Report: 19-year-old DOGE team member "Big Balls" provided network support to cybercrime gang

[toooooot]

Personally, I'm not a Trump supporter, but the amount of people that are outraged about the attempt to tap the brakes on wasteful spending/fraud is crazy. If even 10% of the claims of waste are true, that's an incredible amount of savings that can be used for deficit reduction or more valuable spending. I do wish they would put more effort into looking at the Department of Defense. I'm sure there's a ton of waste there too. Hopefully, that's on the list to address.

It is because it is not about DOGE, spending or other small things.
It is about "I did not want these people to be running the country, I want the ones I voted for to do it"

 

[godrilla]

- No, accepting unverified claims and passing them off as truth makes you part of a cult (we would have said "useful *****" back in the day but that hurts people's feelings now so have to soften the language).

Yes I am part of cult that wants a better future our offspring I am guilty as charged.

 

[wiyosaya]

The dedicated website. https://doge.gov/ says otherwise. Maybe they are too transparent for your liking?

Independent investigations of the site indicate that it does not tell the truth. https://www.snopes.com/collections/doge-rumors-collection/
Trust and DOGE are oxymorons.

DOGE’s hastily-launched site has already been hacked: ‘This is a joke of a .gov site’

DOGE’S website launch got off to a rocky start after two pages on the site were defaced

www.independent.co.uk

DOGE 'inflated' its biggest successes with 'error-filled data': report

Elon Musk’s promises of transparency as his Department of Government Efficiency continues to claim massive savings in the federal budget were thrown into doubt by a new report Thursday that uncovered still more mistakes with his alleged successes.After the tech billionaire’s task force quietly...

www.rawstory.com

DOGE Makes Its Latest Errors Harder to Find

Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has repeatedly posted error-filled data that inflated its success at saving taxpayer money. But

dnyuz.com

 

[godrilla]

Independent investigations of the site indicate that it does not tell the truth. https://www.snopes.com/collections/doge-rumors-collection/
Trust and DOGE are oxymorons.

DOGE’s hastily-launched site has already been hacked: ‘This is a joke of a .gov site’

DOGE’S website launch got off to a rocky start after two pages on the site were defaced

www.independent.co.uk

DOGE 'inflated' its biggest successes with 'error-filled data': report

Elon Musk’s promises of transparency as his Department of Government Efficiency continues to claim massive savings in the federal budget were thrown into doubt by a new report Thursday that uncovered still more mistakes with his alleged successes.After the tech billionaire’s task force quietly...

www.rawstory.com

DOGE Makes Its Latest Errors Harder to Find

Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency has repeatedly posted error-filled data that inflated its success at saving taxpayer money. But

dnyuz.com

Semantics. On the macro level are those figures that are allegedly adjusted for the errors still significant or is confirmation bias playing a roll in the decision making as a blanket of disapproval across the board?

 

[wiyosaya]

Semantics. On the macro level are those figures that are allegedly adjusted for the errors still significant or is confirmation bias playing a roll in the decision making as a blanket of disapproval across the board?

The thing is, if you look at what DOGE claims to have saved, true or not, its only a tiny fraction of the annual US Federal budget. IMO, it is all smoke and mirrors designed to make people think DOGE is actually doing what DOGE says they are doing even though they are missing other issues that are arguably more important.

There is, arguably, waste and fraud in the US Government. However, a chainsaw approach will never solve the underlying issues. Nor does saying that there is waste and fraud in the US Government make that statement one that is based in truth.

Unlike saying Trump was the massive fraud in the 2020 election based on the evidence presented in all the court cases at the time - none of which proved Trump's assertions of massive election fraud.

 

[lonetac]

They are listing the itemized expenditure of the laundry list that can be viewed as waste. Whether it is considered fraud that would take time outside the average attention span of an online troll. We are about 1 quarter in, I guess the take home message is have some patience. If the average voter sees that itemized list as a waste of their contributed tax money then Imo they will likely vote away from the party that is supporting that waste.
The conspiracy theorists were proven right to be paranoid of the waste and bureaucracy. The collectivist on the other hand have no problem volunteering everyone else's freedom and property even after these truths.

Cutting benefits of veterans and senior citizens is not waste.

Giving billions of contracts to a failed car company is.

Understand what waste is?

