WikiLeaks reveals massive surveillance effort, crippled by DDoS attack

By Rick · 9 replies
Aug 13, 2012
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  1. Last week, Wikileaks released internal documents and emails obtained by hackers regarding TrapWire, a privately-owned surveillance technology utilized by various private and public agencies. It appears TrapWire works by collecting surveillance data from participating private and public sources (CCTV cameras,……

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  2. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 1,936   +1,101

    Hopefully that rat website of wikileaks get's permenently taken down. Everyone knows Uncle Sam breaks all rules, regulations and boundaries to get any information he wants. No, your password protected cloud data and text messages aren't private.
    But hey, maybe I am just a crazy conspiracy theorist...hahaha.
  3. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    The only, and most salient question here is how long Wikileaks had this information.

    If they only got it, with a few days, maybe week or two prior to the disclosure, that's one thing.

    But if they've been sitting on this for months, then why is everyone kissing his rear?

    We say the gov't is bad, but an egomaniac who decides when and what will be released? How is he better than any other corrupted source of power? How about he disclose his personal finances and those of Wikileaks. He keeps complaining that he's getting cut off from sources of donations, what has he been using them for?

    He wants to be a power broker. How do we know he's not selling stuff that he has to interested parties, or withholding other information because he's being paid to?

    Nobody knows, but he's the internet's darling.
  4. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,872   +1,291

    He's the Internet's darling for the same reason that the press frames Anonymous as just a pack of mischievous kids: both of them are incredibly selective about who they try to attack, defame and endanger. As long as their agenda more or less coincides with that of the liberals who control the Western media, they'll keep getting a pass. The day after Wikileaks posts Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, the site will be gone and Assange will be found in a ditch outside Amsterdam.
  5. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Topic Starter Posts: 4,572   +65

    In Wikileaks' defense, it may not be an arbitrary decision.

    The Wikileaks staff has, in the past, redacted sensitive personal information from big leaks like those of informants, civilians etc.. This practice has been attributed to the significant delay of particularly big leaks.

    Agree with the practice or not -- and it may or may not be the reason in this case -- but I imagine it takes a great deal of time to comb through documents like these and make those kinds of choices.

    The total sum of information surrounding TrapWire has been slowly leaked since the beginning of this year.
  6. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    Oh agree with the practice, although redacting information from e-mails from an American security company kinda pales in comparison to failing to redact names when it comes to informers and covert operatives in Afghanistan...

    When we read about this five or ten years down the line, I think people will find a lot of their faith in this guy misplaced.

    Like I've said, if this really was about information, it would have all been released to media organizations worldwide who have a legal and ethical obligation to redact info, not gradually released by someone with neither, whose agenda is completely unknown.

    As far as TrapWire, from what I've read other places, the information about what they do has been somewhat readily available for years. But if WL releases it, it becomes controversial. If this stuff has been going on in the UK for decades, why would Americans assume that their own gov't is not doing it?
  7. Guardian31756

    Guardian31756 TS Rookie Posts: 17

    I've been wondering if Hollywood knows something about this and it presents it to the public through Movies and TV.

    This bears a close resemblance to the TV series called " Person Of Interest ".

    Maybe Hollywood is the real WIKI LEAKS !
  8. TJGeezer

    TJGeezer TS Enthusiast Posts: 385   +10

    Jeez, that's a really old political tactic. If you don't like what someone reveals (such as the fact-checking done by you can attack the character of the person who revealed it. "You can't fool all the people all the time but you can generally fool enough of them to get by. "

    If you're accusing the WikiLeaks guy of doing these terrible things, cite some actual evidence, please.
  9. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    Yeah, here you go:

    And his character is key here, because he holds the information.

    But whatever, you agree with him cause you hate the US, hate authority, whatever. You do your own digging, I'm not going to waste my time providing citations for some meaningless internet stranger. I did my research, you want to know more, you do your own. You want to blindly believe him, go right ahead.
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  10. Doctor John

    Doctor John TS Enthusiast Posts: 204   +15

    Should be enough reading there to go on with, saves all the time & trouble of typing too! ;)

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