Radeon RX 580 vs. GeForce GTX 1060: 27 Game Battle
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USAvenger
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Some of you Nvidia fanboys better take your green glasses off and hope and pray that AMD stays in the game and brings the heat with Vega. The last thing that we need to see from Nvidia is Intel-level laziness and complacency due to lack of competition. It's been a tough week for AMD stock - will the impending Vega release be just what the doctor ordered?
Come on AMD, we believe in you.
- Nvidia GTX 1070 Owner
Come on AMD, we believe in you.
- Nvidia GTX 1070 Owner
CaptainTom
Posts: 414 +221
Wins across the board? What happened to this website? All good questions.
Look at that nice pretty graph we created for you on the last page, have a good look and get back to me
I read the review. You've done your very best to make out that the 580 is faster. Yoursuite of games that you have tested could not be more biased. Every single other respectable tech reviewer states the 1060 is faster (by 7% on average according to anandtech for example).
I'm not coming here anymore. The 1060 IS a better buy than the ageing power hungry 580. As every other respectable tech site has concluded. People shouldn't listen to you.
I completely disagree, and boy are you a fanboy lol.
I am sorry but look at the games AMD wins in: BF1, Deus Ex, Warhammer, Doom, Titanfall, The Division, and more - these are mostly large open world games or online MP games that will have you busy for 100's of hours.
Meanwhile besides GTA V, most of the Nvidia wins are jokes nobody plays like Gears and Mirrors Edge. Even TW3 is only a slight win.
So if anything it seems like Techspot went out of their way to give the 6GB 1060 a chance.
P.S. Most sites I have looked at tend to say the 580 is better, so I am unsure of what you are talking about. Furthermore Anandtech has been a shill site for 5 years, so please don't make me laugh by bringing that up.
CaptainTom
Posts: 414 +221
imo Nvidia eclipsed Intel in hubris a long time ago. The second they launched a Titan for $999 even though the 7970 was holding the performance crown for a year is clear start of their truly dirty practices.
They figured if they doubled their marketing budget, payed off devs to break their games, and called something "Titan" - people would buy it without knowing AMD has better cards. Nvidia was right.
MoeJoe
Posts: 837 +442
This Polaris rehash is a non starter for much of the Radeon installed base.
Vega or nothing ...
Although I don't agree with the OP I think there is a MASSIVE point you missed here. You are comparing a 220W+ card against a 120w card, you said efficiency is important to you, yet you reccomended a card that uses on average a whopping 100 watts more power to get barely a 10% performance improvement.
You should try comparing it to an overclocked 1060, however you will struggle to get anywhere near the level of power consumption that the 580 is using.
Just its a pretty crazy point to have missed in this review, the 580 is basicly just a highly clocked RX480, this has taken it totally out of the efficiency band of the chip/arch, hence the massive bump in power/heat.
Stingy McDuck
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You guys are monsters. You denied ScubaRhys of another nVidia victory over AMD, thus ruining his life.
I don't get such fanboyism over GPU manufacturers. What do people get out of it? Confirmation that they made the right choice by getting married to a brand for life? BTW, I really hope that AMD outperforms nVidia soon. I always buy nVidia and could really use a price drop on their products.
I don't get such fanboyism over GPU manufacturers. What do people get out of it? Confirmation that they made the right choice by getting married to a brand for life? BTW, I really hope that AMD outperforms nVidia soon. I always buy nVidia and could really use a price drop on their products.
NightAntilli
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Many might disagree with me, but seeing the financial situation of AMD, if the choice is this close, it might be the better choice in the long term to go with the RX 580. AMD needs the funds to keep competing with nVidia. And if they can keep it up, we will see more fair prices for our graphics cards.
Unless you want three different extremely overpriced Titan cards in less than two years again of course, then by all means, keep buying nVidia.
Unless you want three different extremely overpriced Titan cards in less than two years again of course, then by all means, keep buying nVidia.
koblongata
Posts: 591 +341
Nvidia has nothing to envy about in the technology field that is something they created.Lets's summarize: CUDA cores and Physics beaten by GCN and Vulkan(previously Mantle updated to DirectX12), lower performance in DirectX12 games and a general feeling of bribery floating around devs and game creators, also with OEM most of them from Taiwan. The only real advantage they hold over AMD is the lower power consumption and the better overclockability of their chips, but that's somenthing related to TSMC, a state owned giant that pumped tens of billions of $ in the fab facilityand that is not a Nvidia merit. So please, tell me if there is something left besides hipe?
koblongata
Posts: 591 +341
See, Vulkan is clearly far more efficient, we can't just let it die simply because nVidia has a bigger market share, and performs better in less efficient proprietary technologies. Wouldn't it be better that we can have 20% more frames just by forcing the developer to use Vulkan?
And Freesync too, you need to pay quite a bit more for nVidia's proprietary flicker-free offering. Again, wouldn't it be better that all monitor manufactures has only one, free, standard to worry about?
Support AMD is like supporting a healthier direction for the industry. That's a no brainer.
