Romania's election results annulled after systems saw over 85,000 cyberattacks

[Puiu]

LOL, what? The US Constitution does not "regulate campaigns and their funding" -- nor, I believe, does your Romanian Constitution. And you and I both know that had the incumbent won, there would have been no such ruling, despite the fact that many "foreign social media accounts" expressed support for him.

I note this isn't the first time the Romanian ruling fascists have tried this. They banned another candidate from even running for President last year -- an attack that caused a breakup of your ruling coalition, when the National Liberal Party withdrew in disgust over the politically motivated ruling.

Edit: having glanced at the Romanian Constitution, its only reference to candidates is that they not "militate against ... the sovereignty, integrity or independence of Romania". By that touchstone, your current pro-EU candidate is constitutionally barred from holding office, as membership in the EU necessitates -- by law -- a partial surrendering of sovereignty -- the entire reason the U.K. had to go through Brexit to regain full independence.

You glanced weirdly and found nothing of value. Seriously, why do I know the US constitution better than you?

As for the Romanian constitution, which you "glanced at"... this is how you glance at something:
1. this is for financing

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a few extracts from that document:
Art. 7 – (1) Upon receiving a donation, the identity of the donor shall be mandatorily checked and registered, irrespective of the public or confidential character of the same. (2) Upon the donor’s written request, its identity remains confidential if the donation does not exceed annually 10 minimum gross salaries at the country level.
Art. 11 – (1) Donations from other states or foreign organizations, as well as from foreign natural or legal persons are forbidden.
Art.24 – (1) The financing of the electoral campaign either directly or indirectly by foreign natural or legal persons is forbidden

2. the Romanian Constitution:

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the article you wanted about the Constitutional court and elections:
Article 52
(1) The Constitutional Court annuls the elections if the voting and the determination of the results took place by fraud in such a way as to change the assignment of the mandate or, as the case may be, the order of candidates who can participate in the second round of voting. In this situation, the Court will order the repeat of the voting round on the second Sunday from the date of the annulment of the elections.
(used google translate for this one, but it's fairly accurate)

please start with "LOL" again and tell me that what I wrote is wrong because you glanced at it. if you are going to support a traitor like CG, at least do your research, nobody cares about your opinion on "freedom" on such an important historical moment for romanians.

 

[Endymio]

You glanced weirdly and found nothing of value. Seriously, why do I know the US constitution better than you?

Please explain where in the US Constitution you believe it regulates campaign financing. Or save us time and admit you were wrong.

As for the Romanian constitution, which you "glanced at"... this is how you glance at something:
1. this is for financing

Oops again! You're quoting the Romanian legal code, not your own Constitution. Do you know the difference?

Even worse, that law specifies election "fraud". It says nothing whatsoever that allows you to cancel an election because some foreign social media figures supported a candidate. Your ruling party canceled the election because it didn't like the results -- the pathway to authoritarian fascism.

Since you're having trouble locating your own Constitution, allow me to help:

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[Puiu]

Please explain where in the US Constitution you believe it regulates campaign financing. Or save us time and admit you were wrong.


Oops again! You're quoting the Romanian legal code, not your own Constitution. Do you know the difference?

Even worse, that law specifies election "fraud". It says nothing whatsoever that allows you to cancel an election because some foreign social media figures supported a candidate. Your ruling party canceled the election because it didn't like the results -- the pathway to authoritarian fascism.

Since you're having trouble locating your own Constitution, allow me to help:

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For the "legal code", I added it to provide context. Both the legal code and constitution work to defend the country.

Art 82 of the constitution: The result of the elections for the position of President of Romania is validated by the Constitutional Court

Art 2 says: National sovereignty belongs to the Romanian people, who exercise it through their representative bodies, established through free, periodic and fair elections, as well as through referendums.

Notice the "fair elections"? in short, the constitutional court acted correctly as per its vested powers.

The constitution was protected and next time fair election will be held.

As for the US constitution, The Elections Clause gives the power to Congress and States to regulate the when and how. And just like in Romania those regulations compliment the constitution to defend you and your rights and to define what is right or wrong in an election.

Talking about the constitution without the legal context makes no sense. You need both to define things like fair elections.

