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Samsung tops mobile sales, Windows Phone 7 and Blackberry plummet

By Rick ยท 13 replies
May 16, 2012
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  1. According to figures by research firm Gartner, Samsung once again holds the top spot when it comes to global sales of mobile phones. The Korean-based company managed to bump Nokia...

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  2. Microsoft strategy has been let someone else create a market, then enter market with lower cost product and slowly take over the market. I'm not sure this strategy is going to work with phones.
  3. KG363

    KG363 TS Guru Posts: 523   +15

    Is WP7 down or is Windows Mobile down? I have a feeling that Microsoft's total market is down but WP7 is on the increase.
  4. Rick

    Rick TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 4,512   +65

    The source material says "Windows Phone" which is different than "Windows Mobile".

    Even if Windows Mobile was counted, you'd be hard pressed to find a new phone which ships with Windows Mobile 6.x. It certainly wouldn't count for any appreciable sales.

    Collectively, Windows Phone and Mobile was hovering around 6-7% last year, I believe. So even if you do lump together Mobile and Phone with the assumption Mobile is bleeding users, it doesn't look too good.
  5. I think Microsoft hurt itself the most by limiting the hardware manufacturers could use.
    ie: core count.
  6. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 605   +67

    The article and title are completely misleading. Windows Phone 7 has not plummeted. How could it even plummet to 1.9% when it started out at ZERO to begin with!? Some kind of reverse plummet, perhaps?

    The fact is that Windows Phone has been on the rise, albeit a very slow rise. It's estimated to be around 3-4%
    No, the source says "Microsoft software", ya nub.
  7. Tekkaraiden

    Tekkaraiden TS Evangelist Posts: 996   +93

    I had no idea Samsung had that much of the Android market.
  8. And so the Microsoft fanboy train rolls.
  9. Rick

    Rick TS Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 4,512   +65

    Okay, first... The article you linked shows numbers from Kantar WorldPanel (I.e. NOT Gartner) and in fact shows different data all together -- not sales data but sustained market share. Not only that, but it only shows that data for seven select "major" markets. Apples and oranges, Tekkaraiden.

    In fact, the same site has the survey from Gartner covered too and the numbers jibe: http://wmpoweruser.com/latest-gartner-numbers-for-q1-2012-reveals-few-surprises/

    If you want to split hairs, the *same* site you linked also says:

    Gartner's chart shows "Microsoft" with exactly 2.7125 million units sold during Q1 2012 -- the same number wmpoweruser refers to as "Windows Phone". In Q1 of last year (again, according to Gartner's data), "Microsoft" sold 27% more phones; hence, Windows Phone suffered according to your own source of info.

    Sales are down and that's the point, as said in the title and said in data. Total sustained market share might be up over a given period of time, but not sales. This is about sales.

    WP7 did not have 0% market share or have 0 sales prior to Q1 2012. WP7 had already been out for some time. I'm not sure what your point is here.
  10. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,634   +98


    I think generally people have 'herd' mentality, so if someone you know/trust say something is good, they usually will prefer it over something unknown, hence, WP being in a disadvantageous position, despite it being a much better OS compared to the likes of Android. Anyway, as things stands, I think it will take about 2/3 years of sustained effort from MS and its partners to do 'right things' on the technical side of things as well as marketing.
  11. Being an owner of a Windows Phone handset, I can tell you that my hopes and complaints are probably the same of many others. Update the OS's features and quickly. That and please tell the world that at least some of us will get to upgrade to Windows 8 when it comes out or that you won't simply drop Windows Phone 7 from the picture a year from now like rumors state.
  12. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,634   +98

    Absolutely true, IF MS doesn't upgrade at least 'higher end' WP phones of today to WP8, it will be as if 'they've shot themselves in the head' IMHO.
  13. I guess people really do like the Galaxy Note?
  14. iPhone5 sells two million units in the first 24 hours. Windows7 could only manage not much more in three months when it was reasonably hot. Windows8 is not yet out but it's going to compete on the same terms; and loose. Microsoft got rich jacking it's partners who shipped the hardware on peanuts margin whist they got dollars of licensing per unit for zero effort per additional unit. That's a parasitical model which only works if the host needs the parasite for some other reason (needed to run office). The parasite keeps Incompatible products unattrsctive so controls the pc market.

    Samsung has broken out of that loop. iPhone made the market (Internet phone appliance with app store) and Samsung is entering it at a lower price point. Anyone trying to compete with a parasite sucking their margin and life blood is not going to thrive; as the parasite is not able to block competitors from entering the market as no one runs office on their phone.

    Still is fun to watch the old iPhone funeral stuff when window7 phone came out. I so hope they do it again for windows8 release.

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