Have some patience as they gut every program that helps normal americans while they remove every roadblock to allow the ultra wealthy to exploit us even more? What are you going on about here?

Is it ethical to fire inspector generals investigating you for breaking laws? How do you justify that?

You understand how many mistakes DOGE has made and backtracked because they are making decisions without understanding the ramifications? Begging air traffic controllers to come back to work after being fired, or our parks and rec's workers shutting down public parks? How about misleading everyone about politico's funding or the ss checks, it goes on and on. Without independent journalism, everyone would still be believing this massive crock of you know what. They got caught red handed over and over. That should not instill confidence.

Everyone wants waste eliminated. How about doing it in a meaningful, calculated way instead of just making rich buddies more rich.

Itemized list, man, thats a good one. You mean the one that they have to change every day as they get pointed out how many lies and misleading numbers they put? You also realize how they are cheating and lying to you? If a contract was worth 20 million and 18 million has been spent and Elon cuts it, they claim they saved us 20 million, not 2 million. You are falling for it hook and sinker. DOGE is probably costing us more than its saving us at this point.

Every senior citizen I know is feeling the heat right now due to medicaid and social security. Of course most of them voted against their own self interests because billionaires funded programs saying its good just like is happening now in Wisconsin solely so Elon can sell more cars to his failed car company. He needs the supreme court to come save his ***. How do you see any of this as good rationally?

 

[godrilla]

Cutting benefits of veterans and senior citizens is not waste.

Giving billions of contracts to a failed car company is.

Understand what waste is?

Have some patience as they gut every program that helps normal americans while they remove every roadblock to allow the ultra wealthy to exploit us even more? What are you going on about here?

Is it ethical to fire inspector generals investigating you for breaking laws? How do you justify that?

You understand how many mistakes DOGE has made and backtracked because they are making decisions without understanding the ramifications? Begging air traffic controllers to come back to work after being fired, or our parks and rec's workers shutting down public parks? How about misleading everyone about politico's funding or the ss checks, it goes on and on. Without independent journalism, everyone would still be believing this massive crock of you know what. They got caught red handed over and over. That should not instill confidence.

Everyone wants waste eliminated. How about doing it in a meaningful, calculated way instead of just making rich buddies more rich.

Itemized list, man, thats a good one. You mean the one that they have to change every day as they get pointed out how many lies and misleading numbers they put? You also realize how they are cheating and lying to you? If a contract was worth 20 million and 18 million has been spent and Elon cuts it, they claim they saved us 20 million, not 2 million. You are falling for it hook and sinker. DOGE is probably costing us more than its saving us at this point.

Every senior citizen I know is feeling the heat right now due to medicaid and social security. Of course most of them voted against their own self interests because billionaires funded programs saying its good just like is happening now in Wisconsin solely so Elon can sell more cars to his failed car company. He needs the supreme court to come save his ***. How do you see any of this as good rationally?

While I will not discount all those talking points as propaganda I do believe in checks and balances. Currently Democrat Judges are challenging the Trump administration and DOGE as they should. If there is grounds of ethics unconstitutional behavior they surely will prevail. Have faith. The sky isen't falling.

 

[VectorVortec]

The problem isn't that they're trying to cut government spending. The problem is that it's a bunch of clowns and young kids who know next to nothing about how government actually operates. They're not using a scalpel to cut the fat precisely, they're hacking away at it with a machete.

It's one screw up after another and there's plenty more to come. If liberals did something like this then Trump and his cronies would be up in arms about it demanding firings, impeachment, and calling for sprawling investigations.

But because it's Trump and his cronies doing it they expect everyone to look the other way and ignore even the biggest screw ups. It's quite ironic, because they're the ones always accusing the other side of playing by double standard.

You assume that the government "operates". That is more than 99% incorrect. The government just wastes money. For example, Biden gave John Podesta $278 billion to give away with no strings from Biden. DOGE discovered this, and it made you mad?

 

[lonetac]

While I will not discount all those talking points as propaganda I do believe in checks and balances. Currently Democrat Judges are challenging the Trump administration and DOGE as they should. If there is grounds of ethics unconstitutional behavior they surely will prevail. Have faith. The sky isen't falling.

Thanks, I agree for the most part.