 

[scavengerspc]

Groups like Cato were predicting a full year before the invasion that Biden's Ukraine policies would lead to all-out war with Russia ... and that was before Biden wrote a NATO MAP for Ukraine and held NATO 'training exercises' in Ukraine, only a few miles from the Russian border. After months of publicly stating that membership for Ukraine was "non-negotiable" and refusing to hold talks on the issue, Biden sent Kamala to the Munich Security Conference to tell the world that it was now "in Ukraine's own hands". Russia invaded five days later.

As for the Middle East, It wasn't until Biden dropped sanctions on Iran, giving them tens of billions of dollars in new oil revenues, that they gave Hamas the green-light for the Oct 7 terror attack. And in Syria, the US has long supported the radical Islamist terror groups that finally managed to overthrow Assad.

Wow ok, well the thing is, there is nothing new to consider.
I guess it's an agree to disagree thing because nobody in the world even talks about things like that. Just here, and Fox "news".
So let's be clear and then you go last.
There is nothing here that can even remotely allow a straight line drawn between this administration actions, or lack there of, and the start of all the wars they "started".
And I won't even mention conflicts that have been going on for years to decades, or that planning for actions that did start in the last 4 years were being planned before the Biden administration.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda is NOT validation.

Just a little something to think about, clearly, please:

Hamas planned Oct. 7 from before 2014, with final decision made by 5 leaders – report

Sources close to leadership of terror group's armed wing describe planning and execution of devastating onslaught; training briefly frozen after 2014 war, okay given in 2021

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Endymio]

I won't even mention conflicts that have been going on for years to decades, or that planning for actions that did start in the last 4 years were being planned before the Biden administration.

Had the Biden Administration not attempted to shoehorn Ukraine into NATO, Russia would not have invaded. This is inconvertible. Ukraine's own negotiator at the failed 2022 Peace talks later admitted that Russia was prepared to withdraw fully in exchange for Ukraine remaining neutral. Ukraine says they took the deal to NATO, which told them to 'keep fighting'

As for Hamas, clearly the attack had been planned for many years -- but held in abeyance and never green-lighted. I'll freely admit the link here is more circumstantial, but the fact remains that Iran, as the primary sponsor of Hamas, gave the final go-ahead. What was it that changed at this particular point in time?

 

[Endymio]

Notice the "fair elections"? in short, the constitutional court acted correctly as per its vested powers.

So you're claiming that because the Constitution states election should be "fair", that you can ignore any election results you don't like? Nothing in your Constitution -- nor anywhere in your legal code -- defines "fair" to mean "not liked by foreign social media figures". It's even more absurd when ALL your candidates received some measure of foreign endorsements and favorable coverage ... just not as much as the outsider who won. Ploys like this to refuse to surrender power have been concocted by authoritarian regimes since the 19th century.

As I said, it's your country. If you wish to take the fascist route, it'll be your own citizens that prevent it -- not us.

Edit: I see now that Romania's ruling party -- who lost the election -- are now trying to square their original annulment with the legal code by now "opening an investigation" into campaign funding irregularities. It changes nothing. The fact remains that when the election was cancelled, there was absolutely no evidence of any violation of law to justify it.

 

[emmzo]

LOL, what? The US Constitution does not "regulate campaigns and their funding" -- nor, I believe, does your Romanian Constitution. And you and I both know that had the incumbent won, there would have been no such ruling, despite the fact that many "foreign social media accounts" expressed support for him.

I note this isn't the first time the Romanian ruling fascists have tried this. They banned another candidate from even running for President last year -- an attack that caused a breakup of your ruling coalition, when the National Liberal Party withdrew in disgust over the politically motivated ruling.

Edit: having glanced at the Romanian Constitution, its only reference to candidates is that they not "militate against ... the sovereignty, integrity or independence of Romania". By that touchstone, your current pro-EU candidate is constitutionally barred from holding office, as membership in the EU necessitates -- by law -- a partial surrendering of sovereignty -- the entire reason the U.K. had to go through Brexit to regain full independence.

