The reality of today's tech industry: layoffs, long hours, AI threats, and few perks

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In a nutshell: It had long been said that a career in tech was the ultimate dream: high salaries, security, and a huge number of perks made for some very happy workers. But things look quite different today. The tech world has seen the highest number of layoffs of any private sector industry this year; perks have been cut; salaries aren't increasing in line with the extra demands; and there's the constant spectre of AI.

As parodied in the brilliant TV show 'Silicon Valley', there was a time when some tech employees were paid fortunes to do almost nothing in their jobs. Their enviable situation was still being reported a couple of years ago, when companies were flush with cash and had hired extra workers during the pandemic boom.

Now, we're faced with almost weekly headlines about tech's massive job cuts. Intel recently confirmed it is making layoffs that could impact 20,000+ people. Meta has cut 5% of its workforce in performance-based layoffs, something that Microsoft is also doing.

Then there's Google, which this year has offered voluntary exit plans for some staff. Overall, more than 50,000 people from 100 tech companies have been laid off in 2025 so far.

Beyond the layoffs, more tech-industry perks are disappearing. Working from home is becoming a taboo subject as more firms drag employees back into the office: Intel is increasing its three-day in-office mandate to four days, while Google has told many remote workers to return to physical locations or face termination.

The Wall Street Journal notes that good pay is still prevalent among Silicon Valley companies, though AI experts are seeing their wages rise faster than anyone else. But firms have become obsessed with delivering the results that Wall Street analysts expect, and a lot of the revenue they bring in now goes toward AI infrastructure rather than universal wage boosts.

Employees are also expected to work longer to stay competitive – Google co-founder Sergey Brin thinks 60 hours per week is the perfect amount for peak productivity.

Another problem is that many firms aren't filling the empty roles despite taking on more customers, with mundane day-to-day functions handed over to AI. The WSJ reports on an Amazon Web Services manager who says that he had to return to writing code for the first time in a decade last year as the team that would normally do it wasn't available.

The publication reports on a Meta recruiter who was laid off by the social media giant and rehired as a "short-term employee." It means she doesn't get any pay increases, promotions, or stock, and she's responsible for a workload that used to be spread out among several people.

Productivity, streamlining, efficiency, and cost cutting are becoming the mantras for tech companies, which some say is being spurred by President Trump and Elon Musk's budget slashing and purging of government agencies.

The industry's amazing perks like almost-unlimited amount of leave, free merchandise and, in the case of Meta, free laundry and dry cleaning have gone. Even high-quality food and drink in the cafes is disappearing as companies look to save money at every turn.

Will things improve? As the economy starts to look shakier amid the Trump tariffs and the AI obsession shows no signs of slowing down, it's unlikely that the tech world will return to the shining light it once was anytime soon.

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The rate of IT people losing their jobs has turned into a pandemic. Most of them won't find any replacement, and they won't go flipping burgers or cleaning toilets. A lot of them will resent the possibility of getting out of IT, and turn to cybercrime. I expect cybercrime to go through the roof this year, thanks to the f-ng AI, and corporate greed. There is just nothing good in store for humans, it's all going down the toilet.
 
Why does every article like this immediately blame the president? Trump has nothing to do with this situation.....this issue began long before January. The signs have been clear since COVID restrictions were lifted.

I’m no Trump supporter, but honestly, can we get some neutrality here? We’re trying to keep politics out of TS forums. A little effort from the writers to keep things balanced would go a long way.
 
When I went to college in the early 2000s, I was asked repeatedly why I went for CS over IT. This is yet another example why: IT is too often seen as an expense, not an asset, and constantly gets outsourced.

That being said, even the CS side hasn't been doing hot. The guys who do application code are going to get slaughtered; those of us on the embedded side are a bit more protected, at least in the short term. But there's a drawback, and its quite obvious for all of us who suddenly have double the work to do.
 
People actually believe that increasing efficiency and productivity per employee… makes employers want to hire more? That doesn’t even begin to make sense. We saw the same thing happen with the Industrial Revolution. Less farm employees but more yield.

There’s always going to be hiring booms when new industries or supply lines appear, but eventually those demands be “solved” (the kinks will be worked out and/or more people will become qualified to do those jobs with better tools available, so, naturally the demand for skill and therefore wages) will drop in those circumstances.