How about Elon paying voters in Wisconsin to sway them to vote in a way that gives him a partisan supreme court justice to approve his car sales? Should he be able to pay people to vote in a way that benefits him?

 

[godrilla]

Thanks, I agree for the most part.

How about Elon paying voters in Wisconsin to sway them to vote in a way that gives him a partisan supreme court justice to approve his car sales? Should he be able to pay people to vote in a way that benefits him?

From my recollection he was promoting people voting or registering to vote. He didn't say how to vote and there is no way he can legally pay someone to vote for Trump directly. If there was anything there legally democrats would have their day in court. What do you think it looks like to those who are apolitical who drive Tesla's and Democrats who drive Tesla's and are getting thier vehicles defamed for their own hard earned money? If you don't get your way burn the whole system down even with friendly fire as collateral damage. Why do innocent bystanders living their normal lives have to suffer the left's seasonal temper tantrum? Unfortunately we can't change the past but we can live civil together by respecting people's private property.

 

[Shaitan]

Personally, I'm not a Trump supporter, but the amount of people that are outraged about the attempt to tap the brakes on wasteful spending/fraud is crazy. If even 10% of the claims of waste are true, that's an incredible amount of savings that can be used for deficit reduction or more valuable spending. I do wish they would put more effort into looking at the Department of Defense. I'm sure there's a ton of waste there too. Hopefully, that's on the list to address.

You must be joking. If an administration removes members of FBI, CIA, nuclear/atomic or NASA-involved people without any consideration, this is not a red light, it's freaking alarm which needs to stop everything.
You live in 2025. The amount of data harvested by the foreign companies and the penetration of government agencies should be of utmost concern. Leaking data by a ketamine-consuming billionaire or using an non - approved app to coordinate attacks on Yemen is insane.
Instead of having a professional audit and responsible and experienced people going through the records, you have an erratic lunatic "cutting costs" in the key area where expertise is hard to get and years of study needed.
Cherry on top is the retarded measure to terminate the Education Department.
All hail China, our new overlord, in less than a decade. The orange monkey took care of your pride USA. And fcked over us in Europe in the process..

 

[Beerfloat]

Trust me it's for good causes 35 billion dollars in debt and the trajectory is only getting worse.

When you write something like this your alarm bells should really be going off. Make you think, hang on a second, that can't be right. Trust me, indeed.

You're a lightweight. Just babbling feels.

 

[lonetac]

From my recollection he was promoting people voting or registering to vote. He didn't say how to vote and there is no way he can legally pay someone to vote for Trump directly. If there was anything there legally democrats would have their day in court. What do you think it looks like to those who are apolitical who drive Tesla's and Democrats who drive Tesla's and are getting thier vehicles defamed for their own hard earned money? If you don't get your way burn the whole system down even with friendly fire as collateral damage. Why do innocent bystanders living their normal lives have to suffer the left's seasonal temper tantrum? Unfortunately we can't change the past but we can live civil together by respecting people's private property.

Oh cmon now... He is influencing people to vote a certain way, that is indefensible and is also illegal in Wisconsin. A billionaire giving people money is absolutely influencing voters. They give folks money, folks vote for them. Can they gaurantee the vote, no, but that doesnt matter and isnt the heart of the problem. Can you influence elections by buying votes?

You cannot pay people to influence their votes.

I dont care if democrats drive teslas. Its their choice, Im not playing identity politics.

And right now the whole system is being burned down because billionaire man babys didnt get their way. Innocent bystanders living their normal lives are suffering due to trumpsters tantrum about losing 2020's election.

Perhaps we could start respecting eachother and stop lying about reality.

 

[godrilla]

When you write something like this your alarm bells should really be going off. Make you think, hang on a second, that can't be right. Trust me, indeed.

You're a lightweight. Just babbling feels.

exactly trusting everything with blind faith is exactly that. Especially what got us to 35 billion dollars in debt for so called good causes. Unfortunately when you have confirmation bias you only have selective trust issues.

 

[Beerfloat]

exactly trusting everything with blind faith is exactly that. Especially what got us to 35 billion dollars in debt for so called good causes. Unfortunately when you have confirmation bias you only have selective trust issues.

And there you go again. You're so good at decimals, you could be working for DOGE.

 

[godrilla]

And there you go again. You're so good at decimals, you could be working for DOGE.

