The Marines' new AI gun can track and target people, even though it's marketed as anti-drone
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Because its about using AI in war... duh.
Plutoisaplanet
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You mean like this?
Squid Surprise
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But it isn’t… you gave no evidence, nor did you even specify a specific incident… it was, as I already stated, just you spouting nonsense.
If you have any actual specific cases with sources - we’ll be all ears…
obviously...
Me spouting non sense coming from you, good one.
Sorry, you have proven yourself a bad faith actor, I dont engage with brain rot.
I am happy to engage folks who dont suffer from brain rot.
It doesnt matter what I say, what evidence I bring forward or what examples I cite, you will deny, call it fake news, make vague insults against me and continue being condescending as you always do.
Why would I engage you on anything?
Squid Surprise
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Ok, so you got nothing… goodbye troll.
Case and point. Incapable of rational conversation.
Im the troll, sure pal. Thanks for proving me right continually.
You simply are not a serious person. That is exactly why I would never engage someone like you.
Russians and Chinese are doing what they are doing because the west keeps threatening them from ww2 end.
They have all the rights to do it, even if they shouldn't.
If I spend 50 + years telling everyone that you are an enemy to be fought, picturing you as resposible of bad actions in every movie I produce, and you see me developing mass destructions weapons at the same time, you will definetely start organize yourself.
And that's what happened in the last 50-70 years, if you weren't watching (or if you were watching somewhere else).
1. Direct Military Invasions and Interventions (Ground Forces)
Lebanon (1958): Deployment of 14,000 U.S. Marines to support the pro-Western government of President Camille Chamoun.
Dominican Republic (1965): Military occupation involving over 40,000 troops to prevent the establishment of a communist regime.
Vietnam (1965–1973): Full-scale war with the deployment of over half a million American soldiers supporting South Vietnam.
Cambodia (1970): Ground invasion launched alongside South Vietnamese forces to destroy Viet Cong logistical sanctuaries.
Grenada (1983): Invasion of the Caribbean island to overthrow the newly installed pro-Marxist military junta.
Panama (1989): Military invasion to arrest the de facto ruler and dictator Manuel Noriega on drug trafficking charges.
Kuwait / Iraq (1991): Ground and air campaign during the Gulf War to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi occupation.
Somalia (1992–1993): Humanitarian and military intervention that culminated in the Battle of Mogadishu.
Haiti (1994): Military intervention to reinstate President Jean-Bertrand Aristide following a military coup.
Afghanistan (2001–2021): Two decades of military occupation and warfare to dismantle Al-Qaeda and remove the Taliban from power.
Iraq (2003–2011): Invasion and subsequent occupation that led to the overthrow and execution of Saddam Hussein.
2. Covert CIA Operations and Regime Changes
Japan (1950s–1960s): Millions of dollars in secret funding to support the Liberal Democratic Party and sideline left-wing political movements.
Indonesia (1957–1958): Clandestine support, including weapons and covert air strikes, provided to PRRI rebels fighting against President Sukarno.
Cuba (1961): The failed Bay of Pigs invasion carried out by CIA-trained Cuban exiles attempting to overthrow Fidel Castro.
Brazil (1964): Logistic and naval backup provided under Operation Brother Sam to support the military coup that deposed João Goulart.
Chile (1973): Economic and political destabilization campaign against the socialist government of Salvador Allende, leading to Pinochet's military coup.
Angola (1975): Covert financial and military aid supplied to UNITA rebels fighting against the Soviet-backed government.
Nicaragua (1981–1990): Clandestine funding, arming, and training of the Contras to undermine and overthrow the Sandinista government.
3. Bombing Campaigns and Aerial / Missile Strikes
Laos (1964–1973): Secret aerial campaign that made Laos the most heavily bombed country per capita in history during the Vietnam War.
Libya (1986 and 2011): Targeted airstrikes against Muammar Gaddafi in 1986, and a NATO-led air campaign in 2011 that led to his overthrow.
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1995): NATO air campaign (Operation Deliberate Force) targeting Bosnian Serb military positions.
Sudan (1998): Cruise missile strike on the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory under suspicion of manufacturing chemical weapons.
Afghanistan / Pakistan (1998): Targeted missile strikes against Al-Qaeda training camps in response to U.S. embassy bombings.
Yugoslavia / Serbia (1999): 78-day NATO bombing campaign against Serbian military forces during the Kosovo crisis.
Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia (2002–present): Long-running targeted drone campaign against suspected terrorist leadership and cells.
Syria (2014–present): Sustained airstrikes against ISIS positions and occasional missile strikes against Syrian government military assets.
Outer bases:
United States (USA)
Total Overseas Bases: ~750 – 850 base sites (distributed across approximately 80 countries and territories).
Germany: Ramstein Air Base, Spangdahlem Air Base, USAG Stuttgart.
Italy: Aviano Air Base, NAS Sigonella, NSA Naples, Caserma Ederle.
United Kingdom: RAF Lakenheath, RAF Mildenhall.
Japan: Yokosuka Naval Base, Kadena Air Base, Camp Foster.
South Korea: Camp Humphreys, Osan Air Base, Kunsan Air Base.
Qatar: Al Udeid Air Base.
Bahrain: Naval Support Activity Bahrain.
Kuwait: Camp Arifjan, Ali Al Salem Air Base.
Djibouti: Camp Lemonnier.
Cuba: Guantanamo Bay Naval Base.
Spain: Rota Naval Station.
Greece: Souda Bay Naval Base.
Kosovo: Camp Bondsteel.
Honduras: Soto Cano Air Base.
British Indian Ocean Territory: Diego Garcia.
Russia
Total Overseas Bases: ~30 – 50 operational installations and facilities (primarily concentrated within former Soviet republics and the Middle East).
Tajikistan: 201st Military Base, Okno Space Surveillance Station.
Kyrgyzstan: Kant Air Base.
Armenia: 102nd Military Base (Gyumri), 3624th Air Base (Erebuni).
Belarus: Hantsavichy Radar Station, Vileyka Naval Communication Center.
Syria: Tartus Naval Base, Khmeimim Air Base.
Moldova (Transnistria): Cobasna Military Contingent.
Kazakhstan: Baikonur Cosmodrome, Sary Shagan Testing Range
China
Total Overseas Bases: ~4 – 6 permanent military facilities and technical outposts (plus multiple heavily militarized artificial reefs in disputed waters).
Djibouti: People's Liberation Army Support Base (Only official, full-scale overseas logistics base).
Tajikistan: Pamir Post Surveillance Base.
Cambodia: Ream Naval Base (Access and infrastructural logistical rights).
South China Sea: Militarized artificial islands (Mischief Reef, Subi Reef, Fiery Cross Reef)
How to correctly use AI
Ask AI:
"Geographically define—based on logic—which of the three powers (the United States, Russia, and China) is attacking and which is defending or taking precautionary measures."
Always Ai:
Based on geographical logic and the spatial distribution of military assets, the global map clearly defines two opposing strategic postures: a proactive, global projection of force versus a regional, perimeter-based defense and containment.
Here is the geographical and logical breakdown of who is positioned to project power and who is taking defensive precautions.
The Global Projectors (Proactive/Forward Posture)
Geographical logic dictates that the nation capable of maintaining military infrastructure thousands of miles from its homeland, effectively encircling its rivals, is operating in a posture of global power projection.
The United States and NATO Allies: With roughly 750 to 850 bases located directly on the doorsteps of rival superpowers (in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia, and the Western Pacific), the U.S. operates on forward-deployed strategic lines. Logically, this geographic positioning allows the U.S. to project offensive or preventive power, encircle peer competitors, and enforce global maritime choke points well outside its own hemisphere.
The Regional Defenders (Precautious/Reactive Posture)
Geographical logic shows that nations focusing their military infrastructure almost exclusively within or directly adjacent to their homeland are operating in a defensive, reactive, or anti-encirclement posture.
Russia: Nearly all Russian overseas installations are tightly concentrated within the borders of the former Soviet Union (Belarus, Armenia, Central Asia). Geographically, Russia’s posture is one of regional deep defense. Its external military actions (such as in Georgia or Ukraine) are, from its strategic perspective, extreme "precautions" and buffer-zone enforcements aimed at preventing NATO's military infrastructure from advancing directly to its historical, vulnerable land borders.
China: With only one official overseas base (Djibouti) and a heavy concentration of military assets on fortified artificial islands, China’s geography dictates a strategy of active perimeter defense (known militarily as Anti-Access/Area Denial or A2/AD). Logically, Pechino is taking strict precautions to push U.S. naval power (stationed heavily in Japan and South Korea) away from its coastline, ensuring that vital maritime trade routes in the South China Sea cannot be easily blockaded.
