Trump says tech giants, not consumers, must pay higher electricity costs tied to AI data centers

[Loadedaxe]

Well, this shows me that this real estate broker doesn't understand how software and manufacturing business work. Yeah, right, take the money that goes to the higher-ups and stockholders to pay for their stuff? Not!!! <sigh>

Seriously.....No one is saying companies should magically fund infrastructure by “taking money from shareholders” in some cartoonish way. Capital industries already budget for massive upfront costs as part of operating. Data centers, fabs, pipelines, factories, and cloud regions don’t get built by passing a hat around to consumers first.

Stock buybacks, executive compensation, and dividend policy are choices, not laws of physics. When companies see strategic value or competitive pressure, they reinvest internally all the time. Hyperscalers have spent hundreds of billions on capex over the last decade without collapsing shareholder value.

Claiming this shows ignorance of software or manufacturing economics actually misses how those businesses work at scale. Infrastructure investment is how they defend margins and market share long term.

Again, dismissing the argument because of who said it instead of engaging with the substance doesn’t make it wrong.

 

[bandit8623]

Lmfao blinded but that orange skin much .
This article for instance none of it came from him, and if they have they removed the 4 hours extra of magnets are great incoherent ramblings of an old man.

Are you guys waiting for him to pale from orange to old yella, then take him out. Noem can shoot puppies and animals from 10 paces.

If you charge companies for anything, they pass that bill on to the consumers to make it back.

Tariffs. See how he knows fk all about tariffs this is identical in its implication.

Even the person writing the article must know they just wasted their time reporting anything that guy says.

like I believe anything in politics fully? ha. I mean how does bernie get rich? every single one of them sucks to a degree. trump needs to tone down the arrogance a ton and I would like him much more.. but hes actually delivering on policies he ran on. and no I didnt vote for him because he was going to release the files...

 

[p51d007]

I've already read on other sites where "cities" where these data centers are located, have said
there may be rolling brown out/blackouts due to the demand from these AI data centers.
Shows you that the power companies in that area want the money coming from the data centers,
at the expense of the CONSUMERS.
Screw that! Data centers should be brown/blacked out.
If these data centers want more power, then pony up the money to build out the grid, new power
plants etc!

 

[JMGuy]

Get a life...it was a joke.

But seriously. If you believe either party (or politician) has your best interest you are sadly mistaken. They are only in it for themselves.

Wow, hit a nerve apparently. My sincerest of apologies for engaging. Might want to work on how punchlines work.

But in other news, cynicism isn’t wisdom—it’s the laziest way to sound informed without saying anything new.

Enjoy your evening.

 

[Watzupken]

Another reason to be cautious about the EV push. It would be putting even more strain on the electrical power infrastructure and would put the increase in utility bills on steroids. It may come down to a push n' shove battle between AI and EV.

The EV narrative never made sense to me. Electricity has to come from somewhere, so 0 emission is fake. For all you know, electricity for the car may come from a coal generator. And as you rightfully call out, there are other knock on impact when tapping on the grid for power.

 

[Watzupken]

AI datacenters that have infinite budgets for compute should not only pay for the electricity but also all of the infrastructure needed to get it to them.

However: 1) Trump posting on social is meaningless and 2) these rate increases are because state and local politicians sold out to the AI companies.

Local politicians have given these company massive tax breaks on top of special electrical pricing believing they can claim they "created jobs" in the next election. Yeah, a handful of IT jobs is totally worth the benefits thrown at the company. /s

AI creating jobs? If we look at 2025 itself, I think the massive layoffs reported left right and center proves the opposite. All AI did was a make a minority very rich, while everyone else foot their bills. Which is why this minority wants to keep this bubble inflated.
Anyway, I do think it is easy to say that big techs need to foot the bill, but it will be difficult to execute it. Ultimately, there is a limit to existing infrastructure and as I said before, someone wasting it means someone else will get less of it, and/or, pay more for it when demand overtakes supply. If big tech pays more, you may eventually see these power companies prioritising them over all individuals. We can already see this happening for RAM, NAND, etc...

 

[m3diapers]

I may or may not work for DOE, and now I actually feel fulfilled doing research for the public good. Under the Biden administration, we worked hard to ban gas cooktops and failed, luckily. This administration stopped all the nonsense and put researchers back to doing what we are experts at.

 

[3volv3d]

Another reason to be cautious about the EV push. It would be putting even more strain on the electrical power infrastructure and would put the increase in utility bills on steroids. It may come down to a push n' shove battle between AI and EV.