Apparently I'm not young enough.

 

[godrilla]

Oh cmon now... He is influencing people to vote a certain way, that is indefensible and is also illegal in Wisconsin. A billionaire giving people money is absolutely influencing voters. They give folks money, folks vote for them. Can they gaurantee the vote, no, but that doesnt matter and isnt the heart of the problem. Can you influence elections by buying votes?

You cannot pay people to influence their votes.

I dont care if democrats drive teslas. Its their choice, Im not playing identity politics.

And right now the whole system is being burned down because billionaire man babys didnt get their way. Innocent bystanders living their normal lives are suffering due to trumpsters tantrum about losing 2020's election.

Perhaps we could start respecting eachother and stop lying about reality.

Perhaps democrats don't want to challenge this is because would shoot themselves in th foot? I mean incentivesing mass migration for potential voting and indirectly changing the electoral college so that blue states get more voting power is okay. Also in Blue states the homeless get bussed, fed and paid to vote on election month. I love selective outrage makes things simple and easy.


ggs!

 

[Beerfloat]

Perhaps democrats don't want to challenge this is because would shoot themselves in th foot? I mean incentivesing mass migration for potential voting and indirectly changing the electoral college so that blue states get more voting power is okay. Also in Blue states the homeless get bussed, fed and paid to vote on election month. I love selective outrage makes things simple and easy.


ggs!

It's true. We're being selective and not wasting energy getting upset about implausible context-free nonsense that bubbles up from the right wing insane-o-sphere. There are enough real problems to be concerned about.

 

[godrilla]

It's true. We're being selective and not wasting energy getting upset about implausible context-free nonsense that bubbles up from the right wing insane-o-sphere. There are enough real problems to be concerned about.

Not going to lie some right wingers are pushing for Marshall law ( could be just online trolls fishing for likes) But that is disgusting imo!

 

[lonetac]

Perhaps democrats don't want to challenge this is because would shoot themselves in th foot? I mean incentivesing mass migration for potential voting and indirectly changing the electoral college so that blue states get more voting power is okay. Also in Blue states the homeless get bussed, fed and paid to vote on election month. I love selective outrage makes things simple and easy.


ggs!

You just make stuff up as you go now to feel like you won an argument?

Dude, you just went off the deep rails. Dont expect anyone to take you serious after that nonsense.

you are obviously a partisan hack incapable of absorbing facts.

 

[godrilla]

You just make stuff up as you go now to feel like you won an argument?

Dude, you just went off the deep rails. Dont expect anyone to take you serious after that nonsense.

you are obviously a partisan hack incapable of absorbing facts.

Someone thought it was serious enough to comment thought. How else would we learn if we don't have civil conversions instead of talking down to people we don't agree with? I guess you prefer the echo chamber or intimidate others to speak up? How else would you know what the boogeyman maga is thinking without actually speaking to a person ?

 

[Ojref]

This site might as well rename itself to ArsSpot, considering how its trying its darndest to emulate Ars Technica in agitprop political. I'm probably going to stop following unless something changes.

 

[takemaru]

Trust me when I say for a "moderate" you are lining too far to the right....it's ok as most Trump supporters are ashamed to display publicly who they voted for....or are you also going to deny you voted for him?

Less ashamed, more like getting beaten, shot at, fired and doxed.

And the few billion DOGE cuts are like droplets in the sea, when there is a 4 trillion budget deficit, and growing.

 

[The Talking Tech]

Less ashamed, more like getting beaten, shot at, fired and doxed.

And the few billion DOGE cuts are like droplets in the sea, when there is a 4 trillion budget deficit, and growing.

And we all know those DOGE's "cuts" are only an excuse for Trump to replace those former government employees with loyalists MAGA minded personnel in a few months down the line.

 

[takemaru]

And we all know those DOGE's "cuts" are only an excuse for Trump to replace those former government employees with loyalists MAGA minded personnel in a few months down the line.

1st... as he should, and should have done in his first term. Politics 101. You are saying it, as if it would be some grand cospiracy When a new government gets into power, it's first move is to fire every loyalist from the institutions from the opposing side.

2nd: DOGE is getting rid of whole departments and programs, it is hard to replace employees, when the job position doesn't exit anymore.