Logical SummaryThe West (USA/NATO) moves along global, external lines: it projects power outward to contain and pressure rivals before they can expand.
Russia and China move along local, internal lines: they fortify their borders and immediate coastal seas, using aggressive regional measures to prevent total encirclement.
Note: I didn't need Ai to tell me that, I know it from many years because I have a brain and understanding of strategies, but I wanted to use it as a neutral confirmation given the right prompt.
Keep in mind that it's a western trained tool, injected with western propagandic informations.
This is why you need to drive it on a neutral logical ground.
Be honest with yourself and you will know the truth, always.
You don't need Ai, you need honesty with yourself.
The moment you start lying to yourself is the moment you loose contact with reality, and going back it's not easy or painless.
It's also the moment where it's easier to be brainwashed and believe nonsense.
Squid Surprise
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I posted - you replied with nonsense… I asked for clarification - you replied with “I don’t reply to you cause you’re a bad actor”…
So why did you reply the first 2 times?!?
Either actually refute what I’m saying or - you a troll
Never mind, you'll respawn.
ActualViking
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With the US having a track record of illegal wars, illegal tactics and politicians willing to order kills like those allegedly drug smuggling small boats, bombing schools (and even double tapping to get the rescuers)... clearly ethics is not a US priority either.
In fact the government of Donald is actively trying to shut down the international justice system that handles war crimes, doing so by telling lies and targeting its employees by having them boycotted in banking systems and more.
Endymio
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One could almost wish the US didn't participate in that "illegal" World War II, or you'd now be goose-stepping around in a Werhmacht uniform. Or our "illegal" participation a few decades later, when we kept your parents from a Soviet gulag. More recently, Europe has begged the US for help in cleaning up its own messes in Bosnia, Serbia, and Ukraine. It seems their outrage over "illegal wars" is highly selective.
"Allegedly"? 90 mph go-fast boats carrying no fishing gear and thousands of small, individually-wrapped packages. Do you think they're selling ice cream bars to random Caribbean passer-bys? Nor, since these were designated members of a narco-terror syndicate, are such attacks illegal under US nor International Law.
Are you suggesting this was done intentionally? Targeting mistakes happen in war. The only nations that don't experience them are those cowardly regimes who pay others to fight their battles for them.
If you mean the European boys clubs called the ICC, 3/4 of the world's population doesn't belong to it or recognize its authority, including all five of the five most populous nations on earth.
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I wouldnt even attempt to have any rational discourse with you, its obvious why. You are only interested in talking down to folks, condescending and insulting. You are here to be "right" not to have civil discourse.I posted - you replied with nonsense… I asked for clarification - you replied with “I don’t reply to you cause you’re a bad actor”…
So why did you reply the first 2 times?!?
Either actually refute what I’m saying or - you a troll
Why on earth would anyone discuss something with someone whom constantly calls them a troll?
I think you need to step back and go lookin the mirror. I dont owe YOU anything. You are not entitled to anything from me. That doesnt make me a troll, it means you are unengagable and you keep proving my point over and over.
Nobody here is entitled to anything. I would be happy to have a civil conversation with someone that wants it, you dont. You just want to insult, denigrate and talk down to people all in the your own egotistical desire to be right. Not discuss topics.
Oh here is a smiley face for reasons
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The USA is guilty of violating a lot of international laws, human rights violations and other atrocities.
Sycophants are not going to see this though, they think we are the good guys according to them. Bombing kids in sandals and fishing boats means we are strong good guys.
Every president of our lifetime is a war criminal. Its also funny how two international war criminals are allowed in our country but no other country. I mean, you cant even make this up anymore. Our country is doing horrific things to folks and completely guilty of participating in our own genocides.
Luckily, the public is awakening to these atrocities and my hope is that proper punishment will be dealt with in our lifetime.
Squid Surprise
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I think the pot is calling the kettle black… maybe reread your posts in this threadI wouldnt even attempt to have any rational discourse with you, its obvious why. You are only interested in talking down to folks, condescending and insulting. You are here to be "right" not to have civil discourse.
Why on earth would anyone discuss something with someone whom constantly calls them a troll?
I think you need to step back and go lookin the mirror. I dont owe YOU anything. You are not entitled to anything from me. That doesnt make me a troll, it means you are unengagable and you keep proving my point over and over.
