Spotify CEO defends AI music, promises musicians will be adequately compensated

[sreams]

That nonsense was penned by someone who doesn't know a back-propagating RNN from a Christmas ham. ALL machine learning models are trained on some form of input content ... it's literally why it's called machine "learning" Nor is this training "stealing", no more than a human artist steals when they begin learning their craft by studying the works of past masters.

Particle effects are not the art. The story is. The performance is. There are far more people than you think who desire to see this expression from people like them.

In theory. Not in practice ... but at some future point, sure. Again: so what? If the result is as good as human content, that's all that matters.

To you. That's what you are failing to see.

 

[Endymio]

Particle effects are not the art. The story is. The performance is.

Oops! You forgot what your argument was. It wasn't about "the art" or "the story" It was simply that "human actors" would never be replaced by AI. But in this film -- the most successful non-Hollywood film of all time -- they already are.

And to clarify, AI in this film was used for essentially everything, not just 'particle effects'.

 

[sreams]

Oops! You forgot what your argument was. It wasn't about "the art" or "the story" It was simply that "human actors" would never be replaced by AI. But in this film -- the most successful non-Hollywood film of all time -- they already are.

Oops! You need to qualify your film as "non-Hollywood" for it to even be in consideration. Oops! Voice acting by humans means humans are performing.

And to clarify, AI in this film was used for essentially everything

Uh... no. Did AI write the script? No. Did AI do the voice acting? No. Did AI design the on-screen characters? No. Did AI write the musical score? No. And many, many more "no"s. What creative aspect did AI replace? Be specific.

 

[Endymio]

Oops! You need to qualify your film as "non-Hollywood" for it to even be in consideration.

Oops is right. Nhe Zha 2 is the fifth highest grossing film of all time -- and 3 of the 4 above it have at least some AI-generated characters also, even if most of the actors remain human.

Oops! Voice acting by humans means humans are performing.

Some animated characters use human voices; some use AI-generated, some don't speak at all. You've forgotten my point: human voice acting may still still be prevalent today ... but in ten years, it won't be.

Uh... no. Did AI write the script? No. Did AI do the voice acting? No. Did AI design the on-screen characters? No. Did AI write the musical score? No.

The answer is yes to all of those questions -- for some films. In nearly all others, AI tools assisted in the process ... and every year, the amount of that assistance and AI content grows exponentially.

You've lost the argument. Why keep denying it? AI won't entirely eliminate human actors, just as mass production didn't fully eliminate hand-made clothing. But it will replace the vast majority of actors ... and consumers won't care one bit.

What creative aspect did AI replace? Be specific.

Now you're contradicting your original claim, that if a human uses AI tools to create these elements, that it strips the creative aspect out entirely. It does not.

 

[sreams]

AI won't entirely eliminate human actors

I see how you operate now. You change your argument completely whenever it suits you:

"When AI makes avatars as perfectly realistic as human actors, you can kiss them goodbye too"

You want this. You will find that most people do not.

Anybody can proclaim themselves the winner of an argument, but that does not make it true, and it is most certainly not a good look. Enjoy your unpopular position.

 

[Endymio]

I see how you operate now. You change your argument completely whenever it suits you:

My argument has been the same since post one.

Anybody can proclaim themselves the winner of an argument, but that does not make it true

The facts are what make it true. It's banality itself to believe that a few "human voices" are all that saved one of the most successful films in history from being shunned. It's even worse when you realize the film was enormously successful in countries where it wasn't dubbed into the native tongue, and thus viewed with nothing but subtitles.

Oops.

Enjoy your unpopular position.

What I enjoy are positions that are correct, regardless of their popularity. You cling to what psychologists call a "security belief".