Unfortunately, (at least with your line of reasoning), "ignorance of the law, is no excuse or justification for a crime committed,.
Since I don't live in a cave somewhere in the mountains of Afghanistan, and have seen the cellphone video as many times as you have, I would appreciate if you wouldn;t lecture me about the whole sordid affair, and take this"
What? How exactly are the police supposed to verify if there is or isn't a gunman inside a given premises if not by showing up to the address and cautiously sending officers inside?
Innocent until proven guilty. A phone call from some anonymous person is not proof. You don't terrorize people, until after you have satisfied your own suspicions.
You're deranged. The cops showing up IS the investigation. You still haven't clarified what actual tangible actions you propose they ought to do between receiving a 911 call and actually showing up at the address? Are the supposed to canvass all of the neighbors to see if they've noticed a disturbance? Do they send an unarmed social worker to the door of the house to see if they can sit down and have a cuppa with the occupants and figure out what's going on?
No! You're deranged for defending their strong armed tactics. When they know nothing but the word of a single call in. Their arrogance and impatience is the whole problem in these situations.
Oh, ok, well hopefully if, god forbid, something terrible happens to your family and a gunman breaks into your house and murders one of your loved ones, the cops DONT employ your absurd suggestion and they DO make their way inside to promptly save your infantile arse...
You still haven't actually explained what they should do instead.
Well stated, but a bit terse. I have been to many countries and even lived them (2 years in Spain when Franco ran the country). One huge difference between the other countries and the US is most other countries have a homogeneous population (although that is beginning to change to a degree). They have centuries of history and, over time, have developed "group think". Just imagine if you put a large group of British, Germans, French, Italians, etc. from the general population in one isolated European location and told them they all have to get along and work together and find a common language so they can communicate with each other, it would be amusing to watch. Its possible it would work better today than, say, 40-50 years ago, but probably not by much. Back when I worked for an international company, we would usually hold meetings in Paris as a central point for them. It was difficult to get a common agreement as each was only interested in its own countries benefit. Plus we would get blowback from the other countries "Why so often in Paris?". From what I read in the news (coming from European news outlets), while some of the governments have readily accepted Middle Easterners, the general European population has not.
First they should establish there is in fact danger. Not knowing for sure and busting someones door down, Swat is creating danger. Becoming that which they work to prevent.
To some extent yes, it is difficult to judge from the outside, but in some areas it's quite noticeable, like the comment below:
Just because the American police is incompetent, doesn't meant that there aren't other reasonable solutions.
That's an argument currently being debated in the US since many police departments have had military equipment donated to them by the US Government. As an example, as I understand it, a SWAT team was sent after a group of Monks who had accidentally overstayed their Visa https://www.ketv.com/article/monks-arrested-in-swat-team-action/7601220
Sorry, but I disagree with your 100% gun control argument. Someone with a gun, or even many guns, is only going to make a situation like this worse by far, especially considering that a SWAT team is almost certainly far better armed, and has had a lot of training.
I never said that they should not face consequences, Captain. That, respectfully, is your interpretation of what I said. I just said that the delinquents had no f'ing clue of the consequences, not to mention that they obviously had no understanding of right or wrong for whatever reason, and their sense of value is obviously misplaced.
Have you had "active shooter training"?? Because if you have had it, in such training you are informed that YOU not being a perp could get you killed, if you happen to be in a building while it is being searched for the real perp and you just happen to encounter a police officer that happens to think, for some reason, that you are the perp.
PREACH IT FROM THE MOUNTAIN TOPS!Well, the death penalty does actually stop THAT person from doing it again. The problem is, the appeals process is so cumbersome and lengthy, you need bean counters for figure out if it's just cheaper to keep them for the rest of their lives. The costs from which almost certainly runs into hundreds of thousands of dollars.
IMHO, my solution is more elegant. "Death row", I believe is solitary confinement. So, why not stick another another equally violent psychopath into the cell, and let nature take its course. I figure the guards don'y really have to push the injured to the prison infirmary as fast as they can.
Here in the US we have an epidemic of 2nd & 3rd generation sociopaths, who kill without remorse or regret, over the stupidest arguments. (As an example, there were 36 shootings oveer last weekend alone, and maybe 2 or more fatalities),
IMO, instead of the parents pissing and moaning to the authorities to remediate the problem, old school justice should prevail, and the parents take responsibly for, and be held accountable for the crimes of their "children".
At the rate this country is going, breeding licenses, mandatory abortions, and sterilizations wouldn't be bad ideas either.
Last week, we had a murder over the sale of a "ghost gun". Hey, maybe the system is working after all.
I live in "da hood", and I firmly believe, we should pump as many guns into it as the market will bear.
Philly has had 300 gun murders thus far this year, 90% of which are black on black events.It occurs to to, that perhaps that the BLM crew should take stock of, and remediate the problems within its ranks, instead of selling T-shirts, while looting and burning down businesses, over some lifelong, useless, felon like George Floyd. Yes, officer Chauvin was guilty of murder. He should have been charged as such, and that have been the end of it.
As for the whole "driving while black" nonsense, how many of those stops were of people with no insurance, non registration, suspended drivers licenses, warrants for their arrest, and what have you.
BTW, George Floyd's arrest, addiction, and incarceration records are all available online. Is this turd really who you want as "your poster boy"?
Well, you actually have a really good idea.
www.pittsburghcriminalattorney.com
Unfortunately, it isn't. See my post #41 above.