Thanks for explaining to this guy how things work in a normal democratic society. The problem is many Romanians are still comunists. If they "feel" someone is guilty, they want to arrest him immediately. They know better without proof if an authority tells them so. "If someone is not with us is against us", it's their motto. This led to this coup d'etat in which the government very easily convinced many people the Russians influenced elections. "It was an attack", they said, yet the Russian ambassador wasn't even called to give explanations. Nor the Romanian embassy in Moscow protested. They are "certain" with no proof, other than "allegations". Moreover, it turns out the other candidates had more exposure to TikTok and the whole social media overall. And now, they don't even talk about Russian interference, they say the guy wanted to overthrow the government and they investigate and pressure people around his circle. Because people are stupid, they said he is involved in the infamous Legion movement of the 1940s, a deeply fascist movement, because of some taken out of context comments he made and called his bodyguards legionnaires. It turns out his bodyguards were fighters in the French foreign legion... But they don't stop, some friend of his personal bodyguard, whom at some point he met, also a former fighter in the French legion was caught with knifes and a pellet gun coming to Bucharest along with 10 buddies. They said they wanted to overthrow the government. It's a hilarious premise. And why would Georgescu do that when he has the majority of popular democratic vote? Moreover, how is this related to Russia? Ask this Puiu guy, he will explain it all!

 

[emmzo]

As I said, it's your country. If you wish to take the fascist route, it'll be your own citizens that prevent it -- not us.

They can't do anything to this guy, except bending the law like Putin did for Navalny. But we are not Russia! Still people restrain from revolting because they are afraid a National Emergency is declared which will lead to taking all our rights completely. But sooner or later they will hold another election and they will be crushed again, there's no doubt about that. What will they do then? Cancel again? That would make us more authoritarian than a banana republic as an European country. To see how comunism go, they declared right wing suveranist parties anti European even though they never said so and they have representatives in the European Parliament. I wouldn't be surprised if they will ban them altogether. They keep telling us only them can keep us in the European Union even though no one else ever said they wanted out. They critiqued EU? Yes. They complained we are treated badly? Yes. But nobody ever thought about Roexit. Yet, we are living in fear the Russians are coming and they will take our country. Classic propaganda!

 

[Puiu]

They can't do anything to this guy, except bending the law like Putin did for Navalny. But we are not Russia! Still people restraint from revolting because they are afraid a National Emergency is declared which will lead to taking all our rights completely. But sooner or later they will hold another election and they will be crushed again, there's no doubt about that. What will they do then? Cancel again? That would make us more authoritarian than a banana republic as an European country.

Ah yes, the mister "I don't know" voting for a Putin supporter which is pushing communist economic changes is calling me a communist. It's ironic.

All of the fear "national emergency" you are pushing proves that you were brainwashed by the propaganda.

In the end all you are doing is defending criminals because you voted for them. Democracy has in the end won and russian puppets were caught cheating the election system.

 

[Puiu]

So you're claiming that because the Constitution states election should be "fair", that you can ignore any election results you don't like? Nothing in your Constitution -- nor anywhere in your legal code -- defines "fair" to mean "not liked by foreign social media figures". It's even more absurd when ALL your candidates received some measure of foreign endorsements and favorable coverage ... just not as much as the outsider who won. Ploys like this to refuse to surrender power have been concocted by authoritarian regimes since the 19th century.

As I said, it's your country. If you wish to take the fascist route, it'll be your own citizens that prevent it -- not us.

Edit: I see now that Romania's ruling party -- who lost the election -- are now trying to square their original annulment with the legal code by now "opening an investigation" into campaign funding irregularities. It changes nothing. The fact remains that when the election was cancelled, there was absolutely no evidence of any violation of law to justify it.

"So you're claiming that because the Constitution states election should be "fair", that you can ignore any election results you don't like? " - if laws were broken then yes.

I don't get it. How is it that hard to understand that a law is a law and nobody is above the law? Why are you so against the law?

"It's even more absurd when ALL your candidates received some measure of foreign endorsements and favorable coverage" - all funding of all candidates was declared and was used according to the law. the only one proven to have not done so is CG.

"If you wish to take the fascist route," - defending the country and the law makes you a fascist? I thought you are from the US, not Russia. Or are law abiding citizens called fascists in the US?

Again with your "glances". No dude, no political party is opening "investigations". The justice system is doing that in order to arrest all people involved in trying to destroy democracy in Romania. For example DIICOT is one of them (Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism) and they opened the criminal case on the 6th of December, in less than 2 days after the secret files were made public, not "now". The General Prosecutor's Office did the same and several other justice departments did too. People who supported CG have already been lifted and some of the influencers who received money even fled the country.

