"Windows 9" preview set to arrive later this year, will focus on desktop users

TheBigFatClown

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Fair enough, although the barrage from my point of view started with QDOS and has been unrelenting since. I don't see any cause for optimism that Win9 will be any different, nor any MS product that follows.
Personally, I've been inured to the machinations of Redmond. You live with it in varying forms regardless of OS. After a while you learn the workarounds and the short form explanations to the lines of people crying that their new printer doesn't play nice

Again, fair enough. Software is always going to be a case of YMMV. Win8 (or 8.1) is by no means any pinnacle of mans achievement, but it has stopped a steady stream of people coming to me freaking out because their screen goes black and being assailed by some cryptic TDR message (as an example).

Again, personally, I'd be more than happy if Redmond devote 99% of their efforts into making sure that the OS works and is stable. The other 1%...well they can divide that up between making it look nice, maybe a new splash logo and a funky start button.

Rage on. I'll buy a doughnut for the first person who changes the mind of someone from the other camp.
99% efforts for working and stable? Seriously? No. There are many other factors required to qualify as a good operating system.

Well that gives me a better picture of your computing background and where you are coming from, but you do come on a bit strong. Well windows 8 has 3 skus (vanilla, pro, enterprise) was under the impression that it was staying the same. The biggest difference I have read about the difference between the 8's and threshold is the introduction of the start menu as default on non touch displays. But every screen shot I have seen of the redesigned start menu looks like the start screen shrunk into a menu with a pinned app\program list as we had in vista\7. For those like me who liked mui its a simple settings change (prob even done in initial setup). I really think if windows 8.1 had been the launched 8 the issues on launch would have been much smaller for a lot of people.
My posts are a little over the top. More dramatic than they need to be. I look at these debates as something similar to a UFC fight. They are for fun and entertainment mostly. You bash each others brains in for a few rounds and then hug at the end of the fight. Not that my opinions towards Windows 8 aren't genuine. I truly believe it sucks. I think Windows 9 will be more of what I want but not sure if it will be enough. But why not have a little fun in the discussion process. Make it colorful and exciting. :) *sigh* I am somewhat exhausted. I am feeling more like, "whatever will be, will be" at this point.
 

GeforcerFX

TS Evangelist
I've been dabbling with Linux for the first time. I'm not positive but I may be able to migrate all my needs. I won't be able to do it over night, but I think I can do it over a small amount of time.
It's really nice I have been more into GUI stuff with it since I got heavily into it in high school. Not huge on the command prompt but with time you learn what ou need to survive that recent article on TS was a great beginners guide. With more games moving over to Linux and more devs looking to support it I have spent more time in it. But for my "full" entertainment needs its still lacking. For my productivity needs its already ahead of windows out of the box. The just started messing with Ubuntu Studio after how much 14.04 Vanilla impressed me.
 
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ET3D

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The problem with Android is, you don't get desktop aplications, as you do with W8. You get ports of most software on Android like you would use in a computer but without the same interface, most of the ports dont have the same functionality.
I never said that W8 doesn't have benefits, in fact I bought a W8 tablet alongside my Nexus 7 precisely because of this.

All I'm saying is that in terms of interface, Metro is IMO worse than Android for both tablets and laptops/desktops. Android isn't that great for desktop use, it's just that I think that Metro is worse. As I said originally, I wish that Microsoft would also give more attention to streamlining Windows for tablet use (as well as desktop use).
 
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I have used Win 98, Vista , Me , Xp , 7 and 8 the latter, being the best and easiet OS to use. Never had any issues with windows 8 , its been a great experience. :)
 
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"Still clinging to Windows 7"? What is it with all of you early adopters? I'm still happy with XP!
 
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"still clinging to Windows 7"

You say that as if there were an actual reason to "upgrade" to Windows 8.
 

thelatestmodel

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You say that as if there were an actual reason to "upgrade" to Windows 8.
There are many. Windows 8.1 with ClassicShell is the best MS OS ever, without question.

Startup and shutdown times are the fastest they have ever been. My PC boots and gets to the desktop in under 10 seconds. Overall performance is also slightly better - it's leaner and has lower system requirements.

Security is better - Bitlocker is enabled by default, and antivirus is built into the OS. Windows Updates are barely noticeable now.

Multi-tasking and memory management is better. It has a better Task Manager. It has better support for multi-monitor setups.

If you don't upgrade to Windows 8.1, you are voluntarily leaving yourself with a worse PC for no reason (other than stubbornness or lack of funds). 100% fact.
 
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So when will the time be right for you to move on to Vista?
Get a grip...and maybe a sense of humor. Did I have to put "LOL" after that comment for you to realize it was a joke? Didn't referring to Win 7 users as "early adopters" give it away?
 

cliffordcooley

TS Redneck
If you don't upgrade to Windows 8.1, you are voluntarily leaving yourself with a worse PC for no reason (other than stubbornness or lack of funds).
Wrong!! Windows 7 machine is far from the worst machine. Hell Mac OS X can't be all that bad either. You are trying to make it black and white. Ride the edge of bleeding technology or consider yourself insignificant with the worst gear ever. Grab a pop-sickle and chile a bit before posting again. I think if truth be known; you don't ride the bleeding edge either, so what does that make you and your gear?
100% fact.
Since you were flat out wrong, I think we can rule out the possibility of it being 100%.
Get a grip...and maybe a sense of humor. Did I have to put "LOL" after that comment for you to realize it was a joke? Didn't referring to Win 7 users as "early adopters" give it away?
A facial expression would have helped, can you put that in your next joke? I want to see if your mustache is pointing up or down.
 

captaincranky

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If you don't upgrade to Windows 8.1, you are voluntarily leaving yourself with a worse PC for no reason (other than stubbornness or lack of funds). 100% fact.
I would tell you to, "get a grip".

