Windows 7 users won't let go of the aging OS

[loki1944]

No thanks. W7 never gave me the constant problems and brave new world overmind attitude of w10.

 

[Potato Judge]

On the last steam survey, Win 10 is already the leading OS. I wonder if game developers will be abandoning Win 7 as well when support ends.

 

[rickst35]

Linux will never happen in USA Retail. In Retail, Microsoft is a de-facto Monopoly. It derives from the co-marketing agreements.

 

[rickst35]

Linux will never happen in USA Retail. In Retail, Microsoft is a de-facto Monopoly. It derives from the co-marketing agreements.

Most of my computers run Linux. The exception runs Windows-7 for quickbooks, and will probably never be upgraded to "Windows 10".

 

[Knot Schure]

I wont stop using the lowest DPC latency OS. Simple as that.

For what, directx 10 games?

DX11, do try to keep up.

Remind me again, how many DX12 games are there? Or even how many DX12-ONLY games are we missing out on?

 

[Knot Schure]

It's because Windows 7 was the last good iteration of the OS. From 8 on they stuffed their tablet OS into their desktop OS and now the whole mess is just a bloated piece of garbage. My Windows laptop will remain on W7 until it dies. After that, Linux or nothing.

It may be Linux for me too.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/169712/microsoft_admits_linux_threat.html

 

[Arnie J]

This is because a majority of regular users don't like Windows 10's interface and constant updates. I'm not talking about IT or big corporations, I'm talking about the majority of mom's dad's and teachers that stick with Windows 7 because they just don't like Windows 10. I hear it all the time.

 

[Danny101]

It's because Windows 7 was the last good iteration of the OS. From 8 on they stuffed their tablet OS into their desktop OS and now the whole mess is just a bloated piece of garbage. My Windows laptop will remain on W7 until it dies. After that, Linux or nothing.

Windows 8 should have remained a tablet OS, but mistakes were made. Windows 10 has been great, and overall performance has been better than Windows 7. We all know that every other OS that Microsoft makes is a good one. WinXP (Awesome), Windows Vist (Trash), Windows 7 (Awesome), Windows 8 (Trash), and Windows 10 (Awesome).

I was on a 2002 XP system until 2009 when I did a new build with Vista. It ran fine for me and so I never understood what the problem was. I used that system for 4 years until after I have moved and discovered it had fallen in storage. Then I ended up getting a laptop with 8 and was in a shock of my life. I actually never used 7 that much and only after I installed it on a system that I was refurbishing for a family member. Except for Windows 8, all the others were fine relative between the current hardware and the current OS. Windows 8 just sucked, period. Regardless of the available hardware. Microsoft just lost it. I understand, sort of, of what they were trying to do, but they should have forked Windows into two tracks. One for desktops/programs, and one for apps/tablets and phones and it would have been fine. Today could have been a different story with Windows Phones and tablets also doing well.

 

[loki1944]

On the last steam survey, Win 10 is already the leading OS. I wonder if game developers will be abandoning Win 7 as well when support ends.

That would be real smart; lose 25% of your potential customers.

 

[loki1944]

Ive used Millennium, Vista and 8. Personally I didn't have issues with them, however I wasn't big into computers when I had Millennium. Just something I had got at that time. With Vista, I knew computers, wanted to try the new OS. IMO once the service pack come out, it fixed a lot of issues for people. I cannot recall ever having any major issues with it. I know many called it a resource hog but after it's first year, a lot of things did get fixed.
Windows 8 was hated by most, 8.1 fixed a lot and some people think it's the best version. I don't agree, I think 10 is better imo.
I agree that 10 has better performance than 7.

To the people who don't trust Windows 10, you do realize the same people made XP and 7. So you trust those but not 10. It's all the same crap just wrapped differently.
Also if you truly feel that way, do what Cal and some others will do, run to Linux. But we all know that wont be working for most. So we will all be seeing all these 10 haters come to 10 sooner or later. Just a matter of time.

It's not just about trust; it's about unfettered user control.

 

[solinus]

I still use Windows 7 on two of my computers. The only reason is for Windows Media Center that to this day still holds up quite well as a DVR especially with a few tweaks here and there. Microsoft missed a golden opportunity to be THE premier OS for Media Center PCs by not continuing on. They could have ruled the ecosystem and had major integrations with all sorts of things. Until there is a reason to move away and another media center system that supports encrypted cable card channels, I'll stick with what is working quite nicely. Thank you very much.

 

[BSim500]

On the last steam survey, Win 10 is already the leading OS. I wonder if game developers will be abandoning Win 7 as well when support ends.

I doubt it. Aside from the fact many dual-API games run slower under DX12 than DX11, and that games devs actually prefer DX11 due to being easier & faster to code for, by far the most optimised API for AAA gaming (Vulkan) is naturally cross-platform (W7-10, Linux, Android, etc). idTech 7 even uses Vulkan exclusively. With both Sony & Nintendo announcing next-gen console support for Vulkan too, Microsoft is actually starting to look the odd loser out when literally the only device that won't support it is the XBox for "special snowflake" reasons strangely reminiscent of ActiveX vs Javascript...

 

[hahahanoobs]

I'm just here to give hugs and hand out tissues.

