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Trump's campaign wants the government to control 5G

By mongeese · 17 replies
Mar 3, 2019
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  1. “A 5G wholesale market would drive down costs and provide access to millions of Americans who are currently underserved,” Trump’s press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told Politico. In many ways, she’s right. But the whole idea also reeks of weak campaign promises, designed to get votes and not much more.

    Presently, every frequency is legally controlled by the Federal Communications Commission who lease them to companies and other government organizations through “spectrum auctions.” Companies like AT&T and Verizon, for example, recently competed in America’s first 28 GHz spectrum auction, which resulted in 2,965 licenses costing $702 million.

    The new system, while still in the theoretical stage and likely to change, is something of a cross between the electricity system and the game Monopoly. The government might auction off a certain minimum amount of frequency to each provider at the start of a year, enabling that company to have infrastructure that can take advantage of the 24 GHz band, for example.

    However, three telecoms decide they all want a piece of the 24 GHz band, but none of them is a clear market leader. In the first part of the year one has booming sales, so they need extra spectrum, but in the second half of the year another company steals the customers and now they need the spectrum. The new system keeps a portion of the 24 GHz band in reserve, and auctions it out on a weekly or daily basis to the company that has the customers to take advantage of it.

    With this method, there will theoretically be faster speeds during peak usage, as spectrums don’t get clogged up as companies can simply add new ones as demand increases. It also means that no frequency is wasted, as unused frequency simply lowers in price until it’s worth it for a company to buy it. And of course, the government can choose to only loan frequencies to companies that have regional networks.

    That doesn’t mean there aren’t problems, however. “Instead of trying to ‘out-China, China’, as some proponents of a nationalized ‘wholesale’ network monopoly suggested, we reaffirmed our faith in that most American of principles – competition in a free and open market,” says the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association, who represent the big telecoms.

    The industry is violently against the proposition, saying it will stifle growth and slow down development. It could, too: by buying up a lot of spectrum in advanced, companies can plan and build infrastructure in anticipation of new technologies. Large companies also already lease out their spectrums and physical networks to smaller companies, and the new system would ruin those highly successful deals.

    Of course, it wouldn’t be a Trump initiative without some potential scandal attached. The main proponent of the new system is Revada, a company backed by Trump’s ally Peter Thiel. Revada hopes to be the middle-man that leases out the spectrum for the government, something that could make Thiel very rich indeed. And the lynchpin: Trump’s Deputy Assistant for Technology policy, Michael Kratsios, formerly worked for Thiel.

    Regardless, changing the frequency and spectrum market has fascinating potential. There’s no doubt we’ll hear a lot more about this in the coming months.

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  2. Vulcanproject

    Vulcanproject TS Evangelist Posts: 755   +1,091

    He went on to say that with 5G and 6G the USA would lead the world with 11G
     
  3. seeprime

    seeprime TS Guru Posts: 396   +424

    Does the word "regional" mean "rural" in the context of the article? It reads better if I think rural.
     
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  4. netman

    netman TS Evangelist Posts: 350   +112

    Another tool for NSA spoofing in everyone's everyday life!
     
    Gmachine likes this.
  5. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,937   +2,261

    I don't think you understand how it works. They download literally every bit of information that goes across the world fiber optic Network. They are so far past needing to own a 5g network to spy that it's rediculous.
     
  6. Lounds

    Lounds TS Maniac Posts: 229   +140

    The UK government already does this and for the most part it does work. Although 4G is still hit and miss.
     
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  7. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,619   +598

    It might be a good thing but why does someone Trump is close to have to get insanely rich in the process.. smh.

    "The industry is violently against the proposition, saying it will stifle growth and slow down development. It could, too: by buying up a lot of spectrum in advanced, companies can plan and build infrastructure in anticipation of new technologies. Large companies also already lease out their spectrums and physical networks to smaller companies, and the new system would ruin those highly successful deals."

    "Of course, it wouldn’t be a Trump initiative without some potential scandal attached. The main proponent of the new system is Revada, a company backed by Trump’s ally Peter Thiel. Revada hopes to be the middle-man that leases out the spectrum for the government, something that could make Thiel very rich indeed. And the lynchpin: Trump’s Deputy Assistant for Technology policy, Michael Kratsios, formerly worked for Thiel."
     
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  8. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 4,098   +3,655

    It would be great but I think Pai would sue him first.
     
  9. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 5,534   +3,914

    It is highly doubtful that either Trump or Pai would create anything useful out of this other than an attempt to commercialize it for their own benefit. Hopefully we'll have a change of administration at 2020 and a "chance" of a more citizen friendly environment.
     
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  10. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,389   +1,019

    I thought Republicans wanted LIMITED GOVERNMENT?

    That's what they SAID when Obama was in office...
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2019
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  11. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 15,075   +4,083

    They do, but only as it attaches to their personal agendas.
     
  12. RaXoR

    RaXoR TS Addict Posts: 153   +115

    Control the medium, control the media. This will give the government control over what you can or can't do.
     
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  13. OutlawCecil

    OutlawCecil TS Evangelist Posts: 696   +500

    Trump everyday: I want ______ and I want it nowwwwww! *whines like little child*
     
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  14. mbrowne5061

    mbrowne5061 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,240   +693

    "Large companies also already lease out their spectrums and physical networks to smaller companies, and the new system would ruin those highly successful deals."

    You misspelled "ruin those monopoly-reinforcing deals". If any company can lease spectrum on demand, it becomes possible to grow as fast as they can sign up customers, so consumers will see lower prices and contracts with terms that favor them instead of the telecom (I.e. walk away whenever you want, no penalty). You likely would see an increase in competition between carriers in this case.

    Now, all those bits about Peter Thielf? Yeah, that is what reeks here.
     
  15. Cubi Dorf

    Cubi Dorf TS Booster Posts: 150   +51

    I don’t knowing United States politics, but if isp companies don’t want then it probably save you monies
     
  16. Jeff Re

    Jeff Re TS Addict Posts: 160   +125

    The companies already don't pay anywhere near enough for the spectrum.
     
  17. netman

    netman TS Evangelist Posts: 350   +112

    God doesn't give you what you want even if you pray countless times.... God only gives you what you need, if you are lucky!
     
  18. Danny101

    Danny101 TS Guru Posts: 821   +324

    I have no idea!
     

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