Wish List: What TechSpot writers want in Windows 10

[cliffordcooley]

You can't see the rest of the picture just a colored square you don't even need to use. But then again...

If you knew me, you might could say what I need or don't need. Until then don't presume to know how I use my PC. I have not said one thing about how you use your PC or what you do/don't need. I stated what I want and what I think of Win8. I think I am a better judge of that than you. There is a such thing as two sides to a coin. I'm happy for you if your side is being called. It's not being called for me, because there is no option to choose either side. You keep lying and saying there are options, when I know there is not. There has been too many people complaining and I've not seen anyone make a statement saying they can customize Windows to their liking. I've seen several people say they have settled for what they ended up with, that is a far different story.

 

[DDG4005]

Another thought as to what I'd like to see in Windows 10: full support for Games for Windows Live (or Xbox Live). Now before I'm excoriated by everyone let me just say that I've always thought the service was decent; it just required some tuning. That said Microsoft has a chance to make good on its claim that it hasn't abandoned PC gaming by including native support for Live-enabled titles so that the client isn't required.

My preference will always be for games that don't require any DRM or authentication but if Windows 10 includes this feature that satisfy me a great deal.

 

[Kibaruk]

If you knew me, you might could say what I need or don't need. Until then don't presume to know how I use my PC. I have not said one thing about how you use your PC or what you do/don't need. I stated what I want and what I think of Win8. I think I am a better judge of that than you. There is a such thing as two sides to a coin. I'm happy for you if your side is being called. It's not being called for me, because there is no option to choose either side. You keep lying and saying there are options, when I know there is not. There has been too many people complaining and I've not seen anyone make a statement saying they can customize Windows to their liking. I've seen several people say they have settled for what they ended up with, that is a far different story.

Geez hold your panties.

I've been happy using W8-8.1 without the need to ever enter the metro interface, well now that might have been only my version of windows *shrugs*

 

[Railman]

Can't you minimize the ribbon?
Both Paint and WordPad have ribbon.It makes commands larger and easier to find.It will make many more features visibly discoverable.

I already have the ribbon minimized but it still annoys me because I would like the choice to have smaller icons. As a rule I do tend to use the task bar as you can populate it with commands that you want in the order you want.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

If you knew me, you might could say what I need or don't need. Until then don't presume to know how I use my PC. I have not said one thing about how you use your PC or what you do/don't need. I stated what I want and what I think of Win8. I think I am a better judge of that than you. There is a such thing as two sides to a coin. I'm happy for you if your side is being called. It's not being called for me, because there is no option to choose either side. You keep lying and saying there are options, when I know there is not. There has been too many people complaining and I've not seen anyone make a statement saying they can customize Windows to their liking. I've seen several people say they have settled for what they ended up with, that is a far different story.

Geez hold your panties.

I've been happy using W8-8.1 without the need to ever enter the metro interface, well now that might have been only my version of windows *shrugs*

But you keep making statements that imply you can avoid all the UI decisions that Microsoft bashed us over the head with in Windows 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2(aka as Windows 10).

How do you avoid the square windows and the lame color schemes? How do you avoid the philosophy of producing apps that try to seize ownership of the entire screen? Oh, you can minimize "apps" now in Windows 8.2. So, now you can minimize an app that was "designed" from the get go to be full-screen. LOL. Makes sense to me. *cough, cough*.

God what a mess. Trying to produce one operating system for all form factors. From a 3.7" cellphone screen to a 60" big screen television. And somebody thought one UI would work? *sigh*.

I will admit, they are waking up from their fantasy and realizing it just doesn't work that way. But they still have work to do. Windows 8.1 is virtually identical to 8.2. What a shame.

 

[Kibaruk]

BigFatClown, you have it all figured out already, my windows 8.1 version must be bugged out since I don't have those problems then *shrugs*

 

[TheBigFatClown]

BigFatClown, you have it all figured out already, my windows 8.1 version must be bugged out since I don't have those problems then *shrugs*

I hardly have it all figured out. I just think Microsoft deserves more than a slap on the wrist for their stupidity. Of course you would probably say a slap on the wrist is "just punishment" for their complete lack of respect for customers wishes. And their complete lack of common sense. They tried to "mold" people into what they wanted us to be. All just bricks in the wall. All the same color. All the same size. Only when it began to affect their wallets did they begin to listen.

No thanks to "oh god I love change" loyalists like you who probably wet your pants the same day you installed Windows 8.

