Report links Chinese military to majority of cyberattacks against US

By Rick ยท 13 replies
Feb 19, 2013
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  1. According to the New York Times, U.S-based security research firm Mandiant claims it has traced the "overwhelming majority" of cyberattacks targeting American businesses to an innocuous 12-story office building located in Shanghai, China. The tower, American intelligence officials claim, is...

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  2. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,223

    As strange as this may sound, this is a by-product of communism. China knows they cannot keep up with the rest of the world on innovation and so they hack into businesses to steal intellectual property.

    This is also why business are in favor of CISPA. Not only do the Chinese steal American ideas, they then make fake products and sell them back to Americans. Obama has been criticized for letting it happen, and it's probably why he's determined to get a law like CISPA passed...(or an executive order in his case)
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  3. Ranger1st

    Ranger1st TS Evangelist Posts: 348   +124

    JDAM's.... just 1 single JDAM will solve this whole thing and when the next 'unit' pops up, JDAM it.. till they get the F'in message.
  4. lipe123

    lipe123 TS Evangelist Posts: 718   +236

    Except that China owns over $1trillion of US debt right now? It's not that easy to just attack someone that controls 1/10th of your economy.
    A better approach would be to get companies to take a better approach towards security and not leave their critical networks open to the internet.
  5. Ranger12

    Ranger12 TS Evangelist Posts: 621   +122

    "finger the issue" is a new expression for me, interesting...
    Anyway, it seems for now we will just bend over and take it. However if China continues on this path we will eventually have to confront them and I think it would be easier to do it now instead of waiting until it escalates. Having said that I think communism is a proven failure and China will eventually be forced to move away from that system of government much like Gorbachev tried, but what he did was too little, too late.
  6. jeffz6

    jeffz6 TS Rookie Posts: 79

    Yeah, and America is innocent from such cyber attacks themselves.
  7. Issue fingerer!
  8. Ohh poor innocent America. When they do it, it's for the good of mankind when some one else do it it's terrorism. Bunch of spineless cowards.
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  9. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    ^ Nobody said terrorism...
  10. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,976   +2,527

    I expect that at some point, China will refuse to roll over America's debt to them. The rich Chinese will move to America, repossess everything in sight, and turn capitalist. (I'm not sure that's what you meant about, "communism failing" though)....
  11. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +96

    It could be the case CC, but I think they will do nothing, just keep getting the 'return' on their investment for as long as possible (count Saudis in it as well because they are #2 on the list). Unless offcourse, politicians stop fighting and really take measures to cut down the ballooning deficit (for it to happen they also need to stop starting new wars and winding down old ones) ...... so my calculated guess is we'll still be talking about this in few years time. By the way why we never hear western military establishments "cyber" ventures against 'enemies'? I am pretty certain it is done all the time as well.

    On a more serious note, I feel that we are at crossroads, where a new empire is emerging and the old one, is just starting to decline (at least financially).
  12. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,223

    I have that fear too. We are spending money so fast it's scary. Medicare and Social Security are what are ballooning out of control (google 'unfunded liabilities'), and they were specifically left out of Obama's inauguration speech. China's economy is growing at like 10% a year, while we are at 2%. Our debt is growing at a trillion dollars a year and Obama has no plan, nor has even admitted it's a problem. Congress hasn't even passed a budget in 4 years!

    The scariest part for me is that no one is talking about it. Obama goes on 60 minutes and doesn't get a single tough question. The media is not doing their job of keeping politicians honest. In that sense we are rather like China. In China, the media is run by the govt, here the media is free... but what's the difference if they won't hold their feet to the fire and demand some problems be fixed?
  13. Sphynx

    Sphynx TS Enthusiast Posts: 41

    Not to mention that China is a nuclear state. If China is attacked with JDAM, you can bet China's military response will not involve conventional weapons.
  14. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,976   +2,527

    The Chinese are our esteemed colleagues in both business, finance, and perhaps even in negotiations on nuclear weapons with North Korea.

    Using kluged together weapons is an uncouth way of dealing with our partner nation.

    I recommend either honest to God newest generation smart weapons, EMP pulse weapons, or carpet bombing the Nike corporation's sneaker factories. In the case of the Nike bombings, this will cause the largest possible number of underage collateral civilian casualties, while not damaging their infrastructure as a whole. Which in turn would freely allow the continued flow of Apple products between our two countries.

    After all, if we bombed Foxconn to send a message, half of the US population would go into iPhone withdrawal, the other half would be jonesing for their stinking iPads.

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