Possible power supply problem?

[GabooN]

That is what I have? I have a 100mm rear fan blowing out, and the same at the front bottom of the case blowing in. Then I have the obvious CPU fan, with one of those funnel things (forget name) to help the air get out of the grate in the side pannel. I wouldn't have thought I have any heating problems. Both times I've had the video card working nicely have been on my desk, with sidepanel removed.

 

[iss]

sounds like you have sufficient cooling so there is no other explanation other than your comuter is possessed!!! call and excorcist now!!

 

[GabooN]

lol maybe not quite just yet... I was back in bios to enable Hyperthreading, was snooping around and checked out the system temps etc. It said that the front fan was 0rpm so I took a look to see if maybe the power wasnt plugged in... Apparently I don't have a front bottom fan, its just a housing. I hadn't noticed because its kinda hidden behind the lip of the side of the case. Guess I'll start by ordering a fan. Cool air would have been drawn in as hot air was expulled but not as much as if it were being forced.

Any recommendations? I don't want something too loud, but hopefully a pretty high CFM so it will do its job well. I would get this but my two 3.5 drive bays are full, I have an empty 5 inch though. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=713395&CatId=0 . I'll probably be ordering from www.tigerdirect.ca

lol I think we have gone through just about everything so far in this thread. Maybe it was a combination of things; heat, those corrupted dll files, which might have messed up my drivers, a bit chain reaction.

*edit* found this for only $12.99 canadian, http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7821&CatId=0
RPM: 2400rpm
Air Flow: 38.41cfm
Noise Leve: 26dba

 

[iss]

it is genrally worth paying a few extra dollars for a Antec, Vantec, or panaflo fan as they are better built and last longer than the cheapo generic fans.

when you had the case open did you check to make sure that fan on the video card heatsink was working?

 

[GabooN]

I still have it open, yeah its blowing air out.

Tigerdirect has this Vantec, there is a silent version with 21dBA but only 27CFM, normal version is 23-42CFM and 35-37dBA

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=674642&CatId=0

*if you take a look at the link read the review someone posted, is it worth worrying about?

 

[GabooN]

I can't find a pic of the case I have, but I have the mount on the side near teh cpu where the funnel is. Would it be worth putting in an intake fan to blow into the case OR also there is a panel of holes along the bottom half of the side panel, forming a grate. Could I just mount a fan to the bottom part near the gpu assuming the holes line up with the screws? How far apart are the screws on an 80 mm fan?

If you don't know what i mean about the case I can take a pic..

oh and if i mounted a side panel fan i would still mount the front bottom case fan, just wouldnt have to worry about CFM as much.

*edit* this case has something similar. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=186331&Tab=1&NoMapp=0
In the second pic you can see the holes forming the grate. Mine goes the whole depth of the case though. Can you mount a fan to those holes?

 

[iss]

I can't find a pic of the case I have, but I have the mount on the side near teh cpu where the funnel is. Would it be worth putting in an intake fan to blow into the case OR also there is a panel of holes along the bottom half of the side panel, forming a grate. Could I just mount a fan to the bottom part near the gpu assuming the holes line up with the screws? How far apart are the screws on an 80 mm fan?

the funnel is the same setup dell uses it is to direct hot air away from the CPU. now I see why you might be having heat issues in the case. without a fan drawing cool air in and with the funnel preventing the one exhaust fan from drawing much air out of the case you probably are getting a pretty good heat buildup in the case.

80mm fans is pretty much standard in cases these days. the screw holes should be 3 inches apart for an 80mm. and 3 1\2 for a 120mm

Tigerdirect has this Vantec, there is a silent version with 21dBA but only 27CFM, normal version is 23-42CFM and 35-37dBA

the 27cfm for the case would be fine you only need air being drawn in, that doesnt require a tornado. and the 27cfm would be quieter.

I looked at the pic of the case in your link you can see two screw holes to the left of the screen for a fan. but that is a 120mm opening on that case.

 

[GabooN]

so would I be better off replacing the funnel with an intake fan? Or exhaust since its higher up in on the case? I'd get two of those silent vantec's. or I could get a vantec case fan for front and get an expansion slot fan for the back under the video card. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=120565&Tab=0&NoMapp=0

 

[iss]

you wont jurt anything removing the funnel but it does offer a little dust protection for the CPU. personallly I would get the case fan for the front and the expansion slot fan for the rear. one word of advice, get an ANTEC expansion slot fan the other models rarely last more than 6 months before they go belly up. ( i went thru several before trying the antec and I have one that is still running 4 years later)

 

[GabooN]

Okie thanks buddy, I think I had a bad case of a bit of everything Seems to be running pretty good now, i'm in the middle of studying for exams/starting a job so I havent been able to test it out too much (aka waste time playing games). I'll try to order some fans in the next couple days and let you know how that goes
Thanks for your help

*edit* tigerdirect has a Vantec expansion slot fan but no Antec. Expansion slot fans are intake fans correct? so that the gpu van gets some outside air?
here are the ones Tiger sells http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Recs=10&Nav=|c:494|c:804|&Sort=1
I'd prefer to order from them if I can.

 

[Sharam]

Considering your configuration I would get a better power supply, not necessarily higher amperage but more juice for +3.3V, +5V and +12V.

After you take cart of cooling, try disconnecting all your optical drives as well as the floppy drive, see if your system performs any better.

I am concerned with combined output mainly for the +3.3V and the +12V but keep in mind that the +3.3V and +5V have a combined max output together then all three have another combined max output.

Even if your system works well, I would still highly recommend a better power supply, try Antec I don't know about those Coolmax never had one.

 

[GabooN]

Okie thanks, I'll check that out once I get the fans my fans arrive.

 

[iss]

Expansion slot fans are intake fans correct? so that the gpu van gets some outside air?

expansion slot fans are exhaust fans there job is to draw air out of the case. this works well in conjunction with a fan in the front of the case drawing cool air in.

 

[GabooN]

oh yeah, makes sense The captions on tigerdirect werent very clear. Then having an intake up near the cpu would work well with the high rear exhaust fan.