Economy over ecoIogy still.
I see 1.6 billion combustion cars being chucked into a land fill full of nasty products rotting in landfills while people move on to EV.
Rare cars may get modded, someone's Pickup from 1991 that they lost their virginity in and have kept ever since.
The rest rotting into the ground polluting the environment that's a lot of crap. Water and food qualities gonna be minging.
And for anyone having more than 2 humans that's an extra car per plebian.
Which means an extra home per. ( The world doesn't have a housing crisis, it has a population crisis)
Which means less space for roads and less space on roads. You're gonna be leaving 6 hours before work and still gonna be late.
And then you have *****s thinking flying cars will be a good idea.
No.
Honestly if you have roads with bends in lose them. Romans people. Go straight. Tram up people.
Mag Lev trains are where it's at. 1000km/h baby.
Them Japanese are smarter than Elaine Musk.
Then maybe you can leave the oil.

I'm sure the reason we still have cars is cause the people with all the monies wanna stay rich using their crap systems until the day it runs out or we run out. Which ever is first.
$50k x 1.6 billion. That's their maths.

Why make a better world, when it's already fkd to death. Oh I hear ya. No use in trying huh.

But EVs I don't see it. Tesla worst car ever. Yet sheeple buying them up.

 

[Loadedaxe]

Economy over ecoIogy still.
I see 1.6 billion combustion cars being chucked into a land fill full of nasty products rotting in landfills while people move on to EV.
Rare cars may get modded, someone's Pickup from 1991 that they lost their virginity in and have kept ever since.
The rest rotting into the ground polluting the environment that's a lot of crap. Water and food qualities gonna be minging.
And for anyone having more than 2 humans that's an extra car per plebian.
Which means an extra home per. ( The world doesn't have a housing crisis, it has a population crisis)
Which means less space for roads and less space on roads. You're gonna be leaving 6 hours before work and still gonna be late.
And then you have *****s thinking flying cars will be a good idea.
No.
Honestly if you have roads with bends in lose them. Romans people. Go straight. Tram up people.
Mag Lev trains are where it's at. 1000km/h baby.
Them Japanese are smarter than Elaine Musk.
Then maybe you can leave the oil.

I'm sure the reason we still have cars is cause the people with all the monies wanna stay rich using their crap systems until the day it runs out or we run out. Which ever is first.
$50k x 1.6 billion. That's their maths.

Why make a better world, when it's already fkd to death. Oh I hear ya. No use in trying huh.

But EVs I don't see it. Tesla worst car ever. Yet sheeple buying them up.

This is mostly a rant built on false assumptions. No one is dumping 1.6 billion cars into landfills overnight. Vehicles are already heavily recycled because steel, aluminum, copper, and batteries are valuable. EV adoption is gradual, not a mass purge.

Lifecycle data shows that burning fuel for 15 to 20 years causes far more pollution than the one time manufacturing and recycling footprint of an EV, batteries included. That’s why this isn’t controversial among serious analysts.

Trains, trams, and maglev are great where they make sense, but they don’t replace last mile transport, freight, rural access, or emergency services. It’s not cars versus trains. It’s systems working together.

Disliking Tesla doesn’t invalidate EVs as a category.

Economy versus ecology is a false choice. Environmental damage is an economic cost, whether you acknowledge it or not.

 

[scavengerspc]

And there are those that can't just get over Trump Disciple Syndrome.

Oh hell, I get it! TDS! I always thought it meant Trump Dementia Symptoms.

Maybe Trump can use tariff revenue to improve infrastructure, but he won't.

Well now, that's just silly! How would that work when he is promising to hand out checks totaling more than tariffs have collected?
Maybe we can do the tRUMP thing and add it to the debt! I mean all of a sudden that
is the MAGAt way of "fixing" things.

Economy over ecoIogy still.
I see 1.6 billion combustion cars being chucked into a land fill full of nasty products rotting in landfills while people move on to EV.

Well that would be a trick since there are just under 300 million cars in America
and, ironically, 1.6 billion vehicles in the world. So........daily recycling?

 

[stewi0001]

One thing I have learned about any political person, don't go by what they say but what they do.

 

[ZedRM]

Well, this shows me that this real estate broker doesn't understand how software and manufacturing business work. Yeah, right, take the money that goes to the higher-ups and stockholders to pay for their stuff? Not!!! <sigh>

How does what you said have anything to do with the point of the article or what I said about it?