Refuse a data center transmission line on your property, and power companies may force it through anyway

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WTF?! The government really isn't helping itself in its effort to reverse the public's anti-data center feelings. A new report highlights how, when private citizens refuse to sell access to their land for these facilities' transmission lines, power companies can sometimes use legal authority that allows private property rights to be taken without a landowner's consent.

While 70% of Americans are now opposed to data centers being built near their homes, it's not just the enormous, pollution-and-noise-spewing buildings they're against. There's also the required new power infrastructure, such as transmission lines that often need to cross private property.

In these situations, power companies often try to purchase an easement from the owner, allowing the infrastructure to cross part of the property. One assumes that if the owner refuses, that would be the end of the matter, but The Conversation writes that utilities may be able to force the acquisition through eminent domain.

The article was written by Aaron Walayat, an assistant professor of law at the University of Dayton whose research includes eminent domain. He explains that although eminent domain is a government power, states can grant condemnation authority to regulated utilities carrying out projects deemed to serve the public.

The Fifth Amendment allows private property to be taken for public use as long as the owner receives just compensation. However, the exact rules, approval processes, and rights available to landowners vary between states.

This doesn't mean a power company can simply turn up and seize an entire farm because Amazon or Microsoft wants another data center. These disputes usually involve an easement covering only the portion of land required for transmission lines, substations, or other infrastructure.

The utility must also follow state procedures and demonstrate that the project serves a legally recognized public use. Owners can challenge whether the taking is necessary, whether the proposed route is appropriate, and how much compensation they should receive.

The controversial part is determining whether infrastructure built largely to power a privately owned data center really qualifies as being for public use.

Courts have often sided with utilities when a transmission line also supplies electricity to local residents, adds capacity to the wider grid, or improves reliability. Walayat points to rulings in South Dakota and Vermont where courts allowed such takings because the projects provided broader public benefits.

The Mississippi Supreme Court reached a different conclusion in a case involving a transmission line that crossed the state without providing electricity to Mississippi customers.

The US Supreme Court has historically interpreted public use broadly. Its infamous 2005 ruling in Kelo v. City of New London allowed property to be taken for an economic development project involving private companies. The decision prompted dozens of states to strengthen their eminent-domain laws.

The issue is becoming increasingly relevant as AI companies search for huge amounts of land and electricity. It was recently reported that farmers have rejected offers reaching $15 million in Pennsylvania and $80 million in Wisconsin as data center developers hunt for suitable locations. Some landowners in Kentucky have also been warned that eminent domain could eventually be used if negotiations fail.

Public opposition is growing elsewhere. Residents have complained about rising electricity bills, water consumption, constant fan noise, pollution, and generous tax breaks for some of the world's richest companies. Missouri voters even removed several local officials following approval of a $6 billion data center project.

There have also been controversies surrounding xAI's gas turbines in Memphis, Amazon data centers blamed for health concerns in Oregon, and Meta wastewater linked to the discovery of a rare bacterium in Cheyenne.

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We need to re-evaluate eminent domain laws in the United States.

Many of these laws were written around assumptions that infrastructure projects would provide broad and obvious public benefits. Today, we're seeing eminent domain used in situations where the primary beneficiaries can be private corporations with enormous market valuations.

Whether you're talking about AI data centers, pipelines, transmission corridors, or other large-scale projects, the threshold for what qualifies as "public use" deserves a serious review.

You don't need to invent an "AI land grab" to criticize what's happening.

The stronger criticism is that we're applying decades-old eminent domain frameworks to modern projects where the line between public necessity and private corporate benefit is becoming increasingly blurred.
 
Yet another piece of mindless anti-AI propaganda.

Most Americans are opposed to any kind of industrial facility being built near their homes. I bet 100% oppose car factories in their backyard, yet we all love our cars.
What's described about transmission lines / eminent domain etc. is partly true, but it's neither new, nor related to datacenters in particular - it's been like that decades before datacenters existed.
Next time try using the Bible to spread AI hysteria.
 
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This article should be entitled "Leftist Academic Discovers 200-year old Eminent Domain Law". Nor would I be surprised to learn this "assistant professor of law" has funding ties to CCP-linked groups, which have been desperately trying to slow AI development in the US, in order to grant China the edge.
 
This article should be entitled "Leftist Academic Discovers 200-year old Eminent Domain Law". Nor would I be surprised to learn this "assistant professor of law" has funding ties to CCP-linked groups, which have been desperately trying to slow AI development in the US, in order to grant China the edge.
This isn't "Leftist academic + CCP plot." It's landowners pushing back against eminent domain being used for private transmission lines that mostly benefit hyperscale AI data centers.
Eminent domain was always meant for genuine public use (roads, hospitals, actual utilities serving the public). When it's used to seize land so Microsoft/Google can power their multi-billion-dollar AI training clusters, people are right to question it.
You can be pro-AI without acting like every corporate land/power grab is beyond criticism.
 
Yet another piece of mindless anti-AI propaganda.