 

[Jad Chaar]

Great article. It is nice to see everyone's opinion on the new OS. One thing I love about OSX that I wish Windows designers would adopt is the visual redesign of 99% of the OS rather than just half. MS opted for a flat and modern look for Windows 8 yet tons of elements of the OS were still Windows 7-esque. If you look at Yosemite in its latest form, basically everything was redone. Even the small icons within the OS. This type of meticulous attention to detail definitely makes the design update appealing. I hope MS does this with Windows 10, especially with their motto of it being " a completely new OS".

 

[Kibaruk]

All I've said mr. bigfathaveitallfiguredout is my copy of windows 8.1 must be bugged because I don't have any of the aformentioned problems, nor it's "pouring rain" on my computer, nor I see big colored bricks on every part of the system, but then again it must be a bug on my version.

Keep raging though, you make an excelent point there.

 

[OperationKosovo]

They say 10 is the "breadth of the family" or "THE seven just ATE THE nine" and windows 10 looks great, the familiar start menu is back, but I dont think windows 10 is the right name. to review past versioning of windows, windows nt 5.0 is named windows 2000. I find this ridiculous because of common sense of releasing applications. Yes, some versions are omitted but not their names, e.g., SomeApp version 6.4.2 (named SomeApp One), didnt released SomeApp from version 6.3.x to 6.4.x (therefore, no name to be given), then there was released SomeApp version 6.5 (named SomeApp Two) the successor to SomeApp One. All I want to say is that for me, that names like One, Two, Three, and so on shouldnt be skipped, therefore it should be windows 9. It is very ridiculous for most people hearing Sony has PlayStation One, Two and Five, without Three and Four, or iPhone 4, 5 then 7 without 6.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Not as funny as Firefox having 25 versions in three years simply because they wanted to catch up to Chrome version level. That's 25 versions that would have likely been less than 5, if they had kept to their pace. What will the numbers be in 9 more years?

 

[OperationKosovo]

My wishes as follows. 1. name it back to windows 9, (only if possible before too late, but please can you do it) 2. along with hibernate, log off, switch user, sleep, restart and shut down, add FORCE SHUT DOWN 3. like WordPad, add a spreadsheet express app 4. add a new feature where I can select an option to place my start menu button at left, center or right if the taskbar is horzontal, or at top, middle, bottom if the taskbar is vertical 5. JavaScript/VBScript editor app 6. have an option to make the time be displayed on the desktop with the wallpaper as because it looked neat 7. have the mouse left and right button interchange switch button accessible right in the taskbar 8. windows explorer must have an instant command prompt access, a narrow horizontal window, just below the address bar (e.g. prompts the user by C:\Users\User1\Desktop\MyFolder>) where users has a quick access to command prompt right inside each Windows Explorer folder 9. have an option that turns on/off the running of any application (but not to end tasks in the processes list) e.g. if I want to take control of flash player, windows defender, norton internet security 2015, photoshop, starcraft ii, etc. during running applications simultaneously that may lead to processing problems, where I'll just put in the combo box and there I can freeze/resume each of them or all of them simultaneously, but I'm not sure to the developers if this is useful enough 10. an express viewer accessible right in my desktop where I can view what changes made to my registry editor and which files are removed when I have installed/uninstalled an application.

11. in desktop mode only, I can set my screen to a wider or taller resolution that overlaps the monitor size, provided that there is a hovering scrolling bar, as it hovers there is additional floating start button that is accessible along, useful when the user scrolls past the original start location, for I think it is useful when I desired to stretch my web browser wider than my screen

12. ability to tilt each window from 0 degrees to 90 degrees, clockwise or counterclockwise, that in my opinion would be just fun, useful when I want to tilt my pdf document by some angle for viewing some of its images at some angle, or even my web browser (THIS IS JUST MY DREAM OF THE NEXT WINDOWS) 13. another tool in the control panel available, that let's me press a key/keystroke to launch a specific application, which also can be configured by adding switches/parameters, e.g., -z -hangup, to launch it, or idont know if any previous windows has this

 

[Kibaruk]

@OperationKosovo you do realize most of what you are asking can be done, right? For example, just right click the taskbar and add the "address" toolbar, another example is you have the ability to set up how long the system will wait for apps to close before doing a forced shutdown, and so on so on. Most of what you are asking can be acchieved by using shortcuts and the rest using 3rd party open source (free) software.

If they added all that (YOU think might or might not be useful) others will complain about being a bloated system (Which again, can be acquired through free 3rd party software). The idea is having a core system which you personalize to your taste.

 

[Kibaruk]

@cliffordcooley @TheBigFatClown Now that the mood might be cooler, I was wrong with the idea to be sarcastic about your issues.

But it's really not like you guys are picturing, I for example have not been forced at all to use the metro interface, don't have to use fullscreen apps to navigate nor have to be stuck on the new windows menu interface to get to something. You have had a bad experience and been missinformed since it's really not necesary nor it's forced to be used.

