Thoughts on Vista/What is Your Problem With Vista

[God Of Mana]

I got it a while ago, its faster but very much like XP. -.-

 

[jdeh@comcast.ne]

Vista Bsod!!!

I need to read the mini dumps from vista to see why I am gettin BSOD's every morning when I get back on. The PC has not been shut down overnight so I suspect an early morning anti-virus scheduled job may be causing it to BSOD.

Can someone tell me what software I need to look at these mini dumps and where the dumps are located. Also, if I can't decipher from the dump what is causing the BSOD, what resources/support is available here to help me with that?

Thanks, Jeff

 

[FaithlessX]

vista make me cannot play lots of game..=(

 

[N3051M]

you can download the debugger from ms' website. Its exactly the same as the XP one, just uses different set of symbols for debugging (which you can download).

There is a thread here on how to debugg windows minidumps but i don't have a link on me. I'm sure someone'll point you in the right direction.

Faithless, try setting compatibility mode?

 

[pyromaster114]

Vista is a fairly good operating system from what I have seen.
I used to think "Vista is crap, I'll use Linux before I use Vista..." but then I tried the final version of Vista on my friend's Laptop, and I have one thing to say:
Vista + Video = nicer than XP.

I played a video file on the machine just briefly to test the player I installed on it (The very same version that I use on my XP machine.) and it somehow (I guess because of better caching or something...) managed to make it look much better....

 

[Tmagic650]

I got to use a Vista Home Premium HP laptop for a week in Las Vegas, at a friends house. It took me about 2 days to get familiar with Vista. I was able to network the wireless laptop with a wired network and configure Vista to print from a wired printer, wirelessly. A lot of the configuration was very similar to XP Pro... I was impressed with the HP laptop and Vista. Sweet!

 

[pyromaster114]

Just installed Vista Ultimate on my laptop, which was (for some reason) crashing way too often.

I have to say, that I was pleased with the compatibility of programs that I already had for my XP systems.

Combined Community Codec Pack installed without any trouble.
VLC Media Player I also had no problem with.
AVG anti-virus installed fine.
I even installed the program I use on XP for emulating a web server running PHP and mySQL, and it worked fine so far.

I was just about to install Photoshop... hope that works alright.

I had to upgrade the RAM from 1GB to 2GB to get it to run well, but other than that the same hardware that runs XP runs vista just fine.

So far, I have been very pleased with Vista Ultimate so far.

 

[bakerboy26]

I am running Vista home premium and its working great here now.. Had a few issues with drivers when I first installed it about 6 months ago and that is about it..

Gordy

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

Vista ain't too bad, once you get used to it. The main reason I didn't like it was because of the driver issues it had (and some it still has). But NVIDIA's drivers have improved vastly over the months and although they're not at ATI's level of development, they'll get there soon enough methinks.

 

[mickzer]

Yet another reason to wait:

http://apcmag.com/vista_activation

mickzer.

 

[Tmagic650]

This "deactivation" happens in XP too. My wifes CDROM died, and the new drive caused me to have to reactivate her XP. Microsoft's call to activate has become more automated and easer to use, but you still get a friendly East Indian human, when the automated activation fails

 

[SNGX1275]

I read that article yesterday I think, or whenever it was on Digg's main page. Its a pretty worthless article, it doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. We knew hardware changes could trigger deactivation, didn't know a driver update would, but did know you just call up microsoft and they take care of the problem for you. Aside from a minor annoyance there is no real problem here, and that shouldn't prevent you from getting Vista.

 

[Mictlantecuhtli]

It didn't say if this happens in OEM versions only, or are retail versions affected as well.

I've changed a lot of drivers and hardware with computers running Vista during the last year or so, and I've never experienced this. Then again, I've only used MSDN or retail versions, never OEM.

 

[revjacques]

It is a mistery why explorer.exe runs at 25% on my almnost brand new Vista cquad core Nevertheless, I work on 4 computers and friend of mine on three and one that works good is xp with one gig of ram all Vista computers, have problems:
1.empty folders on the desktop that can not be deleted (very common Vista problem)
2. can't delete deleted email from windows mail( very common)
3. explorer runs on some computers up to 100 % of processor and crushes..I got lucky only 25%
4. crash on every restart. very common vista problem
I have trully hard time to believe that there is someone out there unbelivably lucky who can use Vista without wasting time constantly fixing your own computer
5. most vista users I know either already did or are planning to reinstall XP....I need my computer and dont have time to fight Microsoft spew
The memory of Millenium schould be put aside.
I am angry
tomorrow I will take my laptop back to the store (i bought it only 6 days ago) already crashes
the desktop, I spent over $1000,- on is almost useless Unfortunatelly i can not return it.
Nobody can fix it, and with 4 gigs of memory thing is slugish and crashes all the time.
I bought it becouse my old computer which runs great couldn't handle new Adobe programs(for some architectcural reasons)
I hope Microsoft will come out with something good soon
It's not truth tah every system starts bad..I had 2000 from very beggining and even though drivers were hard to find, the system was great !!!! XP were from beggining the best system Microsoft ever made, and Vista has only Millenium to compet against in hands down worst piece of ...ever made.
After horror of Millenium, we got 2000 which was a dad of XP....Only hope is what will come after this disgrace............