Fast forward 20-50 years and you have one of two things: a dead end like being a phone operator or maybe a decent paying niche like being a COBOL programmer.
 
Why does every article like this immediately blame the president? Trump has nothing to do with this situation.....this issue began long before January. The signs have been clear since COVID restrictions were lifted.

I’m no Trump supporter, but honestly, can we get some neutrality here? We’re trying to keep politics out of TS forums. A little effort from the writers to keep things balanced would go a long way.
Because everything he is doing and has recently done is exasperating the problem far beyond tech. They simply stated that what he is doing is making things worse and not helping. Its completely relevant and that one line shouldnt trigger you unless you are not living in reality and think its helping us.

Thats a lot of fired government workers who were doing a great job. DOGE is costing America more than it cut and found no fraud.
 
I need a definition of what article calls an "IT" - java or .net dev, or a girl making coffee for the former's drawing pictures in Adobe PS when free time?
 
"The tech world will never be the same", the article claims, as is harps on about things that are exclusive to the US job market.

Tech worldwide took a hit after the pandemic, sure, but it's nowhere remotely near as bad anywhere else as it is in the US, and tech is still one of the better career paths you can choose in other countries. This is just a correction on the comically inflated US tech job market.

Oh no, are US programmers gonna lose their precious perks and have to accept wages that are only above average and comfortable, instead of easy six figures, like it has always been anywhere else in the world? Boo hoo.
 
Oh no, are US programmers gonna lose their precious perks and have to accept wages that are only above average and comfortable, instead of easy six figures, like it has always been anywhere else in the world? Boo hoo.
Yes, heaven forbid the people that make the products that result in tens of Billions in profits see even a sliver of that. And do remember that prices around tech hubs are set mainly to support those wages; if the wages go down, then expect the entire region to decline.
 
Because everything he is doing and has recently done is exasperating the problem far beyond tech. They simply stated that what he is doing is making things worse and not helping. Its completely relevant and that one line shouldnt trigger you unless you are not living in reality and think its helping us.

Thats a lot of fired government workers who were doing a great job. DOGE is costing America more than it cut and found no fraud.
I see your point, and, no, it's not triggering me.
I get where you're coming from, but I still don’t think it’s fair to point the blame in these types of articles on a tech site at the current administration. The problem goes beyond just his or Musks actions, it’s a bigger, more systemic issue that’s been building for a while. Are they helping, maybe not, maybe so, no one knows, time will tell.

I’m not ignoring that some things he’s done may have worsened the situation, but to suggest that everything is his fault (not just this article, but every article) feels like oversimplifying a much deeper problem. I will be the first to say Trumps not the answer in my opinion, but he is not the problem either, these issues have been churning for a long time, I digress there is still time to see how bad he and Musk mess up, to say its a problem is early, we haven't seen the results yet, its only been 3 months, but I am sure there is a lot more blame to come.

As for the fired government workers, it’s a real loss, and while I understand the concerns around DOGE and its costs, I still think there are many factors contributing to the current state. It’s not as clear-cut as just blaming this administration, no one truly knows the extent of what is "wasteful" or "useful", that's another thing that time will tell.
 
Because everything he is doing and has recently done is exasperating the problem far beyond tech. They simply stated that what he is doing is making things worse and not helping. Its completely relevant and that one line shouldnt trigger you unless you are not living in reality and think its helping us.

Thats a lot of fired government workers who were doing a great job. DOGE is costing America more than it cut and found no fraud.
Trump is hurting the economy, BUT saying giant tech company's "cost cutting... is being spurred by President Trump and Elon Musk's budget slashing and purging of government agencies" is a nonsensical connection made by a child.

It holds as much water as arguing that Trump's government cuts spurred my grocery store's price cuts on apples.

I'm all for related political debate, but Big Tech is laying off people because A) they over-hired during covid, B) they have poured billions into AI with little to show for it and now they have to look like they have some plan staying profitable, and C) in certain cases just general mismanagement (Intel). Intel has been a dumpster fire of missteps lately and are heading towards the end of the company if something doesn't change. Lumping their layoffs into the general industry issues misses the plot.
 