And like any and every other OS out there, you start with something and end up customizing it to your liking, be this through adding shortcuts, to changing how apps behave, to yata yata, be it linux, mac or any windows to this day.

The thing is, W8 is not worse than 7 or XP, in fact is smoother with a big performance boost, but you get there once you realize that metro is not the front end for the system, if you are stuck on the big squared colored icons is all you will see, when it's not forced upon you anytime.

EDIT: Nor the windows store, it's not necesary nor vital to install any crap that you can see there, if you want to keep using your normal computer apps you just have to install them the "normal" way.

 

[EchtoGammut]

The ability to hit start and type the name of the app or service I want to launch was perfectly implemented in Windows 7. Windows 8 can't even find its own services consistently across different systems. I can hit start>control panel on one system and it will pop up, on another system it won't even be able to find the control panel. For some unknown reason Microsoft can't figure out how to add its own services to a permanent index.

Network service controls needs to be fixed. From VPN to Wireless, the whole network control scheme is a mess. You can do somethings from the "desktop controls" and other things from the "metro controls" be you can't do all from one.

DPI scaling isn't a nice feature, but a requirement nowadays.

That said, I like 8 once it is up and running. Sure it takes me longer to access controls and applications that are in my quick launch bar, but it is very stable and fast. That said a lot of the stuff being introduced as new and revolutionary was available in the Windows 8 beta. Microsoft seems to be making a habit creating features in beta that everyone likes, stripping them out for no reason, then releasing them after everyone complains and makes fun of them.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Now that the mood might be cooler, I was wrong with the idea to be sarcastic about your issues.

But it's really not like you guys are picturing, I for example have not been forced at all to use the metro interface, don't have to use fullscreen apps to navigate nor have to be stuck on the new windows menu interface to get to something. You have had a bad experience and been missinformed since it's really not necesary nor it's forced to be used.

Thanks for the explanation and the effective effort to be civil. The fact of the matter for me is the idea of buying an Operating System, when practically every aspect of bundled software is being replaced by third party applications. We may be focusing on the Start Menu, but that is just where I am drawing the line. Windows as an expensive bundle, has become something not worth buying. It's not worth buying because when we do, we are continuing the support of crappy bundled applications. And Metro is one crappy application I can not support, not even scaled down small enough to be placed inside the Start Menu. Especially with the loss of Aero, which no one want to acknowledge as one of my complaints.

 

[gunste]

The endless "improvements in Windows merely reflect that Microsoft wants its faithful to buy something new to keep its cash flow going. As a ling time and continuing user of XP, I merely scoff at the idea of upgrading all the time and possibly having to buy a new PC to accommodate the new Windows versions.
Continuous upgrading is for the likes who stand in line overnight for a new iPhone, when they could buy one a week later, IF they really needed it.
Windows 10 says that Windows 7 and 8 and 8.1 were partial duds??? What happened to Windows 9???

 

[cliffordcooley]

Windows 10 says that Windows 7 and 8 and 8.1 were partial duds??? What happened to Windows 9???

Windows 9x (Where x can represent nothing) died when XP was born.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

@cliffordcooley @TheBigFatClown Now that the mood might be cooler, I was wrong with the idea to be sarcastic about your issues.

But it's really not like you guys are picturing, I for example have not been forced at all to use the metro interface, don't have to use fullscreen apps to navigate nor have to be stuck on the new windows menu interface to get to something. You have had a bad experience and been missinformed since it's really not necesary nor it's forced to be used.

And like any and every other OS out there, you start with something and end up customizing it to your liking, be this through adding shortcuts, to changing how apps behave, to yata yata, be it linux, mac or any windows to this day.

The thing is, W8 is not worse than 7 or XP, in fact is smoother with a big performance boost, but you get there once you realize that metro is not the front end for the system, if you are stuck on the big squared colored icons is all you will see, when it's not forced upon you anytime.

EDIT: Nor the windows store, it's not necesary nor vital to install any crap that you can see there, if you want to keep using your normal computer apps you just have to install them the "normal" way.

Well, basically, in life, a general rule is that the majority rules. If something is popular the company will keep making it and milking it to death. If it's not popular then they will stop because no one will buy it and they will not make any money.

Windows 8 is an operating system that, by usage statistics show that it is not very popular, especially compared to the marketshare of previous operating systems.