 

[emmzo]

Ah yes, the mister "I don't know" voting for a Putin supporter which is pushing communist economic changes is calling me a communist. It's ironic.

All of the fear "national emergency" you are pushing proves that you were brainwashed by the propaganda.

In the end all you are doing is defending criminals because you voted for them. Democracy has in the end won and russian puppets were caught cheating the election system.

That's a classic comunist: if I voted differently I'm a traitor. Should I be jailed, dude? Get over yourself! Also, you prove my point. You have established he's a criminal, before the Justice has pronounced itself.

 

[emmzo]

"So you're claiming that because the Constitution states election should be "fair", that you can ignore any election results you don't like? " - if laws were broken then yes.

I don't get it. How is it that hard to understand that a law is a law and nobody is above the law? Why are you so against the law?

"It's even more absurd when ALL your candidates received some measure of foreign endorsements and favorable coverage" - all funding of all candidates was declared and was used according to the law. the only one proven to have not done so is CG.

"If you wish to take the fascist route," - defending the country and the law makes you a fascist? I thought you are from the US, not Russia. Or are law abiding citizens called fascists in the US?

Again with your "glances". No dude, no political party is opening "investigations". The justice system is doing that in order to arrest all people involved in trying to destroy democracy in Romania. For example DIICOT is one of them (Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism) and they opened the criminal case on the 6th of December, in less than 2 days after the secret files were made public, not "now". The General Prosecutor's Office did the same and several other justice departments did too. People who supported CG have already been lifted and some of the influencers who received money even fled the country.

That proves nothing, no criminal case is prosecuted. All allegations were thwarted.

 

[Squid Surprise]

That proves nothing, no criminal case is prosecuted. All allegations were thwarted.

No... they weren't... that's why many fled the country... and why a trial is imminent...

 

[emmzo]

No... they weren't... that's why many fled the country... and why a trial is imminent...

No one fled the country, lol, you're delusional. Moreover he himself should have tried to flee, he didn't. A trial is imminent? They have no proof yet, what are you talking about. And even then he has to be convicted. A trial doesn't mean guilty or are you a commie too?

 

[Endymio]

How is it that hard to understand that a law is a law and nobody is above the law? Why are you so against the law?

I'm glad to see you've stopped the false claims about the US and Romanian Constitutions. However you're still wrong. There's nothing in the Romanian legal code that says an election can be tossed simply because a candidate was liked by a bunch of TikTok accounts. Nothing even close. Nada. Zip. Zero. It's even more ironic in that most of the social media support I saw wasn't for Georgescu, but rather his opponent in the election. Funny you have no problem with that.

And to cap it all, even Georgescu's opponent admits that cancelling the election was undemocratic and unjustified:

"...Georgescu's opponent has also denounced the court's decision, saying democracy was being "trampled" by the state. "We should have gone ahead with the vote," Lasconi said. "We should have respected the will of the Romanian people, whether we like it or not."

Romania's election rerun

Shock result of presidential election has been annulled following allegations of Russian interference

theweek.com

 

[emmzo]

I'm glad to see you've stopped the false claims about the US and Romanian Constitutions. However you're still wrong. There's nothing in the Romanian legal code that says an election can be tossed simply because a candidate was liked by a bunch of TikTok accounts. Nothing even close. Nada. Zip. Zero. It's even more ironic in that most of the social media support I saw wasn't for Georgescu, but rather his opponent in the election. Funny you have no problem with that.

And to cap it all, even Georgescu's opponent admits that cancelling the election was undemocratic and unjustified:

"...Georgescu's opponent has also denounced the court's decision, saying democracy was being "trampled" by the state. "We should have gone ahead with the vote," Lasconi said. "We should have respected the will of the Romanian people, whether we like it or not."

Romania's election rerun

Shock result of presidential election has been annulled following allegations of Russian interference

theweek.com

It's even more ironic that the current president boasted about his Facebook community when he won, but now it's the Russians. Even so, 2 million people can judge by themselves. NO ONE interfere in the actual voting! It's another narrative now, that somehow all these people are illiterate fools and were easily deceived. I can't tell you how insulting that is. Especially when you have all legacy media against him and praising the current... should I say rulers? Yep, it sure feels medieval. In the meantime the king, err .. sry the president, declared he needs to uphold democracy by prolonging his mandate, even though he is forbidden by the Constitution. The Supreme Court, who answers to no one btw, supported his claim AFTER the president ruled it's the law. I'm telling you, it's unbelievable and surely embarrassing and shameful for our country.

