The iPhone Duo's best feature isn't the fold, it's the software built around it

[Hai Karate]

Wrong.

Apple takes their time and hands in better work while every one elese rushes to be first and gets stuff wrong.

Obviously in the "Apple can do no wrong" camp, I see.

 

[LordVile95]

Obviously in the "Apple can do no wrong" camp, I see.

I mean they’re being objective. It is typically what Apple does

 

[Megalomaniac]

I think the truly genius thing Apple has done is building its own financing/ leasing system to ensure that anyone willing to be a debt slave can have their iPhone Duo on day one.

That is ultimately why Apple is a winner - worth over $5 Trillion.

They've created a highly exclusive ecosystem.

I insist that the Duo and the Samsung Fold do not compete with one another. Even if their hardware was 100% identical: it's the Operating system which provides such radically different experiences including not only the phone, but the accessories that make these devices and their consequential user experiences incomparable.


The Duo is damn near $2500 with taxes. There are people with iPhones older than 12 who are planning to upgrade to it. They can use Apple Card or lease the phone at $150 a month. Nothing samsung has ever built is going to see a sale rate as high as Duo on Day one.

What's crazier is that you can't even order Duo for an entire month from now. It's like they've given you time to obsess over it.

I personally don't want one.

But I'm tempted to fire up my Apple Card just to have it day one for my Youtube channel.

 

[Plutoisaplanet]

The iPhone Duo is a 7.6" internal screen.
The 2019 Galaxy Fold is a 7.3" internal screen.
The 2020 Galaxy Z Fold 2 is a 7.6" internal screen. Same as the ZF3,4,5,6, and 8.

The Fold lineup has always folded Passport style.

Are you conflating the Galaxy Fold lineup with the Galaxy Z Flip lineup which closes Clam-shell style?

Aspect ratio is not screen size. The Galaxy Z Fold 8 changed its aspect ratio significantly from all prior Samsung foldable devices: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-Z-Fold8-The-not-so-new-form-factor.1393497.0.html

This is the Galaxy Z Fold 2 and 7. These look nothing like passports:

This is the iPhone Duo:

I did. It had 2 sentences on Software changes, for which it listed 3 changes: the apps icons were moved, there's a visual transition when changing screens, and apps were "optimized" for a foldable format.

The better question is: did YOU read the article?

iOS is hot garbage. Making apps fit on the screen is bare minimum.

This is a criticism of the article writer, not the software. Although the article only specifically details two features, it also describes a range of changes and a new version of iOS. Instead, the article writer preferred to demonstrate the software changes via video and images. You seemed to ignore all that and call iOS hot trash. This says more about you than the iPhone Duo lol.

Unless you actually learn about the topic, I no longer feel a need to engage with you again and will not reply to further nonsense.

 

[toooooot]

I just want to see how well it holds vs Samsung. Whichever can be folded more times without
developing a permanent crease wins. I would not be surprised if Samsung won.
They have years of experience, Idk how hard Apple would have to work
to make their first foldable more reliable than Samsung

 

[LordVile95]

I just want to see how well it holds vs Samsung. Whichever can be folded more times without
developing a permanent crease wins. I would not be surprised if Samsung won.
They have years of experience, Idk how hard Apple would have to work
to make their first foldable more reliable than Samsung

They have the benefit of seeing what everyone else has done and have taken a novel approach

 

[acrossthestars]

And now rotate it 90 degrees

tPhone Duo has a resolution of 1878x2670 @ 7.6", or an aspect ratio of 1:1.42

The iPad mini resolution is 2266x1488 @ 8.3", or 3:2
iPad 2026 is 2360x1640 @ 11", or IMAX 1.43:1
iPad Air 11" is identical, while 13" is 2732x2048 @ 13", or 4:3
iPad Pro 11" is 2420x1668 @ 11", or 1.43:1. iPad Pro 13" is 2752x2064 @ 13", or 4:3

Based on these numbers alone, none of the existing iPad configurations fits the Duo. They are all slightly too wide or too tall; there is no "right fit". So, when other commentators attempt to argue that iPad apps should be compatible with the Duo's inner screen, based on the "idea of approximate sizing" or the feeling that Apple claims the Duo's configuration is "close enough" that it should "just work", really question that assessment.

