Pricey 55-inch OLED TVs from LG, Samsung delayed until 2H 2013

By Rick ยท 23 replies
Oct 19, 2012
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  1. Remember those astonishingly thin, bright and feature-packed 55-inch OLED televisions slated to cost between $8,000 and $9,000? It appears those inordinately priced TVs are now inordinately delayed. The revised ETA is now a very distant "late next year", according to...

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  2. dawei1993

    dawei1993 TS Rookie Posts: 37

    Why what is the problem? Are production costs too high? What are the "worse-than-expected difficulties"?
  3. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,663   +1,949

    Good riddance. They weren't that good to start with. The only way such high price can be justified is if they offered 4K resolution with automatic up-scaling. But those are just regular 1080P-s, which for the money they ask make you puke...
  4. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,223

    Did you read the specs on these things?! it sounds like the most awesome, perfect TV ever. In fact, it's almost too good to be true.

    Turns out it is. :(
  5. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,663   +1,949

    Samsung and others are about to offer 5" phones with 1080P, which is 441 PPI. To offer TV-s amidst this with just about 50 PPI and yet 10 times the price is a shame.
  6. 63Jax

    63Jax TS Enthusiast Posts: 85

    Out of topic, but:
    I have a feeling that Apple will be the first to release an OLED monitor for desktop, but I wonder who will provide the displays for them, Samsung is out of discussion, maybe LG?
  7. jizzyburnizzy

    jizzyburnizzy TS Enthusiast Posts: 61   +7

    Cant wait for them to resolve the issues. I would really like an OLED TV
  8. Why do people care so much about all these new panel technologies, is it because they are so thin? Are you going to jack off to their thinness or something?

    A couple years ago the new LED TVs were all the rage (especially 3D ones), what, are they all obsolete and lame now? But forget those, even the modern LCD or Plasma panels are also pretty decent quality wise, but even so the majority of ordinary people cant really see much of a difference between these technologies with naked eye anyway, you need to be a tech enthusiast/perfectionist to actually feel the difference of a few ms less response time or slightly different blacks, etc. What really matters is what signal you feed into the TV, you can get a few thousand dollar TV and then still suffer the crappy picture because the your cable provider does not offer all the channels in HD and your DVD collection has inadequate resolution. (ha, HD, 1080p should have long since been the standard by now, however not only have we not gone to higher resolution, we are still having trouble fully switching to the so called HD).

    So really, in the end when bragging to your neighbors about your bleeding edge ultra high tech TV, you only get to say what it COULD potentially do if you feed it Blueray instead of what it actually does with the majority of the media.
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  9. I bet it is not the manufacturing but the shipping. You toss that box being light and the tv breaks in half. At that thin you just bump the box and it breaks. Unless it is the flex screen at which point you can fold the thing. At .01 ms it should be perfect for fast action movies or games. It will hypnotize your kids.
  10. The image quality in the current TVs is fine as it is, what matters more now is the quality of the input signal that goes into your TV rather than what the TV itself can do in perfect conditions.

    What we really need is to increase the panel size (the all around standard size now seems to be ~52-55 inches, there are some 65" ones available but they are expensive. I think the 65" should be made the new "standard size" instead) and then bump up the resolution. Of course with pixel count increase in the TVs you also run into the problems of input signal standards vs panel resolution, and how to convert/display the output if the resolutions do not match, that could really degrade the image quality.

    Would it be possible perhaps to do what Apple did with their screens and just double the pixel count over the standard 1080p ?

    I think, if something like that is doable (65" panel with double the current HD resolution), it could actually be worth 7-9k, unlike the yet another yearly "new breakthrough panel technology" with marginal image quality increase that people will hardly ever notice in real life conditions.
  11. OLED panels are very important because LCD technology has a lot of issues. OLED has much better colors and near zero latency, which should benefit not only gamers. for a comparison look the color quality on a smartphone like the samsung galaxy S2 or the display on the Playstation Vita. I don't know about Apple, they don't even have OLED on their phones.
  12. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,663   +1,949

    The answer is in the very human nature, to strive for better without stopping, that's all there is to it ;)
  13. howzz1854

    howzz1854 TS Evangelist Posts: 611   +94

    obviously you don't know much about the weakness of the LCD and Plasma, or you inherently don't care. technology evolve to improve on the shortcomings of current gen tech. OLED improves on the dredded back lighting issue that plagues all LCD and Plasma by lighting each individual pixels as oppose to the entire panel, this only brings pictures to even closer to real life. colors are brought to life, not to mention consume a fraction of the conventional tv sets.
  14. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,811   +472

    @howzz1854 LED backlit LCD covers that case you refer to pretty well. It might not have 0.01ms response but it has 5ms at a much better price.

    Still... when they get something to the market at a decent price, I'll have a look! The tech does sound interesting.
  15. howzz1854

    howzz1854 TS Evangelist Posts: 611   +94

    the LCD local dimming only covers quadrants. OLED are organic pixel based, in which each individual pixels can be controlled. that's like saying both cars have engines, but they're not the same, if you're comparing a corvette to a v6 accord.

    it's the same thing with every new technology. when LCD panel first came out, the top of the line cost upgrades of tens and thousands of dollars. but that's no reason to bash it.
  16. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,811   +472

    It's much better than quadrants. Usually around a couple hundred. Sure it's not quite pixel level...
  17. howzz1854

    howzz1854 TS Evangelist Posts: 611   +94

    so..... smaller quadrants... what's the difference, still nowhere near as good as organically lit pixel by pixel.
  18. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,811   +472

    Quadrants implies 4. I just pointed that out. I also already said I know it is not quite pixel level. What is the point of your post?
  19. waterytowers

    waterytowers TS Booster Posts: 101   +10

    I want a 4K monitor and I think a good size would be around 27inch, then a 17inch screen for my laptop. I don't really care that much about using a 4K TV, but the screen real estate would be very useful. I am not a fan of multi-screen and would rather a single high-res screen.
  20. howzz1854

    howzz1854 TS Evangelist Posts: 611   +94

    what is yours...

    btw you do know that you can still slice a quadrant into smaller quadrants and so on... skipped math class?
  21. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,811   +472

  22. howzz1854

    howzz1854 TS Evangelist Posts: 611   +94

    some lousy degree... at least I know you know how to count to 4.

    here's a slightly more advanced math for you, take a rectangle, slice it in 4, and take one out of 4, and slice it again, and take one out of another 4 and slice it again into 4. but that's probably a little too complex for you. sorry.
  23. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,811   +472

    Yes you can do that. But here's a spoiler for you. It is no longer called a quadrant.

    An area divided into quadrants has exactly 4 zones. No more. No less. If you call them quadrants, there are 4. The moment you divide again, you are no longer talking about a quadrant. Basic english. Refer to the earlier links. That is the definition of a quadrant.
  24. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,185   +469

    Those of you who wish to carry on your argument regarding the definition of quadrants, you are invited to do so via private conversation. I kind of think that's enough for this thread.

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