 

[Puiu]

I'm glad to see you've stopped the false claims about the US and Romanian Constitutions. However you're still wrong. There's nothing in the Romanian legal code that says an election can be tossed simply because a candidate was liked by a bunch of TikTok accounts. Nothing even close. Nada. Zip. Zero. It's even more ironic in that most of the social media support I saw wasn't for Georgescu, but rather his opponent in the election. Funny you have no problem with that.

And to cap it all, even Georgescu's opponent admits that cancelling the election was undemocratic and unjustified:

"...Georgescu's opponent has also denounced the court's decision, saying democracy was being "trampled" by the state. "We should have gone ahead with the vote," Lasconi said. "We should have respected the will of the Romanian people, whether we like it or not."

Romania's election rerun

Shock result of presidential election has been annulled following allegations of Russian interference

theweek.com

"There's nothing in the Romanian legal code that says an election can be tossed simply because a candidate was liked by a bunch of TikTok accounts. " - this is why just taking a "glance" makes zero sense. you do not know why the elections were cancelled and yet here you are talking as if you've lived through it.

The elections were stopped because of evidence of illegal financing of Calin Georgescu from outside the country meant to disrupt the elections. Not because of "tik-tok". Tik-tok was just one place were millions of $ were spent on pro-CG propaganda. There were printed posters, banners, calendars, pins and flyers in every city and even during election day flyers with CG were being distributed by people. Do you know how much he declared he spent? ZERO.

I don't get it. What do you stand to gain from arguing with me on things that are in the public domain?

 

[Puiu]

It's even more ironic that the current president boasted about his Facebook community when he won, but now it's the Russians. Even so, 2 million people can judge by themselves. NO ONE interfere in the actual voting! It's another narrative now, that somehow all these people are illiterate fools and were easily deceived. I can't tell you how insulting that is. Especially when you have all legacy media against him and praising the current... should I say rulers? Yep, it sure feels medieval. In the meantime the king, err .. sry the president, declared he needs to uphold democracy by prolonging his mandate, even though he is forbidden by the Constitution. The Supreme Court, who answers to no one btw, supported his claim AFTER the president ruled it's the law. I'm telling you, it's unbelievable and surely embarrassing and shameful for our country.

"NO ONE interfere in the actual voting! " - correct, which is why after Russia interfered, the elections were canceled.

Thankfully we dodged a bullet and CG now has a massive criminal case on his hands.

this is for you

"A woman? No. Because women have a different role in society. Not to be the president. They can't cope. You have to bow before the woman, because she gives birth to the human being, as Pete Șuțea used to say. Both you and I are drawn from women. To be on this fierce battle zone is no fun. Only a man supported by a strong woman can do that." - Călin Georgescu's answer to the question "Is Romania ready to have a woman president?"

Misogyny 101. I guess a woman's role is to give birth and help men be presidents.

 

[Endymio]

The elections were stopped because of evidence of illegal financing of Calin Georgescu from outside the country

The original court ruling claimed merely that "Russia" had used a large number of TikTok and Telegram accounts to show support for the candidate.

"...The court's decision comes after intelligence documents were declassified, suggesting Georgescu benefitted from a mass influence operation – conducted from abroad – to interfere with the result of the vote...."

Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round

The move comes after allegations of Russian influence via social media on the first round of voting.

www.bbc.com

"...Romania's intelligence agency said Georgescu was massively promoted on social media platform TikTok through coordinated accounts, recommendation algorithms and paid promotion...TikTok denies giving Georgescu special treatment, saying his account was labelled as a political account and treated like any other...."

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So far, the campaign financing allegations are entirely without evidence. You now have Romanian Gestapo agents raiding the homes of major Georgescu supporters, looking for evidence. But whether they find it or not, it'll certainly have a chilling effect on anyone thinking of voting for him again if and when democracy is restored to Romania.

 

[Puiu]

The original court ruling claimed merely that "Russia" had used a large number of TikTok and Telegram accounts to show support for the candidate.