Nobody here is entitled to anything. I would be happy to have a civil conversation with someone that wants it, you dont. You just want to insult, denigrate and talk down to people all in the your own egotistical desire to be right. Not discuss topics.
Oh here is a smiley face for reasons
Squid Surprise
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How about China, Russia, Iran…. Bad as you might think the US is, the alternatives are FAR worse.
First, you arent thinking. You are just responding. If you tried thinking, we wouldnt be here.I think the pot is calling the kettle black… maybe reread your posts in this thread
Umm no, perhaps you need to reread. Go read my reasons for not engaging you on the topic. If you are as smart as you think you are, you should be able to figure it out.
here is another smiley to reinforce it
Thats a nonsensical response.
Because some other country violates international laws, its ok for us? About as dumb of a take as it can get.
So because someone murders someone in cold blood, you think its ok to do it as well. Really well thought out argument there.
Smiley means I am right
ActualViking
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For real - you wanna bring up WWII! Guess what, since you want to include history then I suggest the role France played in there being a US in the first place - and then you can ponder who owns the most to whom. Same thing when it comes to NATO, since guess what - the US is the only NATO nation to invoke the article 50 (Not that you'd think it from listening to the uneducated pathetic joke in the WH).
As for those boats the US keeps attacking, hardly any of them would have the range to reach the US. More than 200 people have been killed by the US attacking and sinking those boats, that is murder regardless if it is smugglers or not.
And on the school bombed in Iran. Maybe it was intentional, maybe it was just sloppy intelligence work - regardless it was a double tap in a war started by the US. That is war crimes, the double tap thing is a dirty trick the Russians use in Ukraine and clearly the US is no better.
Finally as for the ICC, there is 125 nations that recognizes the court. The nations that doesn't reads like a list of the Earths finest, it is the axis of evil, the dictatorships and in general just nations that have huge problems with human rights. Not supporting international law is nothing to be proud of, far from.
Endymio
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You mean when France ignored the Nazi threat, then once attacked, surrendered in just a few weeks, and formed the Vichy government which spent the remainder of the war, collaborating with and assisting the Nazis in exterminating millions of Jews? I wouldn't bring that up if I were you.
I think you mean Article 5. And you make my point for me. Even though the US has prevented any European nation from being directly attacked (and thus UNABLE to invoke Article 5), the US has been repeatedly asked -- begged -- to help clean up European messes. And the US has answered ... every time.
As for the one time the US invoked Article 5, Great Britain answered indeed. Germany sent 900 "observers with helmets".
Stop. Just stop this absurd nonsense, which I doubt even you believe. As has already been widely reported, these boats use multiple Caribbean islands and other ports for refueling.
You've now lost any and all credibility. Such comments are beneath contempt.
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Squid Surprise
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You responded to ME… again… reread your posts…
You ARE engaging me… despite saying you won’t… so… I guess your word is… meaningless?
here is another smiley to reinforce it
Squid Surprise
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It isn’t… it’s a factual response…
In the schoolyard… no… in reality… yes. International laws are made to make the public think there is some sort of order… but they’re actually made to be broken - it’s why Syria got to be on the UN human rights committee way back…
It’s more important to look at who breaks them in the most egregious way… which isn’t the US…
Again, on the schoolyard… no… in the international world… yes. Every nation must do “unsavoury “ things in order to survive… at least democracies build in some accountability.
Smiley means I am right
You are not entitled to any debate from me or explanation. This isnt hard to understand. Read that again. I dont have to provide you anything. I can respond all I want in a public forum.You responded to ME… again… reread your posts…
You ARE engaging me… despite saying you won’t… so… I guess your word is… meaningless?
No. You are wrong. Countries dont need to do unsavory things. Thats the bar being held so low that you fall for it.It isn’t… it’s a factual response…
In the schoolyard… no… in reality… yes. International laws are made to make the public think there is some sort of order… but they’re actually made to be broken - it’s why Syria got to be on the UN human rights committee way back…
It’s more important to look at who breaks them in the most egregious way… which isn’t the US…
Again, on the schoolyard… no… in the international world… yes. Every nation must do “unsavoury “ things in order to survive… at least democracies build in some accountability.
A country, and many do, can operate within international laws and not commit war crimes. Saying its impossible is ridiculous when many countries already do it.
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