Most Americans are opposed to any kind of industrial facility being built near their homes. I bet 100% oppose car factories in their backyard, yet we all love our cars.
What's described about transmission lines / eminent domain etc. is partly true, but it's neither new, nor related to datacenters in particular - it's been like that decades before datacenters existed.
Next time try using the Bible to spread AI hysteria.
This isn't "mindless anti-AI propaganda."
Criticizing how eminent domain is being used for massive private AI data center infrastructure isn't the same as being against AI or industry. The scale and speed of AI power demand is new, even if the legal tool isn't.
We can support AI advancement without pretending every corporate land grab and transmission line project automatically qualifies as unquestionable "public use." Local communities bearing the costs (land, noise, water, grid strain) while the massive profits go to hyperscalers is a fair thing to debate.
The "everyone hates factories in their backyard" line is a deflection. The question is whether the public benefit justifies the use of eminent domain in these specific cases, not whether we like cars.
 
This isn't "Leftist academic + CCP plot." It's landowners pushing back against eminent domain being used for private transmission lines that mostly benefit hyperscale AI data centers.
You should have read the article. There hasn't been one single case of any landowner having their land seized, nor any such project using eminent domain for such projects. This is one Left-winger, attempting to stir up anti-AI hype.

And anyone who believes US datacenters "don't benefit anyone but hyperscalers" should go and finish their lollipop in the corner while the adults speak. This is a fight for control of THE major industry of the 21st century, an industry that will eventually make the computer and information revolution pale in comparison.
 
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Learn to read. There hasn't been one single case of any landowner having their land seized, nor any such project using eminent domain for such projects. This is one Left-winger, attempting to stir up anti-AI hype.

And anyone who believes US datacenters "don't benefit anyone but hyperscalers" should go and finish their lollipop in the corner while the adults speak. This is a fight for control of THE major industry of the 21st century, an industry that will eventually make the computer and information revolution pale in comparison.
No one's claiming it's already happening at massive scale. The article is about the threat and the legal mechanism being available, which is exactly why landowners and communities are pushing back now, before it becomes routine.


You're doing the same thing you always do: dismiss any criticism of how AI infrastructure is being rolled out as "anti-AI Leftist hype."


We can support the technology without pretending every eminent domain easement for hyperscaler power lines is automatically sacred public use. The public benefit argument gets weaker when the primary winners are trillion-dollar companies and the costs (land, grid strain, local disruption) fall on regular people.
 
No one's claiming it's already happening at massive scale.
Stop using the language of propaganda. It's not happening at ANY scale.

the article is about the threat and the legal mechanism being available, which is exactly why landowners and communities are pushing back now, before it becomes routine.
You're becoming even more ridiculous. No landowner is pushing back against "AI taking my land". As for your pretense of an immediate threat, the law is 200 years old. Where was your fake outrage last year?

... without pretending every eminent domain easement for hyperscaler power lines is automatically sacred
Another attempt to distort reality to generate outrage. There have been NO SUCH eminent domain requests even made, much less granted. Are you being paid by the CCP, or worse: an unwitting dupe working for free?
 
Stop using the language of propaganda. It's not happening at ANY scale.


You're becoming even more ridiculous. No landowner is pushing back against "AI taking my land". As for your pretense of an immediate threat, the law is 200 years old. Where was your fake outrage last year?


Another attempt to distort reality to generate outrage. There have been NO SUCH eminent domain requests even made, much less granted. Are you being paid by the CCP, or worse: an unwitting dupe working for free?
No one said eminent domain has already seized thousands of farms for AI. The article (and the growing public concern) is about the mechanism and the trend, hyperscalers needing massive power, utilities using eminent domain threats, and communities pushing back before it becomes normalized.

Not to mention the CCP is all-in on AI, pouring billions into their own data centers, chips, and models while trying to catch up to the US.

You sound more paranoid than the "Leftists" you love to mock.
 
This article should be entitled "Leftist Academic Discovers 200-year old Eminent Domain Law". Nor would I be surprised to learn this "assistant professor of law" has funding ties to CCP-linked groups, which have been desperately trying to slow AI development in the US, in order to grant China the edge.

Holy Strawman!
 
Yep, the resident nutjob somehow made it about Trump.
Literally the first sentence in the article refers to the government, so yes 'somehow' I managed to make it about the government...
But you carry on defending your sleazy, criminal, sex offender who everybody - I'm talking worldwide here, a concept tricky for the Window Licking Moronsphere to grasp I know - thinks is one of the most unpleasant human beings to ever walk the earth and I'll carry on being the nutjob yes?
 
As expected the AI apologists make this about China and the usual propaganda of needing to steamroll over everyones land for datacenters and proceed to pollute the air and water because OMG China might win the mythical datacenter war.
The Chinese are going to spend on datacenters with their own chips no matter how much the US wants to try to outdo them or attempt to stifle innovation.
And I think China is going to win in the long run as companies in the west are abandoning every part of the tech market except the datacenter space, which is also propping up the entire US economy. China will catch up on tech manufacturing in the long run, and will supply the wide gap that other companies have left on the consumer tech market.
The strawman argument nonsense is amazing, can't come up with a reasonable reply so you blame China.
 
