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Right, because Tesla, Inc. is just sitting there on life support waiting to be scooped up… that’s totally how this works. Hater's will hate...
I guess you "read a headline and filled in the rest” ....
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Right, because Tesla, Inc. is just sitting there on life support waiting to be scooped up… that’s totally how this works. Hater's will hate...
I guess you "read a headline and filled in the rest” ....
That’s a stretch. Buying a Tesla Model Y doesn’t magically turn into a personality test or a political declaration. Most people are a lot more practical than that, they’re looking at range, charging network, price, and maintenance, not trying to broadcast some ideological signal every time they drive to work.
Brand image can play a role, sure, but acting like every Tesla buyer is making a statement about politics in 2026 is just projection. By that logic, every Ford F-150 owner is cosplaying as a rancher and every Toyota Prius driver is making an environmental speech. That’s not how real people think.
And the market share point That’s not some grand political awakening, it’s basic competition. Back in 2019 Tesla was early and had less serious EV competition. By 2025 you’ve got basically every major automaker flooding the market with EVs. Of course the percentage drops when the pie gets bigger.
You can dislike Tesla, the CEO, or U.S. politics, that’s fine. But trying to turn someone’s car purchase into a political litmus test says more about the argument than it does about the buyer.
Try looking at the whole forest.
If people were purely looking at functionality over price then they'd buy something Chinese but car choices are rarely rational decisions.
It's not what the owner wants to project, it's what others perceive. Yep, I'll bet 90% of F150 owners want to be a ranchers and 90% of Prius owners want to be seen as saving the planet. I'm not saying that's wrong, it would be a boring world if we all drove the same thing.
You're right, there are a few major reasons for Teslas decline and image is just one. While researching some info I found that Tesla has now dropped to 20% of the market share.
Actually I quite like Tesla cars and the model 3 SR would suit me well but I certainly wouldn't want to be seen driving one in todays political climate. Unfortunately those feelings will get worse outside America as the consequences of this war drags on.
MasterMace
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Nope. When you start off weird, then double sieg heil, it shows that was your business the whole time.All the hatred on Musk...I bet if he dumped Trump/Maga/X-Twitter and went all leftist, those that hate him would love him again...like they did before he went Maga.
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Tesla made it so you couldn't lease a Tesla, only rent one. Tesla can keep their SwastiKKKars.
No I don’t buy Chinese phones or toys either … if it says ‘made in China’ I look for an alternative
According to the UN, China has over three million of its people in slave labor genocide camps. It wasn’t that long ago that the CCP was rolling tanks over its own citizens in Tianenmen Square either. And they employ two million people just to censor their Internet. Move there and you wont EVER compare them to America.
You mean the guy who was hanging teenage kids publicly in the streets for criticising him? The guy having his troops gang rape then torture and murder young women for appearing in public without a veil? You have funny friends
Wow, you’re building a whole theory around vibes and calling it reality.
Most people aren’t cross shopping EVs thinking "how will strangers judge me," they’re thinking cost, charging, reliability, and what fits their life. A Tesla Model 3 or Tesla Model Y gets picked because it’s easy to live with, not because someone’s trying to manage public perception like it’s a PR campaign.
And the China point isn’t as simple as "pure logic equals buy Chinese." Availability, infrastructure, incentives, resale, and brand trust all matter depending on where you live. That’s still rational decision making, just with more variables than price alone.
The “90% of F-150 owners want to be ranchers” thing kind of proves the point though, that’s a stereotype, not reality. Most are just people who need a truck or like trucks. Same with a Toyota Prius, most owners just want good MPG and low running costs, not to make a statement.
On market share, again, you’re skipping the obvious. When Tesla dominated early, there were barely any real competitors. Now every major automaker is in the EV space, so of course Tesla’s percentage drops as the total market grows. That’s how competition works, not some global reputation collapse.
And saying you wouldn’t want to be “seen” driving one kind of highlights the disconnect. You’re focused on perception, most buyers aren’t. The average person isn’t assigning political meaning to the car next to them at a red light, they’re just trying to get where they’re going.
If you like the car, buy it. If you don’t, don’t. But turning it into a global political signal is just overthinking it.
"They added that the company plans to cut costs by using a smaller battery, which would reduce range to approximately 306 to 327 miles."
300 miles is reasonable. In fact, it is on the edge of mental peace where you can go a decent range on one charge. But I doubt it would be very popular in cold regions. Depending on the battery type, it could downgrade to a very modest range in winter.
300 miles is reasonable. In fact, it is on the edge of mental peace where you can go a decent range on one charge. But I doubt it would be very popular in cold regions. Depending on the battery type, it could downgrade to a very modest range in winter.
I'm just explaining to Americans why non Americans aren't buying Tesla at the moment. It obviously also depends on pricing and competition. It's obviously not just me and I hoped it might explain why Tesla market share was taking a nose dive. Personally I think EVs are great and I genuinely like Tesla's but I just wouldn't buy one now.
Endymio
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Translated from LeftistSpeak into ordinary English, the above reads, "No, I don't believe anything so foolish; I'm merely virtue-signaling my adherence to the liberal orthodoxy."
Endymio
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Out here in the real world, Tesla sold nearly half a million vehicles to non-Americans just in the last quarter alone. And while it did lose market share, it lost it to BYD, a company subsidized by a government that keeps several million Uighurs in slave-labor genocide camps. But then, since concentration camps are a European invention, I can see why Europe would favor that.
Endymio
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No, you're attempting to virtue signal -- and being very wrong in the process. Tesla's market share dropped because a dozen other competitors entered the market. Yet Tesla is doing extraordinarily well, regardless. In 2019, Tesla's total revenues were just $24B. Revenues were just under $100B last year ... I don't know many companies quadrupling total sales in just six years time.