And Freesync too, you need to pay quite a bit more for nVidia's proprietary flicker-free offering. Again, wouldn't it be better that all monitor manufactures has only one, free, standard to worry about?
Support AMD is like supporting a healthier direction for the industry. That's a no brainer.
I agree 100%
- 980Ti owner
USAvenger
Some of you Nvidia fanboys better take your green glasses off and hope and pray that AMD stays in the game and brings the heat with Vega. The last thing that we need to see from Nvidia is Intel-level laziness and complacency due to lack of competition. It's been a tough week for AMD stock - will the impending Vega release be just what the doctor ordered?
Come on AMD, we believe in you.
- Nvidia GTX 1070 Owner
- 980Ti owner
USAvenger
Some of you Nvidia fanboys better take your green glasses off and hope and pray that AMD stays in the game and brings the heat with Vega. The last thing that we need to see from Nvidia is Intel-level laziness and complacency due to lack of competition. It's been a tough week for AMD stock - will the impending Vega release be just what the doctor ordered?
Come on AMD, we believe in you.
- Nvidia GTX 1070 Owner
While I try to adopt a positive bias for AMD, I see once again that things don't look very well for them in power consumption department. Consumes similar power to GTX 1080 and performs like a 1060? No, that's not acceptable. I don't mean to say this is a bad product, in fact I really think it's a competitive product but with that power consumption numbers it's hardly a good architecture. If their midrange card consumes like the competition's high end, how much power will their flagships require?
AMD has a better architecture, at least for DX12 and for compute intensive tasks, but they lack support or investment in semiconductor tehnology.Nvidia benefits from TSMC's advanced silicon supported by Taiwan's government and there might be also some technological issues between AMD and TSMC.
Squid Surprise
Posts: 5,596 +5,227
He didn't miss that point at all... it was mentioned quite clearly that if you desire a GPU that is power efficient, then Nvidia was the way to go. But, as has actually been mentioned in previous articles, AMD has realized that in most cases, buyers couldn't care less how power-hungry their cards are, and are only seeking performance vs cost.... And if that's strictly what you are looking for, AMD is a slight winner - assuming you aren't going to overclock your card...
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maestro0428
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Bought a Sapphire RX580 (4gb) for 199 at newegg last week. Plenty fast for my 1080p screen. First time Ive gone to the red team in years. Glad I did though, for the money, this thing can't be beat.
Steve is the new Anand, this is it folks!
And I'm glad he doesn't try to justify himself to these fools, and let's face it: you can't reason with them. Toxic is an apt description actually, even though it may come off as harsh on first reading it.
Let's just not hope for our own selfish reading pleasures that some mega corporation swallows
Steve in 4 years time
And I'm glad he doesn't try to justify himself to these fools, and let's face it: you can't reason with them. Toxic is an apt description actually, even though it may come off as harsh on first reading it.
Let's just not hope for our own selfish reading pleasures that some mega corporation swallows
Steve in 4 years time
Nice article overall. As always, the amount of work that goes into these direct comparisons is greatly appreciated!
I'm still holding onto my rock solid GTX 780 for now, but here's hoping that Vega's arrival shifts prices even a little bit further down. With a multi-monitor setup and usually at least 60% uptime each day, I do pay attention to power efficiency, but the $50 price premium of the EVGA FTW+ over the base 1060 models is a bit much. I remember the days not-so-long-ago when the midrange aftermarket cards had only a $10-20 premium on them...
A few typos I noticed doing a quick read (more thorough will have to wait until after dinner). Yes, I'm *that* guy, but I just submitted my thesis so the brain is still making note of these things:
On page 1, talking about power consumption: You note "For a system running a 7700K @ 4.9GHz" but the system specs state 4.5 GHz.
On page 3, talking about the Warhammer results: In "this appears to had a rather large lead to the Radeon GPUs" I believe you meant "hand a rather large lead."
On page 8, below the chart of just low level APIs: "GTX 1060 and RX 470" is probably supposed to reference the RX 480.
Once again, keep up the good work!
I'm still holding onto my rock solid GTX 780 for now, but here's hoping that Vega's arrival shifts prices even a little bit further down. With a multi-monitor setup and usually at least 60% uptime each day, I do pay attention to power efficiency, but the $50 price premium of the EVGA FTW+ over the base 1060 models is a bit much. I remember the days not-so-long-ago when the midrange aftermarket cards had only a $10-20 premium on them...
A few typos I noticed doing a quick read (more thorough will have to wait until after dinner). Yes, I'm *that* guy, but I just submitted my thesis so the brain is still making note of these things:
On page 1, talking about power consumption: You note "For a system running a 7700K @ 4.9GHz" but the system specs state 4.5 GHz.
On page 3, talking about the Warhammer results: In "this appears to had a rather large lead to the Radeon GPUs" I believe you meant "hand a rather large lead."
On page 8, below the chart of just low level APIs: "GTX 1060 and RX 470" is probably supposed to reference the RX 480.
Once again, keep up the good work!
amghwk
Posts: 1,549 +1,540
LoL. Exactly.
