Trump pardons US congressman who spent $1,500 of campaign funds on Steam games

penn919

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Your "mere reference" was to claim a defense of Snowden was Right-wing partisanship. Yet the vast majority of Snowden's supporters come from the Left. Why not simply admit you were wrong, and move on?
...and why would I do that? You already confessed your partisan motives. I won't even bother addressing your oppo research because you clearly have me mistaken.

I'm not here to role-play your left-wing counterpart. If any of the Biden family is proven guilty in a court of law then they should suffer the consequences. Obviously there is a conflict of interest and ANY pardon would be an abuse of power. For this reason I believe in either restrictions upon Presidential Pardons or their abolition altogether.

Judging by your own investment in the topic, its clear it has you bothered as well. Your rhetoric doesn't line-up with your verdict. It's past time you cease with the mud-slinging and be honest regarding the real problem.
 

Crinkles

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Another of Trump's Pardons:

"Stephanie Mohr, a Maryland police officer was sentenced to 10 years in prison after her K-9 police dog bit an illegal immigrant while responding to a burglary. Officer Mohr had already served the maximum 10-year sentence for a civil rights violation when President Trump granted her a pardon yesterday. ... She was just a 24-year old rookie at the time of the incident..."

This nobody ex-cop's case is decades old, Mohr sic'd her police K-9 dogs on 'innocent people' FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES, resulting in federal civil rights cases against herself.

She used the dogs to attack and injure homeless people. She {edit "B"} was tried, convicted, and incarcerated, now at 50 years of age she's been crying to trump about losing her time with her child.

Mohr, like Stone and 28 others the same day, was pardoned by trump, for trump reasons. This is not the random internet innocent 24 yo kid/girl being portrayed, Mohr is a violent misanthrope with a bad attitude and also a violent ex con, she belonged in prison.
 
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raddude9

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First of all, mind your own business. I don't know what country you are from, but your opinion as to our government is worthless. I assume, based on your condescension, that you are European. Europe is the source of both fascism and communism, plus almost all of colonialism. Europe almost completely screwed the world multiple times in the 20th century.

Second, the Constitution is the best thing about the United States federal government. If it was actually followed by the federal government, things would be better. The Constitution did more to expand the rights of the individual than any other document in history.

What-about-ism at it's finest.

So, let me get this straight. If a European criticizes the US constitution, then that criticism cannot be valid because of a bunch of stuff that happened in Europe long before that poster was born. Did I get that right?

Don't get me wrong, the US constitution was pretty good for it's time (other countries adopted similar constitutions around the same time), but the idea that the US constitution has not been bettered in the last 200+ years is staggering in it's arrogance.

As for "expanding the rights of the individual", it wasn't until 1865 that slavery was abolished, and that was well after many other countries, so perhaps those other countries in fact had constitutions that better protected the rights of individuals. Just a thought.
 

Arbie

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If a European criticizes the US constitution, then that criticism cannot be valid ... Did I get that right?
No, you got it wrong. Nobody said invalid.

the idea that the US constitution has not been bettered in the last 200+ years is staggering in it's arrogance.
Nobody said that either!

it wasn't until 1865 that slavery was abolished
Whataboutism at it's finest.

And BTW almost all those other constitutions fell apart when faced with the challenges CBTex listed.

We shouldn't divert into who's constitution is best, but how to prevent the neo-fascist now in our White House from throwing ours away.
 
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raddude9

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No, you got it wrong. Nobody said invalid.

Nobody said that either!

Whataboutism at it's finest.

And BTW almost all those other constitutions fell apart when faced with the challenges CBTex listed.

We shouldn't divert into who's constitution is best, but how to prevent the neo-fascist now in our White House from throwing ours away.

C'mon, blaming an assumed European for their history instead of looking at their point is clearly an ad hominem attack, not an argument.

Surely the fact that some seemingly well written European constitutions failed the test of fascism 75 years ago should serve as a warning that other similar documents that have barely been updated in the last 75 years could be liable to similar problems. I honestly don't care which constitution is best, but when people just assume that their's is, it worries me that they have not learned the many lessons that other countries could teach us.
 

Arbie

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they have not learned the many lessons that other countries could teach us.
That's fair, in theory. Right now I too am a mite tetchy, and too worried about present threats to be open to any lessons, or comments from the international peanut gallery. Apologies for my previous tone.
 
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