"...The court's decision comes after intelligence documents were declassified, suggesting Georgescu benefitted from a mass influence operation – conducted from abroad – to interfere with the result of the vote...."

Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round

The move comes after allegations of Russian influence via social media on the first round of voting.

www.bbc.com

"...Romania's intelligence agency said Georgescu was massively promoted on social media platform TikTok through coordinated accounts, recommendation algorithms and paid promotion...TikTok denies giving Georgescu special treatment, saying his account was labelled as a political account and treated like any other...."

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www.reuters.com

So far, the campaign financing allegations are entirely without evidence. You now have Romanian Gestapo agents raiding the homes of major Georgescu supporters, looking for evidence. But whether they find it or not, it'll certainly have a chilling effect on anyone thinking of voting for him again if and when democracy is restored to Romania.

"So far, the campaign financing allegations are entirely without evidence. " - again FALSE.

Stop reading reading articles that don't go into details, it's just... sad.

I can't be bothered to translate these, but here you go, these are the declassified files:

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It shows clear interference of external forces in the elections, huge sums of money being used and the CLEAR benefactor of all of this was CG.

"Romanian Gestapo agents" - you've shown your true colors. you have clear disdain for the law and now I understand why you are so against everything.

And do the police in the US just sit and do not nothing in cases where it was proven that illegal activities are being done by somebody? Why the negativity against our police force for doing their job?

In the end, CG supporters cry and cry about the annulment of the elections, but the evidence is clear and the justice system in Romania is doing a very good job. They can deny all they want, the highest court has spoken, the files are declassified and arrest have started.

 

[emmzo]

"NO ONE interfere in the actual voting! " - correct, which is why after Russia interfered, the elections were canceled.

Thankfully we dodged a bullet and CG now has a massive criminal case on his hands.

this is for you

"A woman? No. Because women have a different role in society. Not to be the president. They can't cope. You have to bow before the woman, because she gives birth to the human being, as Pete Șuțea used to say. Both you and I are drawn from women. To be on this fierce battle zone is no fun. Only a man supported by a strong woman can do that." - Călin Georgescu's answer to the question "Is Romania ready to have a woman president?"

Misogyny 101. I guess a woman's role is to give birth and help men be presidents.

I don't care of his personal opinions, nor am I here to defend them. Call him what you want, but he is a patriot. We should not bow to anyone! We love Europe, we are allies, but not servants. That's all he said and you called him a Russian agent. And we didn't dodge a bullet, we shot democracy in the head. But don't fret, elections are going to be held again. Even if they ban this guy, another will rise. You don't understand, people are fed up with lies, a system that betrayed them. It's inevitable, you just don't see it. The will of the people can only temporary get held and Romania has chosen sovereignty.

 

[Endymio]

I can't be bothered to translate these, but here you go, these are the declassified files:

One question. If it's all as cut-and-dried as you portray, why is even Georgescu's opponent -- the man he supposedly "illegally beat", calling the election annulment unjustified and a blow to democracy?

 

[emmzo]

One question. If it's all as cut-and-dried as you portray, why is even Georgescu's opponent -- the man he supposedly "illegally beat", calling the election annulment unjustified and a blow to democracy?

They have already started to ostracize her, even though a week ago she was their beacon for democracy! These people turn against each other only to destroy Georgescu. It is a comedy of the grotesque.

 

[Puiu]

One question. If it's all as cut-and-dried as you portray, why is even Georgescu's opponent -- the man he supposedly "illegally beat", calling the election annulment unjustified and a blow to democracy?

Simple, Lasconi had the backing of almost all large and small parties going into the 1v1. Polls were putting here in front of CG. It was her best shot at becoming president.

After she sent a "letter" to Trump without the approval of her party members she's most likely not going to be in the next elections. Actually most if not all candidates will step down (some forcefully by the justice department).

 

[Puiu]

They have already started to ostracize her, even though a week ago she was their beacon for democracy! These people turn against each other only to destroy Georgescu. It is a comedy of the grotesque.

Since you again don't know why, it's all caused by, "drum rolls please", CG. If he didn't the law in the elections would have been as normal as they could (for Romania at least).

You are simply defending a traitor, a pro-legionnaire, pro-russian and an an advocate of misogyny (since you wanted the context I even gave you the translated quote in an above comment)

Please, tell us more how "you don't know" what he's talking about in his insane speeches.