If they pay more fol longer hours and those are not required im ok with it. For now, 36 hours a week is totally enough for me and my employer, and already planned 6 weeks of holidays.
In addition, AI is not an issue. It is not AI which is going to get advantage on you, it is people using AI which would get an advantage. It is simple, there is a new technology and time to embrace it. AI itself is just a help, and if some company overused it and firing people... they will have shortly a lot of issues as this is not ready yet to make optimized, manageable code production-ready.
The trump/musk related issues are not so about the 'optimization' but about their strong longing for slavery, where rich people getting richer, poor being poorer. That is why we see in one sentence 'layoffs' and 'long hours'. Long hours are there because there were layoffs and too much work for a single person to do in a normal time. So now he needs to spend more hours to get the things done, and he wont complain under a supervisor whip called "you're next".
This makes no other sense than to instill the fear and make examples to put slaves in place. With US policy preventing labour unions, reducing free and family time, using redundancy and AI buzzword as whipping leverage getting back to the ideal capitalism is pretty close, so much I wonder if US instead of fight China decided to actually join them from the other side - never before oligarchy was that strong there, and this will be only stronger in coming years (insider trader is great stuff to ensure rich getting richer, and poor without contacts will keep paying for that)
 
I'd say this is what you could call a "post covid" normalization. But it's more than that. We're looking at some companies establishing a global monopoloy within their segment - which leaves the remaining companies to restructure. Amazon, Nvidia, Apple -> They're pushing out competitors, and it'll become much worse as these companies are also getting special treatment. Intel will continue to shrink the next years as well if they don't come up with something revolutionary soon. Intel's big "performance cores and efficiency cores" strategy didn't become as popular, or worked as good as they had hoped. The AI boom, which in fact is just a money sinkhole atm. (Copilot for instance, is mostly useless for other tasks than transcripting teams meetings).
AI will become a thing eventually within apps, locally etc. -> But right now chatGPT, which is online, is so much better than their competitors that currently there's no huge need for local integrated AI
 
I see your point, and, no, it's not triggering me.
I get where you're coming from, but I still don’t think it’s fair to point the blame in these types of articles on a tech site at the current administration. The problem goes beyond just his or Musks actions, it’s a bigger, more systemic issue that’s been building for a while. Are they helping, maybe not, maybe so, no one knows, time will tell.

I’m not ignoring that some things he’s done may have worsened the situation, but to suggest that everything is his fault (not just this article, but every article) feels like oversimplifying a much deeper problem. I will be the first to say Trumps not the answer in my opinion, but he is not the problem either, these issues have been churning for a long time, I digress there is still time to see how bad he and Musk mess up, to say its a problem is early, we haven't seen the results yet, its only been 3 months, but I am sure there is a lot more blame to come.

As for the fired government workers, it’s a real loss, and while I understand the concerns around DOGE and its costs, I still think there are many factors contributing to the current state. It’s not as clear-cut as just blaming this administration, no one truly knows the extent of what is "wasteful" or "useful", that's another thing that time will tell.
I dont really see them say it is Trumps and Elons fault.
"Productivity, streamlining, efficiency, and cost cutting are becoming the mantras for tech companies, which some say is being spurred by President Trump and Elon Musk's budget slashing and purging of government agencies."

"As the economy starts to look shakier amid the Trump tariffs and the AI obsession shows no signs of slowing down, it's unlikely that the tech world will return to the shining light it once was anytime soon."

I dont see them really blaming Trump and Musk for anything other than mentioning that some folks are talking about it. It would be stupid to blame tech layoffs on Trump and Musk, I am not arguing that.

The 2nd quote is saying that what Trump is doing isnt going to help and thats pretty crystal clear to most folks who dont live in a cult (Not saying you do as you clearly have a level head based on your response here).
 
"60 hours is the peak of performance..." - Google

60 hours is 5 days of 12 hour shifts...

Anyone is losing peak performance after 4 hours of work...

These people are imbeciles who ask for their employees to do as much as them as Directors or CEOs while being paid 20-50 times less...
 
Why does every article like this immediately blame the president? Trump has nothing to do with this situation.....this issue began long before January. The signs have been clear since COVID restrictions were lifted.