But in truth, it would be far better for all concerned, if you relaxed the one you already have.:cool:
 
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Wrong!! Windows 7 machine is far from the worst machine. Hell Mac OS X can't be all that bad either. You are trying to make it black and white. Ride the edge of bleeding technology or consider yourself insignificant with the worst gear ever. Grab a pop-sickle and chile a bit before posting again. I think if truth be known; you don't ride the bleeding edge either, so what does that make you and your gear?
Since you were flat out wrong, I think we can rule out the possibility of it being 100%.
A facial expression would have helped, can you put that in your next joke? I want to see if your mustache is pointing up or down.
You'll have to explain that one - I'm not familiar with geek humor, but I'll assume it was a joke. I suppose I should have taken your previous question as a joke too, what with your suggestion that Vista was an "upgrade" from XP!
 
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I would tell you to, "get a grip".

But in truth, it would be far better for all concerned, if you relaxed the one you already have.:cool:


And what "grip" is that? In truth, it would be far better for all concerned if you made it clear who you are replying to.
 
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Just like we both made it clear our jokes were jokes!
Clarity, apparently comes hard for you. It should have been clear that I was addressing "captain cranky", as he/she was the one who made the comment. And you still need to explain the joke.
 

captaincranky

TechSpot Addict
And what "grip" is that? In truth, it would be far better for all concerned if you made it clear who you are replying to.
If you can't figure that out, in spite of that fact that I put the members original post in "quotes", then maybe you should consider going out and driving drunk with the rest of the "revelers". "Go play in traffic", as it were.

Or consider a remedial reading course.
 

cliffordcooley

TS Redneck
And you still need to explain the joke.
And you fail to understand I'm not the only one. You yourself started the whole misunderstanding, with dull humor such as my own. And I do believe cranky was addressing both of you, in a single sentence. He loves doing that sort of thing.
 

captaincranky

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Did our wee bonnie "guestie" get the "grip" inference?

'Cause that's really the point I was trying to make.

Let's try another one, "if the shoe fits, stroke it".

@cliffordcooley, and still, the doughnut goes uneaten.
 
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The Chad

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Windows 8.1 is a great O.S. worth giving a chance. Major improvements that any user would see are fast boot times, It manages SSD's and RAM very efficiently. And overall if you have a custom PC now that driver support has been worked out, "That took awhile". overall system speed increases. As for "not Metro"I use it as a Screen saver when I walk away from my pc, Switch it over to live tiles and when you get back check live tiles and back to Desktop. "Why with all the hate.."
 
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Did our wee bonnie "guestie" get the "grip" inference?

'Cause that's really the point I was trying to make.

Let's try another one, "if the shoe fits, stroke it".

@cliffordcooley, and still, the doughnut goes uneaten.
Well, I was hoping that you ment something else. I should know better than to try to inject humor into a geek forum. Thanks, however, for confirming my view that this one, like most, is merely a group masturbatory chat for all of you in need of lives. Hale, and fare well!
 

captaincranky

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Well, I was hoping that you ment something else. I should know better than to try to inject humor into a geek forum. Thanks, however, for confirming my view that this one, like most, is merely a group masturbatory chat for all of you in need of lives. Hale, and fare well!
Well, look who's looking for a life them self, and isn't going to find one here.
 

Railman

TS Booster
There are many. Windows 8.1 with ClassicShell is the best MS OS ever, without question.

Startup and shutdown times are the fastest they have ever been. My PC boots and gets to the desktop in under 10 seconds. Overall performance is also slightly better - it's leaner and has lower system requirements.
I have W7 on my PC and it boots pretty quickly. Thing is W7 works well with the programs I run so I do not see any reason to move to W8.

In fact I did quite a bit of research on the differences between the two operating systems. I actually purchased W7 instead of W8. One of the main reasons was the cost. W7 cost less to buy than W8 but to get the same functionality from W8 would also require the purchase of various add on's. If you are using a touch screen then I would say W8 makes sense.
 
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Railman

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An operating system is more than a desktop environment/GUI, everyone here would do well to remember that. If a user can't handle miniscule GUI changes like the ones offered up in the transition from Windows 7 to 8 then I don't think they have any place using a computer, frankly. Now that my elitist prejudices are out of the way lets get to the RAW FACTS
Sorry Bitvar but your first paragraph just shows how little you understand the realities of computing. Did you know that around 80% of the PCs in use with the NHS are running Windows XP? A major reason is due to legacy applications that do not run on newer OS's.

But of course virtually everyone now has to use computing in their daily lives as many Government Agencies now only accept web based applications. Clearly W8 has proved problematic to many which means it has failed as a viable OS. As you like facts MS are rushing out W9 with indecent haste!:confused:
 
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I'm thinking that all of us still using Windows 7 should get a fat discount for being smart enough to avoid all the "tile nonsense" in the first place.