cpu is, nor do they care really.

It is the hardcore market that notices these things. Performance vs. dollar. How can I build the fastest system for my dollar. The addiction to frames per second.

Back to your car analogy. What goes in the cars that you and I buy is mostly determined on the race tracks. They push things to the limit in F1, and that technology slowly trickles into the consumer market.

An on the F1 tracks AMD is right on par with Intel. I am the same as you. I am not saying one is better than the other. It all depends on WHAT YOU USE YOUR COMPUTER FOR. Me? Games. And on THAT particular F1 track, AMD is the undisputed champion.

But as AMD is still relatively new (compared with Intel) it does not have the momentum that Intel has to take over the market. Only the future can tell if that'll ever change.
 
Uh.......

I wouldn't have taken offense in any case, I just meant that I don't necessarily include myself on the Intel side of the debate, but I do have a serious question for you:
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Are you SURE that KIA develops their units from what they've learned in F1? I must say, though, that have an adequate source of info in their own backyard. Last I heard, there are more cars per-capita in Seoul than anywhere else on earth. Having spent a few months in S Korea in the 70's, I believe it.
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As you said, the advertising must influence most prospective first-time buyers; add the fact that my ex works for Intel, and my first buy was almost pre-ordained. I "got no game" in me, so it wasn't a consideration. Now, if I had just learned more about mobos before.......... but that's another thread. Appreciate the comments, DonNagual (you're already a Paladin in my book). :angel:
 
the thing about intel is that they have many contracts with many OEMs (such as dell and sony). most consumers are used to the 'intel inside' badges on thier boxes and have accepted it as good. intel's management was smart and got thier foot in the door back in the 1980's because thier managers foresaw this.
 
Conroe is comming...shorter pipelines, higher clocks, who knows?

What ever it is, Intel may very well top the podium again on all tracks.
 
I can't say much about it, but Conroe has been a nice CPU to work with. :)

Don't forget about AMD's new CPUs too. Should be interesting!
 
Rick said:
Conroe has been a nice CPU to work with. :)

Don't forget about AMD's new CPUs too. Should be interesting!
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You have a Conroe, Intel just said that it is real and will be ready 4Q this year?

AMD said M2 will have a 10% performance increase over 939 chips.

Do you work for Intel? You live in the right place. (come on, spill the beans)
My hopes are that Conroe is dual 3ghz Dothans for $300. That would be like three times the power of a FX57!
 

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