'Threshold' wave of updates to target Xbox One, Windows and Windows Phone, will further...

By Jos · 20 replies
Dec 3, 2013
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  1. With Windows 8.1 out in the wild Microsoft has already started work on the next major milestone for the operating system. The update is being called “Threshold” internally -- named after a planet in the Halo universe -- and marks...

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  2. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 2,997   +1,317

    Just. add. start menu. and other non-full-screen features related to the system to the desktop version. Make it optional. Make metro optional. EVERYONE IS HAPPY.
  3. Metro is optional.... install a start button and you never have to see it again...
  4. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 2,997   +1,317

    I shouldnt have to install a start button, nor do I want to. The less external apps running the better. The only one I have running right now is steam. And thats the only one I ever have running, apart from fraps occasionally.
    wastedkill likes this.
  5. abysal

    abysal TS Booster Posts: 114   +40

    Agreed, I'm tired of know-it-alls from the phone / tablet generation talking non-sense. To them multitasking is switching from one full screen app to another. They are complete noobs I tell you.
    wastedkill likes this.
  6. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,654   +1,093

    For the love of god at least allow the option to window apps. it's basic windows functionality.
  7. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Metro On/Off function for devices without touchscreen. Sell Win8 for the promo price of $40 or whatever again. Watch Win8 market share devour pie charts.
    ikesmasher likes this.
  8. Matt12345170

    Matt12345170 TS Booster Posts: 106   +31

    I am really disliking this rapid release thing... it just doesnt work yet. It just ends up ****ing with things, and then I have to reinstall a bunch of ****... it really is not worth it... I did it with 8.1...but I probably wont be doing it again until the next major release
  9. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +96

    I think days of major releases are probably over, and they have moved on to a more incremental approach, hence the yearly cadence of releases like others. However, ensuring that these releases doesn't break things, and provide a seamless up-gradation is another matter.
  10. roxxas2

    roxxas2 TS Enthusiast Posts: 65   +22

    Well maybe if you bought more Windows Phones and Windows Tablets instead of iPhones and Android Phones you wouldn't be in this mess.
  11. Teko03

    Teko03 TS Evangelist Posts: 414   +186

    Excited to see Microsoft taking this approach, but I don' think we'll really see it in full effect until 2015 --- Windows 8 apps are already on XBox One, but I think the RT& WP merger will take a bit longer. I still don't understand why they didn't do this from the start. Having to code apps twice is really hurting MSFT. There's a lot of apps available on WP that are no where to be found on RT and vice versa.
  12. mattfrompa

    mattfrompa TS Evangelist Posts: 553   +57

    What is even the argument here? You suggest that ike has multiple competing phones and that somehow supporting Microsofts alternatives would have given him the features he wanted? Or just that he would be "used to it" by now? Even so, 8.1 has a button, but the inconsistency with the win8 interface and desktop app can be jarring. There are plenty of tweaks to improve it, but MS' implementation of the new UI is just plain unfinished. Metro, win8, whatever should have been an app all on its own for the desktop. Give us a COMPLETE desktop os with a touch interface when the hardware is actually there.
  13. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    MS have made another tactical error. It is now apparent that W8.1 is not the same as W8 SP1 as demonstrated by the fact so many drivers no longer work. Enterprise will have more reasons not to switch from W7 and ordinary folk will question why they are lumbered with W8.1 when they buy new PCs or laptops.
  14. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +96

    Many Enterprise users probably will wait until these ecosystems mature a bit more, and reach merger point, because once that happen, it will make things lot more easier to plan and migrate their infrastructure.
  15. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,715   +3,696

    Thats impossible as long as people are installing third party ecosystems from different sources.
  16. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +96

    We are talking about enterprise users right?
  17. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    That post will undoubtedly win the plain English Award!
  18. I am tired of going on tech sites and reading comments from low information sheep that are just parroting what they heard a blogger said...

    I am currently in Cuba using a toshiba c870d laptop running windows 8.1 WITHOUT a touch screen...

    how is that possible? magic? no

    because windows 8 is basically windows 7sp2 with a full screen start menu... duh

    I have since installed windows 8.1 on 24 computers... NONE OF THEM HAVE TOUCH SCREENS

    I have the latest version of driver pack solution and a full copy of office 2013 which I hactivate alongside win8.1 using kmspico...

    it is one thing to say that windows 8 was made with touch in mind and mouse and keyboard separate but to say that it is IMPOSSIBLE to navigate win8 WITHOUT a touch screen is just *****ic

    windows 8.1 is ten times better than win7... less memory usage, more stable, less bluescreens...

    heck. I dont even try to fix peoples computer anymore... I just install win8.1, activate it, run driverpack solution, and install malwarebytes pro and maxthon cloud browser. I actually get LESS complaints than I did when they were using vista, win7 and GOD AWFUL xp.it takes TWO MINUTES to master windows 8. I have installed it on about 40 computers, only 5 of them had touch-screens.

    that is over FIFTY different people who I have shown the basics of windows 8(because some people share computers) and not one of them have come to me with any major issues about how to use windows 8 WITH A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD.

    is it because I am a super awesome teacher_ could be....but it is most likely that the most vocal critics of win8 have never even used it...yet alone win8.1

    I was extremely annoyed so I had to write this looooong speech.

    internet in Cuba is super slow so I had to wait 40 minutes just to comment as a guest because I only have access to facebook between the hours 4pm and 7am.

    if you do not know how to use windows 8 then do NOT call yourself an IT specialist or a tech person...

    I dont know what else to say... use it first THEN comment.

    also the captcha system is whack... I prefer to type in the fuzzy words instead of answering some random question
  19. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    Do you have any evidence that W8 is 10 times better than W7? Does it run 10 times faster, only suffer blue screen of death 10% of instances of W7. Is it 10 times easier to use than W7?

    Your post was only long because it strayed from the subject. Ten times longer than it should have been.
  20. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Heh, Guest, your response is identical to everyone supporting it: "Gee, I see now problem, have you even used it?"
  21. I'm sure you had a point in there somewhere, but I fail to see it... Maybe you can clarify it. Are you simply confirming what most suspect, being that most critics of windows 8 / 8.1 have simply never used it and are jumping on the hype wagon, or are you saying that most critics are psychic and can judge a book by its cover, or are you saying that most critics base their experience of windows 8 on windows 7 despite not actually having any experience on the former... and yes, all three of my points are identical... so what was yours?

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