Twitter roundup: bankruptcy threat, top staff leave, Musk's payment system plans

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wiyosaya

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The previous administration spent years driving twitter into the ground, alienating users, and losing billions. Blaming musk for driving twitter into the ground is quite disingenuous and shows your personal bias.
I've made no efforts to hide my dislike of Musk, but I think that anyone arguing that Musk's instant loss of advertisers is anything but disastrous to Twitter has their blinders on to Musk and his flaws.
Well, one can't exactly say that the previous administration was any good. If it were, then Twitter would never have been in the state that it is. It was badly run but I have no belief that Musk will do any better.
We are in agreement that Musk will do no better. I think Musk will be worse. Most any company has their flaws, but at least the previous administration was able to hold onto advertisers from which Twitter derived their profits. Twitter's hemorrhaging advertisers after Musk's glorious buyout is telling.

Personally, I think Musk looks like the fool fooling himself. He seems to believe his own manipulation of his image which is totally constructed on him taking credit for the success of others even though he had no hand at all in that success.
 

wiyosaya

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Why are the people that hate social media always the ones that don't have any friends?
Let me guess. Somehow you think the friends you have speak to the character of your being? Maybe so, but I think if you derive your self-worth from the number of friends you have makes you a prime target for an epiphany when you realize the true character of the friends you have and perhaps your own principles are challenged when you find yourself doing things to keep the approval of your friends.
 
Because the messiah calls a true hero a pedophile?
oh no - it's a cultural reference to pantomimes here in the UK - in the spirit of the scene in Life of Brian where Brian's mother has a conversation with a crowd outside his window.

"he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"
My reply had the added piquance of being a bit ambiguous - but in fact I remembered the scene wrong, that's what I thought they yelled back at her - in any case, it still fits, sort of ...

To be clear - I think the man is a tool - fame and fortune and too many people worshipping him sent him up his own arse. I mean he did some amazing things, and I'm not sure I wouldn't end up my own arse given the same situation, but that **** with the caver was unforgivable, and so are his recent tweets on Russia and Ukraine.
 

captaincranky

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oh no - it's a cultural reference to pantomimes here in the UK - in the spirit of the scene in Life of Brian where Brian's mother has a conversation with a crowd outside his window.
You must be getting old. Oftentimes, my comedic references draw blank stares as well. (I'm in my 70's).

Speaking of Monty Python, here's one scene from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", I'll never forget:

 
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wiyosaya

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To be clear - I think the man is a tool - fame and fortune and too many people worshipping him sent him up his own arse. I mean he did some amazing things, and I'm not sure I wouldn't end up my own arse given the same situation, but that **** with the caver was unforgivable, and so are his recent tweets on Russia and Ukraine.
Oh, now I get it. ;) However, I think if you look up those amazing things he supposedly did (assuming you can find the truth about him - perhaps you can in one of these https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=debunking+elon+musk+) I think you would find that he's done nothing amazing and surreptitiously taken all the credit.
 

Avro Arrow

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I've made no efforts to hide my dislike of Musk, but I think that anyone arguing that Musk's instant loss of advertisers is anything but disastrous to Twitter has their blinders on to Musk and his flaws.
People don't worship Musk if they aren't delusional.
We are in agreement that Musk will do no better. I think Musk will be worse. Most any company has their flaws, but at least the previous administration was able to hold onto advertisers from which Twitter derived their profits. Twitter's hemorrhaging advertisers after Musk's glorious buyout is telling.
Twitter will be dead within 5 years, no later.
Personally, I think Musk looks like the fool fooling himself. He seems to believe his own manipulation of his image which is totally constructed on him taking credit for the success of others even though he had no hand at all in that success.
The Emperor has no clothes....? :laughing:
 

captaincranky

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Let me guess. Somehow you think the friends you have speak to the character of your being? Maybe so, but I think if you derive your self-worth from the number of friends you have makes you a prime target for an epiphany when you realize the true character of the friends you have and perhaps your own principles are challenged when you find yourself doing things to keep the approval of your friends.
Ooooooo.....DEEP.....very deep. 不

That's in effect, the parents, (and defense lawyers), lament. "He's a good boy, your honor, he just fell in with a bad crowd. :rolleyes:
 
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wiyosaya

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Ooooooo.....DEEP.....very deep. 不
:D
That's in effect, the parents, (and defense lawyers), lament. "He's a good boy, your honor, he just fell in with a bad crowd. :rolleyes:
Well, you know those lawyers - if they couldn't blame their client's faults on someone else, they'd be out of business. 45's lawyers, not to mention 45 himself, is(are) expert at blaming things on everyone else but the responsible person staring back from the mirror. :laughing:

I'm sure Elon follows the same methodology since he's taken credit for others' success and genius. Its easier that way when others are responsible for your faults. :laughing:
 

Avro Arrow

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"he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"
I think that you should've included this with your statement since not everyone has had the pleasure of seeing Terry Jones dressed up as a Judean prostitute:
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"BEHOLD HIS MOTHER! THE MOTHER OF THE MESSIAH!"
 

captaincranky

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Maybe, but he's a freakin' genius. I love what he's doing to twitter. He knew what he was doing.
And I agree with you. Trump did win the election, and he should be allowed to shout it from Twitter's rooftop until he runs out of Adderal and needs his diaper changed. Let's all get together and support Mike Lindell as well. We should start by each of us buying enough "My Pillows" to fill any spare rooms we might have.

It's a damned shame neither one of us owns a major corporation, we could spend double our advertising budget to bail poor Elon out.

I'm sure he'd be "ever so grateful"/
 

Avro Arrow

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I think Musk will do fine and if not he might or will have other options. Just gut Twitter and start all over again, and it can be something else too. People who are mad at Musk for buying Twitter should blame the shareholders who accepted the takeover deal. Shareholders got their money and now could care less about Twitter. Do you think that Jack Dorsey when he left cared about Twitter? I doubt it. Rich people stick together.
Sure, but Musk is the richest of all. Who does he stick together with? :laughing:
 
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