I’m no Trump supporter, but honestly, can we get some neutrality here? We’re trying to keep politics out of TS forums. A little effort from the writers to keep things balanced would go a long way.
He is responsible for the biggest downturn in the stock market in the recent history and will make a lot of business impossible to do in America since all these tariffs are not tariffs... they are now embargoes...

Don't lure yourself, tech is the main business USA was exporting to China.
 
If they pay more fol longer hours...
No, you don't get the notion of overtime in the tech world...

They don't ask you to do after hours, they ask for your dedication that they are going to pay you ZERO dollars for...

It is them doing you a favor by making you part of the company, not you for contributing for their businesses worth Billions or Trillions of dollars...
 
No, you don't get the notion of overtime in the tech world...

They don't ask you to do after hours, they ask for your dedication that they are going to pay you ZERO dollars for...

It is them doing you a favor by making you part of the company, not you for contributing for their businesses worth Billions or Trillions of dollars...
I work in the tech world, thankfully not in US. It is crazy how they exploit people there. As I said, modern slavery at its finest:/
 
In this mix is the H1B Visa which allows foreign tech works in. They have been replacing new Computer Major grads and experienced techies for decades now. These workers are paid less, educated by American tech experience and then return to their home. During Trump 2.0 and Musks raging they've beening given exemption in deportation. Entry into the USA continues. Another way the deck is being stacked against American workers.
 
Why does every article like this immediately blame the president? Trump has nothing to do with this situation.....this issue began long before January. The signs have been clear since COVID restrictions were lifted.

I’m no Trump supporter, but honestly, can we get some neutrality here? We’re trying to keep politics out of TS forums. A little effort from the writers to keep things balanced would go a long way.
Donald has made much the World look at anything from the US with skepticism and that includes IT services and software, that is not going benefit those that work in IT in the US.It also won't impact much straight away, but Donald only started his second term a 100 days ago so there is literally years before the situation gets better and it likely will just get way worse.

Now on crappy working conditions in general. I suggest relocating to Europe, a normal work week here is 37h, there a minimum of 5 weeks paid vacation per year, paid sick days, months of paid maternity leave... much of this thanks to people being part of unions only in many cases it is also just the law here.

To relocate you'll need a work visa, but with IT skills finding work at a company this side of the pond won't be to hard and language skills isn't gonna be a problem - most people here speak English and that goes especially for anyone in tech.
 
Yes, heaven forbid the people that make the products that result in tens of Billions in profits see even a sliver of that. And do remember that prices around tech hubs are set mainly to support those wages; if the wages go down, then expect the entire region to decline.
That's one way to look at it. On the other hand I do know people in tech who are not only making good wages but are also benefiting from stock options and discounted stock purchase programs. That is how a lot of larger companies and even smaller startups share "profits" with employees. There are also 401K programs with matching contributions which is essentially free money. No, not all companies have these things but many do.

As for declining wages impacting the surrounding region, I suppose that depends on where you live. Seattle is somewhat of a tech hub but a decline in IT wages isn't going to impact the entire region. We have other industries here like agriculture and manufacturing. Lower IT costs may actually help these businesses.
 
The biggest perk in tech nowadays is getting to survive the next layoff round. Who needs free laundry when existential dread is complimentary?
 
And there in, lies part of the problem. CEO's, stockholders want stocks to go higher and higher.
If reducing the workforce, making employees work longer hours boost up the stock price
that's all that matters to them.

But firms have become obsessed with delivering the results that Wall Street analysts expect
 
I work in the tech world, thankfully not in US. It is crazy how they exploit people there. As I said, modern slavery at its finest:/

I'm also in Tech, outside the USA. Totally agree. U.S. tech workers are driven into the ground, with little annual leave. It's seen as 'good' when you work through public holidays and don't take your (earned) leave. You can go to most Western countries and earn a great salary and still have a proper work / life balance, be healthy, be around for your family, and have a good social life. If I was a tech worker in the U.S. I would look at moving to a country that appreciates your value.

The U.S. tech industry will only change when it realises that it has to compete with other countries that offer high salaries and an appropriate work / life balance.

Your job should not be your life.
 
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