This isn't "mindless anti-AI propaganda."
Criticizing how eminent domain is being used for massive private AI data center infrastructure isn't the same as being against AI or industry. The scale and speed of AI power demand is new, even if the legal tool isn't.
We can support AI advancement without pretending every corporate land grab and transmission line project automatically qualifies as unquestionable "public use." Local communities bearing the costs (land, noise, water, grid strain) while the massive profits go to hyperscalers is a fair thing to debate.
The "everyone hates factories in their backyard" line is a deflection. The question is whether the public benefit justifies the use of eminent domain in these specific cases, not whether we like cars.
Where exactly is it said that eminent domain can't be used for things that are "massive" or private?
There's no such requirement.
Courts have ruled that "public use" actually means "public purpose", what's being built should benefit the public, not to be publicly owned. Pipelines, power lines, railroad tracks, shopping centers and stadiums etc. etc. - these things are mostly private, yet they undoubtedly benefit the public.
AI is the greatest technological transformation in the history of humanity, are you seriously claiming it's not of public importance???

So the article is mindless anti-AI propaganda, after all.
 
Literally the first sentence in the article refers to the government, so yes 'somehow' I managed to make it about the government...
No, you managed to make it about Trump, despite the fact that the vast majority of eminent domain cases occur at the state and local level, and in fact the largest such eminent domain project in the US today is California's high-speed "train to nowhere" project, supported by a Democrat governor and Democrat state government, and a project roundly criticized by both Trump and other Republicans.

But you carry on defending your sleazy, criminal, sex offender
Joe Biden showered with his own underage daughter until age 14, the "highly inappropriate acts" in those showers caused Ashley Biden lifelong psychological issues, according to her own diary.

When Democrats learned of this-- they offered Biden another term.
 
As expected the AI apologists make this about China and the usual propaganda of needing to steamroll over everyones land for datacenters
Strawman argument. No one's land is being taken for datacenters. Meanwhile, several hundred times a year eminent domain cases take someone's land for OTHER purposes ... yet liberals uniformly support and fund these public-project boondoggles.

... and proceed to pollute the air and water
This. Is. Not. Happening. Peel off that tinfoil from around your head and step outside your basement fortress.

because OMG China might win the mythical datacenter war.
Mythical? Good god, learn history. Do you not understand how China -- the world's most powerful nation for 1,000+ years -- was converted into a flaccid backwards nonentity easily dominated by nations 1/20 its size ... all because it lost a "mythical" industrial age race?

Forty years from now, there are two futures possible. Either the US controls AI and remains a world superpower, with the standard of living and ability to control our own destiny that such entails. Or we wind up selling nothing but corn and pork bellies to China, who beats the drum the rest of the world marches to.
 
Where exactly is it said that eminent domain can't be used for things that are "massive" or private?
There's no such requirement.
Courts have ruled that "public use" actually means "public purpose", what's being built should benefit the public, not to be publicly owned. Pipelines, power lines, railroad tracks, shopping centers and stadiums etc. etc. - these things are mostly private, yet they undoubtedly benefit the public.
AI is the greatest technological transformation in the history of humanity, are you seriously claiming it's not of public importance???

So the article is mindless anti-AI propaganda, after all.
You're right on the black-letter law, and I never claimed otherwise. "Public use" has meant "public purpose" since Berman v. Parker and Kelo, and private ownership has never been the disqualifying factor. Pipelines, railroads, stadiums - all private, all fine under the doctrine. That was never my argument.

What I said is that the doctrine being broad doesn't mean every specific project automatically clears it, and it doesn't settle whether the policy is good. Those are two different questions. You're answering "is this legally permitted in the abstract" when the actual fight in these cases is narrower: is a given transmission line serving general grid capacity, or is it effectively built to serve one hyperscaler's private contract? Did the utility follow the statutory process? Is the compensation adequate? That's where these cases are actually being litigated, not at the level of "AI is important."

And "AI is transformative, therefore public purpose is obviously satisfied" isn't really a legal argument, it's rhetoric standing in for one. Courts don't grant eminent domain based on how important an industry is in the abstract. If they did, you could justify almost anything by pointing at its economic significance.

Worth noting too: Kelo technically won in court, but it triggered such backlash that 40+ states passed laws afterward specifically narrowing eminent domain for private economic development. That split between "legally permitted" and "publicly acceptable" is basically the debate we're having right now, not something that gets resolved by citing the doctrine.

So no, the article isn't wrong that eminent domain can be used for private, massive infrastructure. It's raising the question of whether it should be, in these specific cases, and that's a legitimate debate whether or not you personally think AI's importance settles it.
 
The strawman argument nonsense is amazing, can't come up with a reasonable reply so you blame China.
The organizer of more than a dozen "grassroots" anti-AI groups, and a man who's testified as a "local resident" against datacenter projects at multiple local board meetings is Jack Tensley, a member and party organizer for the Party of Socialism and Liberation, a Marxist-Leninist group funded by Chinese billionaire Roy SIngham.

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This is just one prong of the CCP's virulent anti-AI campaign in the US.

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