We could say that millions love Windows 8 and that would be true(or at the very least we could say millions have "accepted it" either by choice or because they have no choice). But in the bigger scheme of things we could also say millions more hate it. The "majority" have not accepted it. That's a fact.
No one has ever said, not even me, that Windows 8 doesn't have a lot of things to like about it. And as time goes on we see that Microsoft is finally listening to it's customers. When you vote with your wallet you can make things happen. And I am proud to say that's what I have done from day 1. Along with a little help from the internet and word of mouth.

I agree that customization is very important. But that's the very thing Microsoft was trying to take away in Windows 8. Choices, customization, flexibility, power. They are backpedaling on that decision everytime a new version of Windows comes out now. So, the griping and the rejection of Windows 8 was all a necessary part of the process to get what little improvements we are seeing today.

 

[Phr3d]

I agree that customization is very important. But that's the very thing Microsoft was trying to take away in Windows 8. Choices, customization, flexibility, power. They are backpedaling on that decision everytime a new version of Windows comes out now. So, the griping and the rejection of Windows 8 was all a necessary part of the process to get what little improvements we are seeing today.

and the eradication of Staff (balmerectomy) that was arguably behind the forced re-education in the first place. My personal guess is that Win 11 will be my replacement for Win 7, LOL.

Regarding pricing, I'd be happy to pay an annual fee to get continued support for what I like and Not being forced to try and adapt to whatever MS has dreamed up this year, That is a subscription model that I think could work well.

 

[tipstir]

Well I am not negative person, but with the preview version still lacks smart cleaner. Where it installs lets you know ALMOST DONE! But no Smart Process to know the system files are clogged with junk data files left over from installation of new OS files. Come on already! Why is there a lack of automatic smart idle cleaner.

After installation..

Auto Scan Checkup on PC Status
Scan Registry for items not needed to be in there.
Scan Windows System Files
Scan Apps
Scan etc.
Clean/Fix
Scan RAM and remove excess RAM being use and release that RAM back to the System.
Scan any left over Windows Download Installers and remove them.
Scan HDD did fragment status if to high defrag the system.
Scan MFT
Scan and Defrag Registry Size.

Apps like JetClean Pro, Wise Cleaner, UnCleaner and Ultra Defrag should be incorporated in all versions of the OS or it's features you be in there. Really need a Smarter OS to know when the system is starting to get sluggish in performance.

 

[dob_1]

[QUOTE="Arris, post: 1431809, member: 58" ... Windows 8 has been demonized. Ignore Metro and it's just a more polished Win 7. ...[/QUOTE]
I don't think so. My wife has been upgrading her laptops between my desktops, so she's had Vista, and now, Windows 8.1, whereas I've had XP and 7. Windows 8's file management tool runs in the same confusing, complicated way that Vista's did, and Windows 7 mostly fixed. The more I have helped her to set up her Windows 8 machine the more I felt it was like the Vista structure and pattern and not like Windows 7! I must admit I'm wondering if the same development team did Windows 8 that did Vista, with a different team doing Win 7! It seems they hardly learned any lessons at all from the Vista debarcle! Many of my other gripes are mentioned here, but few seem to have picked up on the poor file management utility - which you can replace for external file operations, but the default one is still pulled up through the 'open' and 'save' (etc) dialog boxes within programs.

 

[Arris]

I don't think so. My wife has been upgrading her laptops between my desktops, so she's had Vista, and now, Windows 8.1, whereas I've had XP and 7. Windows 8's file management tool runs in the same confusing, complicated way that Vista's did, and Windows 7 mostly fixed. The more I have helped her to set up her Windows 8 machine the more I felt it was like the Vista structure and pattern and not like Windows 7! I must admit I'm wondering if the same development team did Windows 8 that did Vista, with a different team doing Win 7! It seems they hardly learned any lessons at all from the Vista debarcle! Many of my other gripes are mentioned here, but few seem to have picked up on the poor file management utility - which you can replace for external file operations, but the default one is still pulled up through the 'open' and 'save' (etc) dialog boxes within programs.

I use windows explorer from my toolbar. I use Xp and Win 7 at work, and have 3 Win 8.1 devices at home. I've suffered Vista in the past but not for long enough to be able to ascertain the similarity between it's File Manager and Windows 8.1 one. I'll have a look at it tonight but not sure exactly what you are complaining about by stating it is "poor". Comparing XP file explorer and Win 7, they seem to have the same menu options, with 7 having an improved hierarchical tree structure display and general UI and grouping options over the XP one.

Update: As far as I can see the File Manager is same as the Win 7 but with the horrid ribbon UI.

 

[NotParker]

Have they apologized for getting rid of WinFile yet?

Is there a Winfile 10?

If not Microsoft are *****s.

 

[cliffordcooley]

What the hell is WinFile?

Edit:
Now that I know, let me change this to sarcasm, since I've never used Windows Explorer for my file management.