Weekend Open Forum: What do you think of Facebook's acquisition of Oculus and VR gaming in general?

[Guest]

I think Facebook just want to buy anything that seems interesting and might had prospect on it in the near future..

 

[Wendig0]

I had a feeling Oculus would sell out, and that's fine to a gaming company, but to Facebook? Hurts me right in the feels.

 

[wastedkill]

I had a feeling Oculus would sell out, and that's fine to a gaming company, but to Facebook? Hurts me right in the feels.

Facebook bought it so when april 1st comes they will put out "We are abandoning Oculus and we are releaving the team" with everyone thinking its a april 1st joke they will laugh but in reality they really did just destroy Oculus and disband the team.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

I think that at least 99% of all responses will be negative. And I don't see the point in even asking, since it is not going to change anything.

You are probably right. I honestly don't have any interest in this technology at the moment. Tell me, what's the difference between playing a FPS shooter on a flat 21.5" monitor(my personal size right now) and playing it through a VR headset? Answer: On the monitor you don't have to actually twist your neck constantly to look behind you to see if your about to get shot. You simply push your mouse to the left or right mere millimeters to see behind you.

I can't predict a success or failure of the technology until I have actually tried it. But like 3D movies it's nothing I stay up at night dreaming about. I'ts not something I foam at the mouth for. We'll see what happens and what will be will be.

I do dream about 1TB Blu Ray discs. I know, its a weird thing. But it would just be so cool to me. Archival Disc is the answer to all my prayers if it ever reaches a consumer level price point.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Facebook buying Oculus in my opinion is the worst thing that could have happened. The future of Oculus will be determined, if it can be kept separated from Facebook.

 

[TheLastPanda]

I do dream about 1TB Blu Ray discs. I know, its a weird thing. But it would just be so cool to me. Archival Disc is the answer to all my prayers if it ever reaches a consumer level price point.

I'm really interested at what you would do with multiple 1tb disks at a consumer level. What would you be archiving that takes up that much space?

 

[TheLastPanda]

If a single shred of FB made software is mandatory, then no. If they just want to fund it then ride a paycheck into the sunset then maybe it will still be fine.

Im also curious to see how many people complaining about this still use Facebook. Probably the vast majority of you contribute add cents here and there to them.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

I'm really interested at what you would do with multiple 1tb disks at a consumer level. What would you be archiving that takes up that much space?

Backing up my 1.5TB Seagate Barracuda hard disk over 2 platters instead of 30 DL BD-R discs? Movies, games, music, images. I have about 100 old DVDs I could image and burn to a single 1TB AD disc. I could burn 20 Blu-Ray movie images to a single platter. I rarely ever do full hard disk backups in case of a failure because its too time consuming. If I could burn 1TB at a time I could probably "set it and forget it".

I guess I am easily amused by advances in technology even if I don't have a dire need for them. You have caused me to realize that my dream is empty and frivolous. *sigh*

"Take a look at me now. Im just an empty space."

 

[SNGX1275]

I'm really interested at what you would do with multiple 1tb disks at a consumer level. What would you be archiving that takes up that much space?

HD: [C:] 86.27/249.90 GB [D:Media] 1643.12/1862.89 GB [E:SD Movies - Misc] 262.51/1862.89 GB [G:] 222.46/1613.01 GB [H:HDTV] 31.15/1397.25 GB [O:Seagate Backup Plus Drive] 335.23/3726.01 GB [Z:Torrents] 12.23/930.13 GB

The first number is my free space, second number is total capacity of that drive. That is why a 'consumer' needs large storage space.

 

[captaincranky]

...[ ]....I do dream about 1TB Blu Ray discs. I know, its a weird thing. But it would just be so cool to me. Archival Disc is the answer to all my prayers if it ever reaches a consumer level price point.

Not that this is anywhere near on topic but........, As you must surely realize, as data density would increase, ( given the same area for storage, 5 1/4" disc), the manufacturing tolerances allowed in the reading device, would become exponentially more minute. This is substantiated by the pathway width in Intel's latest processors. But instead of a static device, such as a CPU, here we would be dealing microscopic tolerances of moving parts, another ball game entirely.

As with anything mechanical, it doesn't take much read or write deviation to render a DVD or Blu-Ray disc unreadable. Picture how critical that situation would be, at many multiples of current storage density.

I'm really interested at what you would do with multiple 1tb disks at a consumer level. What would you be archiving that takes up that much space?

Even modern "erotic art" photography, has embraced, (pun intended), the vast amount of cheap storage space available to consumers. I have seen photo shoots with the "average" number of shots, (about 100 or so), coming in at over a gigabyte in size. If and when 4K comes into it's own, "mainstream" HDD capacity, will, of necessity, be well into the multi-terrabyte region.

Again, art photographers are using cameras at up to 100 mega-pixel resolution. The buying public equates high pixel counts, directly with quality. That isn't necessarily true, but it's the concept that's sale-able, in the here and now.

I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with this trend, just acquiescing that it exists.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

Not that this is anywhere near on topic but........, As you must surely realize, as data density would increase, ( given the same area for storage, 5 1/4" disc), the manufacturing tolerances allowed in the reading device, would become exponentially more minute. This is substantiated by the pathway width in Intel's latest processors. But instead of a static device, such as a CPU, here we would be dealing microscopic tolerances of moving parts, another ball game entirely.

