Samsung's 870 Evo maximizes the potential of SATA SSDs

hahahanoobs

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Quote my post where I said I did it for speed please.

Since you are going to make stuff up to support your argument.

lol incorrectly described a Raid 0 array

ok you are just trolling or reading comprehension isn't your thing.

We are indeed done because you have no actual points to discuss you are just trying to one up someone and I don't have time for child's play.
You don't know what RAID is for. Read your posts again.
 

hahahanoobs

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No he didn't, he specifically stated he didn't go for the Pro drives because they're of no benefit.

Ok, I'm starting to think you're the one who doesn't know his RAID arrays. His description was fine:

What's you're issue?

What a confusing load of comments from you on this thread. You challenged Lionvibez's knowledge on RAID arrays for some reason and you've not corrected anything? You've just gone "Your wrong" and then not explained why he's wrong? All you've done is describe RAID0 to someone already running a RAID0 Array?
One of you must be confused if you feel he needs help with this.....

And THIS explains NOTHING, hence my reply:

" The [RAID0] usage was only to run my games from the drives so there was no need to spend the extra money on the pro models since my use case would not benefit from it."

NONE of that makes ANY sense. It's about as vague and empty of a comment you could make about RAID. None of it describes how a RAID array is used. And it was only AFTER my comment did he say it was so he didn't have to choose which drive to install games on each time and AFTER in another comment he said it was for SPEED, which led back to my second comment I believe where I said speed from a RAID 0 is no faster for gaming (his words), than a single SATA SSD.

Then you BOTH got lost somewhere from a couple simple sentences. I replied specifically to each issue as they came to me so I don't know what else to tell you.

If the dude was like, yea I don't use RAID 0 for how it was indented but I don't care, then I would have laughed too myself and moved on and you wouldn't be playing big brother to a grown man. Right?
 
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Burty117

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Original Comment:
I don't consider myself a casual and I run 2x1TB 860 Evo's for my Raid 0 setup for a games drive.

The usage was only to run my games from the drives so there was no need to spend the extra money on the pro models since my use case would not benefit from it.
Your comment:
"RAID 0 is best used for storage that is noncritical but requires high-speed reads and writes."
Please, explain what's so wrong with Lionvibiz's comment?
Also, that's a pretty bad explanation of RAID0 as it describes a use case, not how it functions:
"RAID 0 (also known as a stripe set or striped volume) splits ("stripes") data evenly across two or more disks ".
Which is what Lionvibez described?
If the dude was like, yea I don't use RAID 0 for how it was indented but I don't care, then I would have laughed too myself and moved on.
My issue is that he IS using it as intended...
 

Lionvibez

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No I don't think he needs help, I think you need help, I honestly don't think you know what a RAID0 array is...

He is just here to argue.

This isn't a discussion of what a Raid 0 array is.

He doesn't get to determine someone else's use case nor does it need to meet his approval.Everything from this post on is irrelevant nonsense, his arguments never had a leg to stand on. And he won't admit that so just keeps going down the rabbit hole.

So much wrong with this comment I wouldn't know where to start.
 

hahahanoobs

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Original Comment:

Your comment:

Please, explain what's so wrong with Lionvibiz's comment?
Also, that's a pretty bad explanation of RAID0 as it describes a use case, not how it functions:
"RAID 0 (also known as a stripe set or striped volume) splits ("stripes") data evenly across two or more disks ".
Which is what Lionvibez described?
Go get the whole timeline and I'll point mistakes, confusion and a waste of all our time. I'm not repeating myself over and over when it's all there as it happened when it heppened.

I'll answer the first question:
Your first quote of his doesn't explain anything about a RAID0 array at all. It's just gibberish, which is why I said none of it made sense and it still doesn't. You're trying to argue that one point, when he made many mistakes as he and you went. All I can say is line up the timeline and I'll look at it and explain it one last time.
 

Lionvibez

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One of you must be confused if you feel he needs help with this.....

And THIS explains NOTHING, hence my reply:

" The [RAID0] usage was only to run my games from the drives so there was no need to spend the extra money on the pro models since my use case would not benefit from it."

NONE of that makes ANY sense.

What makes sense to you is irrevelant.

My system wasn't build by you, you didn't buy the drives it didn't cost you anything.

Just give it up.
 

hahahanoobs

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What makes sense to you is irrevelant.

My system wasn't build by you, you didn't buy the drives it didn't cost you anything.