People lie. Numbers don't.

P.S. In case you want to run the numbers for yourself, I used this tool.

 

[m4a4]

Based on these numbers alone, none of the existing iPad configurations fits the Duo. They are all slightly too wide or too tall; there is no "right fit". So, when other commentators attempt to argue that iPad apps should be compatible with the Duo's inner screen, based on the "idea of approximate sizing" or the feeling that Apple claims the Duo's configuration is "close enough" that it should "just work", really question that assessment.

Ooookay, I'll jump in here to say that you only served to prove yourself wrong. NOBODY who makes apps makes the GUI so static that it can't handle a little bit of an aspect-ratio resize. Even for an iPad. It's just not smart design.

So I find it quite silly that you've come out to say that it can't because of aspect ratios. Dealing with that has been solved for at least a decade now with flexible UI.

Now, if there is something a little off because of bad design, they can update it. But lets not pretend that the aspect ratio is so far off that it can't work as is.

 

[LordVile95]

tPhone Duo has a resolution of 1878x2670 @ 7.6", or an aspect ratio of 1:1.42

The iPad mini resolution is 2266x1488 @ 8.3", or 3:2
iPad 2026 is 2360x1640 @ 11", or IMAX 1.43:1
iPad Air 11" is identical, while 13" is 2732x2048 @ 13", or 4:3
iPad Pro 11" is 2420x1668 @ 11", or 1.43:1. iPad Pro 13" is 2752x2064 @ 13", or 4:3

Based on these numbers alone, none of the existing iPad configurations fits the Duo. They are all slightly too wide or too tall; there is no "right fit". So, when other commentators attempt to argue that iPad apps should be compatible with the Duo's inner screen, based on the "idea of approximate sizing" or the feeling that Apple claims the Duo's configuration is "close enough" that it should "just work", really question that assessment.

People lie. Numbers don't.

P.S. In case you want to run the numbers for yourself, I used this tool.

And what had the argument got to do with the inner and out display having the same aspect ratio?

 

[acrossthestars]

NOBODY who makes apps makes the GUI so static that it can't handle a little bit of an aspect-ratio resize. Even for an iPad. It's just not smart design.

This is the big sticking point: did iOS 26 and below have the ability to elastically adjust the amount of content in an app? I don't mean "from portait to landscape", because iPadOS would also already do that. I mean, "did the SDK allow an app to reconfigure the interface, to allow for additional screen real estate?" I do not believe so.

Prior to the iPhone Duo, the screen size was fixed; the operating system would never have needed to adjust to additional screen size, on the fly. Adding a second screen via HDMI also does not count, because another screen is not more of the same screen.

 

[m4a4]

This is the big sticking point: did iOS 26 and below have the ability to elastically adjust the amount of content in an app? I don't mean "from portait to landscape", because iPadOS would also already do that. I mean, "did the SDK allow an app to reconfigure the interface, to allow for additional screen real estate?" I do not believe so.

Prior to the iPhone Duo, the screen size was fixed; the operating system would never have needed to adjust to additional screen size, on the fly. Adding a second screen via HDMI also does not count, because another screen is not more of the same screen.

Anything short of you saying "as an iOS developer" makes your wild and illogical speculations wrong.

As an iOS developer, you're wrong. We don't make bad design choices like you're suggesting. It's a waste of time, especially when also targeting android.

 

[Alpine7995]

The real story here isn't the hinge, it's that Apple waited four years, let everyone else eat the R&D costs and early failures, then showed up and immediately got praised for "redefining" the category. Classic Apple move.

 

[MasterMace]