 

[regiq]

Unless you're gonna come up w/ the next big thing as it relates to a new and better OS, you can spare me the crocodile tears. Come to think of it, I never knew you even existed until you had responded to my comment so what would give you such a farfetched idea that I would be remotely interested in anything other than Windows 10, lmao? Have an nice life.

Your answer, sooo predictable

 

[LFEdder]

If you go with Linux, go with Linux Mint, or Debian 9.9. There are a lot of Linux "distros" out there.
I threw Windows out the window 3 years ago. I havn't missed it at all. Mint is easy to install, and it will install right along side Widows. These day's I use Q4 OS. It is based on Debian Linux, a little more advanced version of Mint (which is also based on Debian). Give it a shot. I think you'll like it.

 

[LFEdder]

Windows 10 is the future regardless if these whiny outdated-OS using brats like it or not.

Only because MS practically is a monopolist on the PC OS market.

Switch to Linux Mint, or Debian 9.9. Microsoft isn't the only OS in town. There is a growing number of Windows users discovering Linux. It's free, and so are all the software that comes with it. Look around the web for Linux distros (versions). You'll be pleasantly surprised by what you find.

 

[Deucalion]

I have a system I can't update to Windows 10 because compatible drivers for that OS don't exist.

Simultaneously, I'm not replacing my nearly 9 year old laptop because Microsoft tells me to. It works absolutely fine, and still games like a champ assuming that I stick to games of the era.

This is my problem too. Started the upgrade a couple months ago and it stopped dead due to video driver incompatibilities

 

[regiq]

Switch to Linux Mint, or Debian 9.9. Microsoft isn't the only OS in town. There is a growing number of Windows users discovering Linux. It's free, and so are all the software that comes with it. Look around the web for Linux distros (versions). You'll be pleasantly surprised by what you find.

Elementary OS is my choice, Ubuntu based, highly recommended.

 

[Igrecman]

Switch to Linux Mint, or Debian 9.9. Microsoft isn't the only OS in town. There is a growing number of Windows users discovering Linux. It's free, and so are all the software that comes with it. Look around the web for Linux distros (versions). You'll be pleasantly surprised by what you find.

Elementary OS is my choice, Ubuntu based, highly recommended.

Mine is Manjaro, based on arch. Very simple to use and perfect for Multibooting. Lately there is a new Linux OS that is fast becoming the most popular. It is MX Linux. The only down side is that it won't install on a single partition, which I prefer for multibooting purposes. I have 15 OS on one PC on 4 HDD

 

[Dimitrios]

What's crazy is that the new motherboards coming out for the 3rd gen Ryzen chips support WINDOWS 7 lol.

 

[veLa]

This is my problem too. Started the upgrade a couple months ago and it stopped dead due to video driver incompatibilities

Guess what? It's also my video card drivers. The system I was referring to is an ASUS G73JH-A2 in case you were wondering.

 

[Deucalion]

Elementary OS is my choice, Ubuntu based, highly recommended.

What about drivers. I'm oooold... Back in the day (y'know, when we rode dinosaurs to school), linux didn't have so much in the way of drivers, hence the old joke "why does the linux car never win in nascar? Because it's hard to get good drivers".

 

[captaincranky]

Unless you're gonna come up w/ the next big thing as it relates to a new and better OS, you can spare me the crocodile tears. Come to think of it, I never knew you even existed until you had responded to my comment so what would give you such a farfetched idea that I would be remotely interested in anything other than Windows 10, lmao? Have an nice life.

I never knew you existed either, until I saw your garish and ugly Avatar..

And judging by your post count, why would I? Yet now you're here, imagining yourself, "large & in charge", talking down to people like Satya Nadella's right hand shill.

It's always the noobs who come in mouth blazing, about 10's supposed "absolute superiority".
(Personally, I think M$ is inflicting them on us, like some sort of Pharonic plague).

Windows 10 is the future regardless if these whiny outdated-OS using brats like it or not.

If this is the crap you perceive as being "a useful and friendly exchange of information":, then IMO, you have vastly over inflated senses of self worth & self esteem.

No one's forcing anybody to use Windows. You got other alternatives to choose from such as Android/Chrome OS and macOS, or Linux/Ubuntu if youre into free or open-source OS's. If you dont like the other options then well, tough titty.

Despite our differences, I wish you a warm and tender breast at which to suckle. Maybe Comrade Nadella has a sister he'll lend you...

BTW, Welcome to Techspot.

 

[Igrecman]

What about drivers. I'm oooold... Back in the day (y'know, when we rode dinosaurs to school), linux didn't have so much in the way of drivers, hence the old joke "why does the linux car never win in nascar? Because it's hard to get good drivers".

I had no issues with drivers with all my devices. It even was able to make a very old Fujitsu dot matrix printer work, but Windows 10 couldn't.

 

[regiq]

What about drivers. I'm oooold... Back in the day (y'know, when we rode dinosaurs to school), linux didn't have so much in the way of drivers, hence the old joke "why does the linux car never win in nascar? Because it's hard to get good drivers".

Unless you're on a 100% FOSS linux recent kernel with firmware binary blobs (not open source, but included in every main distro) cover even the most exotic need

Exotic software developed for windows is the main problem but you can always try it with Wine (not really good for modern games).