Just give it up.
Then maybe you should have kept it to yourself if that's the case, hmm?
If you don't want your picture taken in public, move away.
 

hahahanoobs

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He is just here to argue.

This isn't a discussion of what a Raid 0 array is.

He doesn't get to determine someone else's use case nor does it need to meet his approval.Everything from this post on is irrelevant nonsense, his arguments never had a leg to stand on. And he won't admit that so just keeps going down the rabbit hole.
No one uses RAID anymore and I was curious. And you got upset because you couldn't communicate. That's all.
 

Lionvibez

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Then maybe you should have kept it to yourself if that's the case, hmm?
If you don't want your picture taken in public, move away.

And maybe you should keep your irrelevant comments to yourself. And stop trying to one up people its childish.

I use Raid and that's all that matters to me why do I care what everyone else is doing? lol I'm not some highschool student boss.

And everyone else seems to understand my communication fine so maybe that is a you problem?
 
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Burty117

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Go get the whole timeline and I'll point mistakes, confusion and a waste of all our time.
Yeah sure, see below:
EVO's are for casuals..... wow.
I don't consider myself a casual and I run 2x1TB 860 Evo's for my Raid 0 setup for a games drive.
The usage was only to run my games from the drives so there was no need to spend the extra money on the pro models since my use case would not benefit from it.
So much wrong with this comment I wouldn't know where to start.
I bought drives that met my needs.
Explain to me how that is wrong I'll wait?
Yeah I'm with this guy, what's wrong with his comment?
You said the RAID was for games.
Even the fastest NVMe isn't even 5% faster than a single SATA SSD.
Now I understand.
You made the assumption that I put the Raid 0 together looking for extra performance which I did not.
I choose to go Raid 0 because I wanted a single storage space for the games instead of spreading it over two drives.
Next time ask.
I think you're confused about RAID arrays.
"RAID 0 is best used for storage that is noncritical but requires high-speed reads and writes."
Also:
No one uses RAID anymore and I was curious.
Disagree, RAID is used everywhere, All NAS's and SAN's, any server with local storage, Anyone who values money (It's considerably cheaper to buy two 1TB Sata SSD's than a single 2TB SSD while providing double the throughput) and finally, anyone who values a bit of simplicity, having lots of different logical drives gets annoying.
 

hahahanoobs

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Yeah sure, see below:








Also:

Disagree, RAID is used everywhere, All NAS's and SAN's, any server with local storage, Anyone who values money (It's considerably cheaper to buy two 1TB Sata SSD's than a single 2TB SSD while providing double the throughput) and finally, anyone who values a bit of simplicity, having lots of different logical drives gets annoying.
Wow. I'm def blocking both of you after this.

Wanna see how this should have went down?

ME: Why RAID-0? There is no speed advantage.
YOU: I'm not doing it for speed. It's so my PC can see the drives as one so I can install my games without going back and forth between them.

Communication is hard.......
 

Burty117

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Wow. I'm def blocking both of you after this.

Wanna see how this should have went down?

ME: Why RAID-0? There is no speed advantage.
YOU: I'm not doing it for speed. It's so my PC can see the drives as one so I can install my games without going back and forth between them.

Communication is hard.......
But you still continued to argue! That's exactly what he said and you still continued arguing about what RAID0 is...
 

Lionvibez

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But you still continued to argue! That's exactly what he said and you still continued arguing about what RAID0 is...

lmao yup still in denial obviously dealing with a child here not an adult.

Blocking both of us, yes take your ball and run along this topic is for adults.
 

Lionvibez

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Hahahanoobs is making the assertion there is other options other than Raid0. Taking the definition so literally, that the only reason to use Raid0 is for speed. And that is just not true.

Another side benefit is because you are sharing the writes between both drives and not just a single drive its alittle bit less wear and tear on them.

But this and the sequential speed are only a bonus for me. I just didn't want to be spreading data across to drives easier for me to maintain. And because its just being used for games and not critical storage redundancy isn't needed or I would have gone Raid 0+1 or Raid 5
 
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Bamda

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I need to see more SSD's hit lower than $100 per TB.

I bought Samsung's QVO 8TB. So far, no complaints whatsoever. I wish we had 10TB available but for the time being, I'll be OK.

I got a Western Digital Blue 3D 4TB SSD (WDS400T2B0A) for $370 on Black Friday and its almost the same performance as the 870 Evo.