Star Wars Battlefront II's Celebration Edition is free on the Epic Games Store

Burty117

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I usually buy games on epic because they are cheaper. Take control, I bought that last month on epic for £12 whilst I was £20 on steam. Why on earth would I pay more for it on steam?
It's the same price on Steam:

As I said in an earlier comment, Epic isn't the cheapest and never has been, places like CDKeys have always been the best value places.

£12 on a Launcher with features like cloud saves and mod support, along with streaming capability's to my TV downstairs, or £12 on a Launcher that didn't even have a shopping cart for most it's part working life?
 
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Shadowboxer

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It's the same price on Steam:

As I said in an earlier comment, Epic isn't the cheapest and never has been, places like CDKeys have always been the best value places.

£12 on a Launcher with features like cloud saves and mod support, along with streaming capability's to my TV downstairs, or £12 on a Launcher that didn't even have shopping cart for most it's part working life?
Epic definitely does have cloud saves and you don’t need a launcher to allow you to mod games so that’s two points you have made which are factually incorrect. As for in home streaming you can use steaks in home streaming on non steam games. Although it is an awful streaming solution that frequently causes problems.

When I purchased control epic was definitely cheaper once you applied their free £10 voucher. The price today is not representative of last month during the sales they both had on.

Yes Epic isn’t always the cheapest. I never said it was. You are straw-manning.

My question was why should someone avoid paying less and buying on epic?
 

Burty117

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Epic definitely does have cloud saves and you don’t need a launcher to allow you to mod games so that’s two points you have made which are factually incorrect.
No but a part of the fee they charge is to host such things, Storage isn't free, hosting all the mods and user content isn't free, And they don't just host it for a year or two, it's there for an infinite amount of time. You like to make a point about Steam giving less to the devs, there are clear reasons why Steam take what they do.
When I purchased control epic was definitely cheaper once you applied their free £10 voucher. The price today is not representative of last month during the sales they both had on.
True, thanks for pointing this out by the way, just purchased the game myself, on Steam of course ;)

My question was why should someone avoid paying less and buying on epic?
We've been through this, I dislike them bribing devs who had already committed to releasing their games on Steam, it happened, several times, that's a fact that I already linked you to, I won't do business with a company that does that. Maybe in a few years when their Launcher has a bit more meat to it and they haven't done anything shady for a bit I might consider them again.

What's your view on them against Apple and Google's App Stores? Do you think they have a leg to stand on?
 

Shadowboxer

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No but a part of the fee they charge is to host such things, Storage isn't free, hosting all the mods and user content isn't free, And they don't just host it for a year or two, it's there for an infinite amount of time. You like to make a point about Steam giving less to the devs, there are clear reasons why Steam take what they do.

True, thanks for pointing this out by the way, just purchased the game myself, on Steam of course ;)


We've been through this, I dislike them bribing devs who had already committed to releasing their games on Steam, it happened, several times, that's a fact that I already linked you to, I won't do business with a company that does that. Maybe in a few years when their Launcher has a bit more meat to it and they haven't done anything shady for a bit I might consider them again.

What's your view on them against Apple and Google's App Stores? Do you think they have a leg to stand on?

Apple and Google’s stores are different to Steam and EGS. They have exclusivity of the platform. In other words if you want to sell an app to a user on iOS or Android you have to do it through the respective marketplaces. This is due to the nature of these operating systems being locked down (something I mostly like and am happy to sign up for). I feel that Epic should pay the rates. If a judge forced Apple and Google to open their OS up to any old marketplace we would see the operating systems compromised.

Steam and EGS sell games for someone else’s open operating system - Windows. Windows don’t charge anything to anyone if you want to make software for its OS. We dont need steam to buy games on windows.

Now Uplay, Origin, Xbox and EGS (and probably more) all have exclusives where the game rights were bought to be exclusively sold on their windows launchers. Or something that Ubisoft do more often is buy out developers completely to provide exclusivity. So if you use any of these launchers but avoid Epic it definitely makes you a hypocrite.

Your comment about “bribing” developers who have already commited to steam is incorrect and irrelevant. Legally its not a bribe and in all cases all users who had preordered on steam still got their games on steam, no consumers lost out, steam did. It is the opposite of "anti-competitive", it is the definition of competition. You also failed to mention that in the case of Metro Exodus EGS charged $10 less than steam, meaning the behaviour was "anti-competitor (steam) and "pro-consumer".

You have not made any valid arguments or evidence of "anti-competitive" behaviour. In fact in all cases your evidence is evidence of competition - the opposite of what you are claiming.

If I went back through your comments and changed your statements to show evidence of "anti-steam" behaviour they would become valid and factually accurate.

I get it, you really like steam and you want to see its competitors fail. But personally I would rather see competition between marketplaces than only have one marketplace to buy games from.