As with anything mechanical, it doesn't take much read or write deviation to render a DVD or Blu-Ray disc unreadable. Picture how critical that situation would be, at many multiples of current storage density.

What, you have never heard of Gorilla Glass? Furthermore, mechanical parts move the laser yes but the laser beam is not a mechanical part.Furthermore, I think you are completely forgetting about the multiple layers aspect of the technology as well. Anyway, those are Sonys problems to solve, not yours or mine.

Its Sonys promise to the world....not mine:
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201403/14-0310E/

Are you accusing them of fraud? Or are you just trying to crush my dreams? Who else wants to take a sledgehammer to my already shattered hopes? Get in line....

"You wanna break me down, you wanna hear me say it? Okay, I'm afraid. For the first in my life Im afraid!!!!"

 

[ET3D]

I think that at least 99% of all responses will be negative.

Probably representing 1% of gamers.

I think that in the long run Michael Abrash is right and Facebook's money will give Oculus the opportunity to create the best product they can and improve it over time. I also think that branching to non-gaming apps will improve the adoption of VR in general.

All in all, I don't think Oculus will suddenly become worse for gaming just because of this buyout, and probably will become better. However a lot of people will still resent it just because they want an exclusive technology that doesn't sell much and not something that every Joe and Jane are using for their non-gaming purposes.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

However a lot of people will still resent it just because they want an exclusive technology that doesn't sell much and not something that every Joe and Jane are using for their non-gaming purposes.

Interesting thought process there. Does that also mean that if more people started tattooing their faces that ink addicts would stop getting tattoos? Gamers don't play games because it makes them feel 'unique'. At least I never did. I played them for fun.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Here is my thought. I don't see VR ever becoming anything I would be interested in, if it is tied to Facebook.

 

[VitalyT]

Probably representing 1% of gamers.

I think that in the long run Michael Abrash is right and Facebook's money will give Oculus the opportunity...

It is not that people question what Facebook can do with the lots of the money it has, it is about what Facebook represents in itself, its motivation and commercial goals, is what people hate, in contrast with the purity of the Oculus research that it was up until now, which was sold out as a spit in the face of all of its supporters and firm believers.

As the saying goes, throw a spoon of $hit in a barrel of honey, and it's all $hit then.

 

[ET3D]

Interesting thought process there. Does that also mean that if more people started tattooing their faces that ink addicts would stop getting tattoos? Gamers don't play games because it makes them feel 'unique'. At least I never did. I played them for fun.

Yes, I'm pretty sure that if tattooing became commonplace then "ink addicts" would try something more extreme. There's a lot of self definition in people's choices.

In this case many comments do feel like it. Obviously some people resent the idea that the target market of Oculus will not be just gamers, even though logically that should not negatively affect its applicability to gaming.

A lot of what people say is their own skewed perception of reality. Why would anyone imagine that the result of the acquisition will be ads in games? And do any of these people boycott Android devices, where Google does offer the API's for ads in games?

 

[cliffordcooley]

In this case many comments do feel like it. Obviously some people resent the idea that the target market of Oculus will not be just gamers, even though logically that should not negatively affect its applicability to gaming.

I'm fine with that. It is the thought that someone bought it, who hasn't really made a name for himself, other than the lucky dorm room break that made him famous. Don't get me wrong, I'm trying not to belittle him personally. I think it is great that he made his fortune at a young age. I can't stand what he has done with Facebook and fear the same for Oculus, regardless of whether it is strictly for games or not.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

I'm fine with that. It is the thought that someone bought it, who hasn't really made a name for himself, other than the lucky dorm room break that made him famous. Don't get me wrong, I'm trying not to belittle him personally. I think it is great that he made his fortune at a young age. I can't stand what he has done with Facebook and fear the same for Oculus, regardless of whether it is strictly for games or not.

Your not trying to belittle him. It must just come naturally for you.

What are your specific reasons for hating on Facebook. I don't like it because of privacy issues. Anything I posted on there I assume can or will be read by anybody at some point in time. Therefore, I treat private messages as being public in the most extreme circumstances. Most treat it differently. It's like famous couples making a sex video and locking it in a safe and thinking that no one will ever see it.

But is the fact that people so freely reveal the smallest details of their life Facebooks fault? Or that they make money selling advertisements? Is your hatred of Facebook rational and can it be justified?

 

[cliffordcooley]

What are your specific reasons for hating on Facebook.

Lets keep it small and say the forced Timeline was the final straw. I might would still have Facebook account and continuing to ***** about all the other things I hate, if Timeline hadn't of been a forced update. As it is I have been happy without Facebook and will never give Zuck anymore of my time, where Facebook is concerned. At least with Windows you can keep your settings set, and choose when you want to upgrade. There is a sense of stability with Windows, Facebook was always broken somewhere somehow. But please keep in mind I have no idea what Facebook has been like since the Timeline release, nor do I care to know.

 

[VitalyT]

What are your specific reasons for hating on Facebook.

How do I put it…

Facebook is a tribune for self-proclaiming *****s, indulging in festive mediocrity and sharing moronic or at best worthless thoughts and ideas.

Without a doubt, it is also a unique place for people with low IQ to scratch their ballzzz publicly. Although let's be fair, they are not unique in this, as uTube is evidently right there next to them.

 

[baN893]

I was so excited for the oculus rift. Now I'm worried and disappointed.