 

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Now I do have a problem with Vista:

This means about 90% of my DVDs won't play (I'm yet to try VLC).

 

[revjacques]

I went to Microsoft help center....after i enetered PRECiSELY the code from my computer it says:
your code needs to be in the form:...
1234-XXX-12345-1234
and that is exactly what I did.....neat trick
You may have to buy DVD player...and I have to buy a computer Microsoft doesn't know about.........wander how...

 

[Mictlantecuhtli]

I think this is because my DVD drive's firmware isn't restricting enough. I can't remember the last time I've changed region codes - and I own DVDs from all regions, so that five times would run out pretty fast. I guess I watch DVDs in Linux then.

 

[warchief1988]

I dont mind vista...looks cool, but isnt compatable with alot of games yet, and while it will be eventually its not worth spending a money on maxing out my ram slots yet....because there is no denying moving from xp to vista you will get a massive performance decrease.

 

[revjacques]

Well i have nothing but problems with vista and not one single benefit...
I can't find one reason on planet earth to use Vista. As far as problems, there are too many of them and the whole system is extremely unstable..........

 

[SNGX1275]

warchief1988 - What are you talking about? Admittedly I don't play many games, but I've not ran into any that won't run in Vista, and I don't know of any game that will run in XP but not Vista (although I'm sure there are some).

revjacques - If it isn't stable you have hardware problems. I've been running it for ~9 months now, and only had 1 crash, and that was because I was doing some weird networking stuff with the beta of Windows Home Server and mapping a drive on an OS X 10.3.9 system. 1 lockup when doing something pretty unusual with beta software isn't anything to complain about. If you can't make it run stable either you have old hardware that is taxed too much in Vista, or you simply have bad hardware.

As for reasons to use it, here are just a few: Better memory management, better visual appeal (if this wasn't important then why has it been improved through time on every OS), media center functionality built in for everything except basic and buisness, vastly improved image importing and tagging from digital cameras, ect.

 

[warchief1988]

Its not just that vista "can't" run alot of games, it can "run" most games just not very well. For example, my friend recently bought a new laptop loaded with vista on it, it runs some games fine but then my friend goes to play world of warcraft (his system should be more than capable of running this with a high fps) I mean heck he has 2GB of ram and a nice Nvidia chipset and updated drivers, and vista refuses to give him a descent framerate. You can blame this on whatever you want but i know its vista.....im sure it will be fixed in the future but as of now i wouldnt dream of upgrading to vista until they get all the bugs worked out.

 

[SNGX1275]

It probably won't get fixed since the game wasn't 'designed for Vista'. It was quite some time before there were games that performed better in XP than 98. This isn't quite the same case because the core of the OS didn't change as much, but it changed enough that I think it applies here. Unlike OS X, you can't just slap Vista on older hardware and expect it to run nice.

 

[revjacques]

Microsoft Certified Vista Hater (MCVH)

I don't play games and I have 2 and work on 3 computers with Vista..
comuter#
1. started crashing on a day 3 and is crashing on every restart, can not delet "deleted e-mail"
2. Kept on throwing all kinds of messages in first week..replaced ,replacement started crashing on week 2 and still crashes on every restart can not delete empty folders from a desktop runs explorer.exe at 25 % of processor for no reason
3. Got it week ago crashed on the first restart..took it back to the store and got replacement for two days replacement works flowless.
when you talk about:..."
As for reasons to use it, here are just a few: Better memory management, better visual appeal (if this wasn't important then why has it been improved through time on every OS), media center functionality built in for everything except basic and buisness, vastly improved image importing and tagging from digital cameras, ect."...better memory management????
Vista is out of control memory hog and slugish and slow no mettter what memeory you put in I'm up to 4 gigs of memery and still not enough
better visual appeal is a joke..
as for digital camers ..that is exactly what I do digital video, and I use programs not windows to do it
and those programs used to run well with XP
while nothing really works well with Vista....(well maybe Windows Player)
I do not see any advantage of using Vista
now better looks against thousends of $ in new equipement that works poorly in order to look good....... no thanks

warchief1988 - What are you talking about? Admittedly I don't play many games, but I've not ran into any that won't run in Vista, and I don't know of any game that will run in XP but not Vista (although I'm sure there are some).

 

[halo71]

Vista is out of control memory hog and slugish and slow no mettter what memeory you put in I'm up to 4 gigs of memery and still not enough
better visual appeal is a joke..

This interested me. Can you please elaborate on that statement some more? How is 4 gigs not enough?

 

[warchief1988]

It probably won't get fixed since the game wasn't 'designed for Vista'. It was quite some time before there were games that performed better in XP than 98. This isn't quite the same case because the core of the OS didn't change as much, but it changed enough that I think it applies here. Unlike OS X, you can't just slap Vista on older hardware and expect it to run nice.

Its not slapping vista on older hardware this is a brand new machine factory loaded with vista.....